Re: thanks people [7:10974]
Too bad it is forgotten 7/4/2001 9:19:47 AM, "hal9001" wrote: >Ah! One of the forgotten and ancient arts. DOS not failing that is. > >Karl > >- Original Message - >From: "Circusnuts" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 2:52 PM >Subject: Re: thanks people [7:10974] > > >> You failed a DOS test >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jennifer Cribbs" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM >> Subject: thanks people [7:10974] >> >> >> > Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan >on >> > testing again in a week or so hopefully. >> > >> > >> > Failing a test is just not fun... >> > >> > Jenn >> > Have a great day!! >> > Jennifer Have a great day!! Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=11016&t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
I didn't actually fail dos, but I failed the a+os with a 603. But it feels like I failed a dos test. As I started digging through what I could remember on the test, I got hung up on a couple of issues and mainly io.sys and msdos.sys and what was actually going on in the boot process. Jon Krabbenschmidt has given me a ton of information concerning the boot process and went out of his way to help meThanks Jon...! And Dom.Stocqueler, I appologize for being a little testy,dkjhelklsjflkjal;skj...it happens to me on occasion and usually when I am deeply concentrating on an issue. My sense of humor goes byby === And since I don't care if I get flamed anymore for being non cisco or having a non cisco comment and already having the answer to my question, I will post my original mail that Jon helped me with plus the answer he gave me and a couple of others alsoIt might refresh everyone's memory on something noone really thinks about much anymore, but I just find it so interesting.Maybe it will help someone else. Thank you to the smart people on this site. There were a couple of other very good answers also, but these two cover the gist of what I wanted to know. Jenn === My question: --- I just recently failed my a+ os test and so I am digging again through my book. Now just so you will know the book I am using is "course technology" and is entitled "Enhanced a+guide to Managing and Maintaing Your PC". I also have the a+ book by Michael Myers, but it is not the book I am referring to in this particular scenerio/question. What I am doing is looking up a few specific questions I was unsure of on my test and sometimes I get a little carried away and get too deep which is probable the case here, but here goes. One of the questions was a t/f question and it read: The IO.sys file executes the config.sys. That seems very simple and so I put true for my answer and believed it to be true, but i was not absolutely sure of this, so I started reading. The other day after the test, in reading about the boot process, it says that when the 'dos operating system' is loaded, when the io.sys is finished it turns control over to the msdos.sys and that there is a program 'within the msdos.sys' that executes the config.sys file. The key words I am seeing here is the words"within the msdos.sys". Then a couple of pages on further in the book, it is discussing the 95 operating sys and the boot process. It said that io.sys executes the config.sys when booting. Does this mean that the initial boot process is different depending on whether you are booting up dos or a gui/windows type environment? If that is so, when loading dos os, what is the name of the program within msdos.sys that executes the config.sys file? It didn't say. In case you have this book, the first portion is on page 73 in the second paragraph under step 3. This is where it discusses the program with the msdos.sys that exe's the config.sys file. On os-95, this is on page 77, step 5. And if you don't have the book, this is specifically what it says: On page 73 and is referring to dos here: "The IO.sys file contains more bios sw. MSDOS.sys contains sw to manage files, run applications sw, and interface with hw. Once these two files are loaded into memory, the boot record program is no longer needed, and control turns to a 'program' stored in msdos.sys. This program looks on the hard drive for a file named CONFIG.sys. CONFIG.sys is the first os file that you, as a user, can change. After config.sys is exectuted, MSDOS.sys looks for another dos file named command.com. This file has three parts: more code to manage i/o, programs for internal dos commands, such as copy and dir, and a short program that looks for another file name AUTOEXEC.bat." Now, is very close to specifically says that when loading dos os that the i/o.sys does not execute the config.sys. It says that a program within msdos.sys does that. Then on page 77 in referring to 95, it says: step 5: Again, just as with dos, io.sys loads. In fact io.sys is areally a small core dos module. io.sys looks for a config.sys file, and if found, the config.sys file executes. step 6: after config.sys is complete, io.sys looks for msdos.sys. The role of msdos.sys in 95 is much different from its role in dos. = My comments on this. If for dos, the msdos.sys has an internal program that executes config.sys and in windows, the io.sys executes the config.sys, how can you answer a question with a true or false answer if the real answer is.it depends on the operating sys being loaded.? correct or not? So now, my question is what is the name of the program in msdos.sys that actually does the executing of the config.sys? Opinions..comments... Sorry this is so long and I also realize this is probably not pertinent to the test in a real sense but this is driving me nuts as I can't find t
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
I guess it means being "denied of passing". Jenn 7/4/2001 9:37:46 AM, "Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote: >>You failed a DOS test > >Does failing DOS mean being denied service or not being denied service? > >Or was it the other kind of DOS? > >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Jennifer Cribbs" >>To: >>Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM >>Subject: thanks people [7:10974] >> >> >>> Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan >on >>> testing again in a week or so hopefully. >>> >>> >>> Failing a test is just not fun... >>> >>> Jenn >>> Have a great day!! >> > Jennifer Have a great day!! Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=11014&t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: thanks people [7:10974]
Actually we are talking about "Dirty Operating System" originally called QDOS, "Quick and Dirty Operating System" before Tim Patterson sold the rights to Gates and Allen. Jon -Original Message- From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: thanks people [7:10974] I think we are talking about Disk Operating System... - Original Message - From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: Re: thanks people [7:10974] > >You failed a DOS test > > Does failing DOS mean being denied service or not being denied service? > > Or was it the other kind of DOS? > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Jennifer Cribbs" > >To: > >Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM > >Subject: thanks people [7:10974] > > > > > >> Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan > on > >> testing again in a week or so hopefully. > >> > >> > >> Failing a test is just not fun... > >> > >> Jenn > >> Have a great day!! > > > Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=11013&t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
I think we are talking about Disk Operating System... - Original Message - From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: Re: thanks people [7:10974] > >You failed a DOS test > > Does failing DOS mean being denied service or not being denied service? > > Or was it the other kind of DOS? > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Jennifer Cribbs" > >To: > >Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM > >Subject: thanks people [7:10974] > > > > > >> Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan > on > >> testing again in a week or so hopefully. > >> > >> > >> Failing a test is just not fun... > >> > >> Jenn > >> Have a great day!! > > > Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10990&t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
>You failed a DOS test Does failing DOS mean being denied service or not being denied service? Or was it the other kind of DOS? > >- Original Message - >From: "Jennifer Cribbs" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM >Subject: thanks people [7:10974] > > >> Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan on >> testing again in a week or so hopefully. >> >> >> Failing a test is just not fun... >> >> Jenn >> Have a great day!! > > Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10988&t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
Ah! One of the forgotten and ancient arts. DOS not failing that is. Karl - Original Message - From: "Circusnuts" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: Re: thanks people [7:10974] > You failed a DOS test > > - Original Message - > From: "Jennifer Cribbs" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM > Subject: thanks people [7:10974] > > > > Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan on > > testing again in a week or so hopefully. > > > > > > Failing a test is just not fun... > > > > Jenn > > Have a great day!! > > Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10987&t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thanks people [7:10974]
You failed a DOS test - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Cribbs" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: thanks people [7:10974] > Thanks to everyone to helped me on dos. It is much appreciated. I plan on > testing again in a week or so hopefully. > > > Failing a test is just not fun... > > Jenn > Have a great day!! > Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10983&t=10974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
