Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
> 
> At 3:52 PM +0000 6/26/03, n rf wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >Look, first of all, I'm obviously not endorsing that anybody
> with x years of
> >experience are automatically handed a ccie number.  They would
> still have to
> >pass the test just like anybody else.
> >
> >Therefore the idea is simple.  You use a minimum number of
> years of
> >experience to eliminate the labrats.  So instead, you get
> router-caressers
> >(hmmm, sounds like some people enjoy networking a little too
> much).

Is this what you had in mind? :-)

http://unixsex.com/netadmin/noclust/routergirl.jpg

Priscilla


> 
> I cite that noted networking authority, Leslie Nielsen, in his 
> autobiography.  He describes a screen test in which he was
> directed
> to cross the room and turn on a radio.
> 
> Walking to the instrument, he reached out and stroked it
> softly,
> crooning "you're a pretty cute radio."
> 
> >You
> >then eliminate those guys with the test itself - if that
> highly experienced
> >person didn't actually learn how to do all those things you
> mentioned, then
> >it's unlikely that he would pass the test.
> >
> >Now obviously, this is imperfect.  You will still have some
> guys who carress
> >routers (man, that just sounds disgusting)
> 
> In that case, nrf, I suggest you do not meditate deeply on the 
> functionality of the Physical Layer, whose scope includes male, 
> female, and gender-bender connectors.
> 
> >
> >
> >And you ask about the integrity of the background check
> procedure.  Well, I
> >am proposing using the same procedure that some employers
> today use for
> >their job candidates, where they hire companies to fact-check
> your resume.
> 
> I don't remember the specifics, but I believe Nortel did
> something
> like this for your case study writeups for the Architect 
> certification. Might have been a letter, might have been spot 
> checking.
> 
> One of the issues that I keep coming back to is that highly
> verified
> certifications, be it a professional engineer, medical
> certification,
> etc., which may use oral exams, peer-reviewed documents, etc.,
> tend
> not to be highly scalable or lend themselves to scaling the way
> it
> would seem Cisco would like.
> 
> Of course, this is rough for the people that worked on
> sensitive or
> classified networks (I can tell you what the candidate built,
> but
> then I'll have to kill you).
> 
> Mind you, I have a friend that was updating the cabling in the 
> Pentagon, who still claims she put a test set on a random wire
> and
> got the following telegraph message:
> 
>          Many Indians. Send help.
> 
>                   Custer
> 
> :-)
> 
> Actually, not so :-), when we have the reality that a command
> post
> heard 30-odd successive SOS messages, interspersed with "we are
> being
> boarded", from the USS Pueblo, and dismissed it as "operator
> chatter".
> 
> 




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