RE: icmp [7:66827]

2003-04-04 Thread Martin J.
Once i heard, that a ping from a Cisco Box is not the same like a ping from
a Windows PC.
One is icmp the other is udp.

Can anyone confirm? and, where is udp , where is icmp.

One solution to make it all clear is to take a sniffer - or i could search
my CIT Course stuff this weekend ;-)

Martin


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Re: icmp [7:66827]

2003-04-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just ran a ping on my Linux while doing a tcpdump. It still uses icmp,
both with a flood and without. I ran from a windows box and the same. The
basic windows ping command won't let you flood (the -f is for
fragmentation). I think your friend is wrong. However, he/she might be
confusing pings for traceroutes. In window tracert will use ICMP traffic,
but on a unix box it will use UDP traffic.






   

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Hi All

My understanding of ping is that it uses icmp

however, a frend of mine told me that in a ping flood test,ping uses udp
because there is no need for acknowledgment

My understanding is icmp falls under the internetwork layer in DOD model
and
so when a ping command is executed,instead of using UDP,IP will use arp to
find the hardware address of the gateway (if the destination host is on
another network)

so who is right ?




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Re: icmp [7:66827]

2003-04-04 Thread Vijay Anand
Ping and traceroute are two very useful functions for managing
   networks.  Ping is typically used to determine if a path exists
   between two hosts while traceroute shows an actual path.  Ping is
   usually implemented using the Internet Control Message Protocol
   (ICMP) "ECHO" facility.  It is also possible to implement a ping
   capability using alternate methods, some of which are:

   o   Using the UDP echo port (7), if supported.

   This is defined by RFC 862 [2].

   o   Timing an SNMP query.

   o   Timing a TCP connect attempt.


 
 
 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  wrote:I just ran a ping on my Linux while doing
a tcpdump. It still uses icmp,
both with a flood and without. I ran from a windows box and the same. The
basic windows ping command won't let you flood (the -f is for
fragmentation). I think your friend is wrong. However, he/she might be
confusing pings for traceroutes. In window tracert will use ICMP traffic,
but on a unix box it will use UDP traffic.







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Hi All

My understanding of ping is that it uses icmp

however, a frend of mine told me that in a ping flood test,ping uses udp
because there is no need for acknowledgment

My understanding is icmp falls under the internetwork layer in DOD model
and
so when a ping command is executed,instead of using UDP,IP will use arp to
find the hardware address of the gateway (if the destination host is on
another network)

so who is right ?
VijayAnand C.D, Bca, CCNA, CCNP
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