Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
Just to update this thread with my CCDP recert story. Today I surprisingly passed the exam. I scheduled the exam as a recce (to just see it) and guage where I was for further study. I had gone once through the Boson CCDP practice but I felt I needed to see the real thing since I had problems with the CCNP recert. So what I'm saying is that without much specific CCDP study, I passed with 829, pass is 768. With more study a higher mark probably could have been had - but, it's over now! Most of the previous comments on the exam are accurate except Priscilla mentioned that there wasn't any BGP. I had at least 6 BGP questions - which wasn't a problem with my study from the CCNP recert. The material is OLD. Many design ideas would not be considered today. Anyway, I'm good for both CCNP/CCDP for another 3 years. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:45 PM Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] jeff sicuranza wrote: There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one of old questions from the routing pool. I think the AppleTalk questions (if you get any) in the CCNP recert are from the Support exam which hasn't been updated much. As for the 700 series nothing like that on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer exams with ios simulation for hands on testing. It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk. Indeed, the CCDP recert exam is ancient, making you wonder what the point is. It can't be to show that the candidate is keeping up with new stuff!? ;-) I almost wonder if it's some sort of mistake. CCNP isn't quite so ancient, except for the BCRAN part which is still ancient. I did get some 700 questions. But Routing and Switching were updated and did give Cisco proof that I was keeping up with new Cisco requirements. Routing included BGP and IS-IS, for example, which weren't on the test 3 years ago. One would think it would be easy to use the same pool of questions for CCDP, but they don't. No BGP or IS-IS for example. SNA and StrataCom though! Oh boy! :-) Priscilla Good luck.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70644t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
You would think a notice would go out but I guess they missed it. I mean how many times over the last three years since we obtained our certs did we get update notices on the program plus reminders that our certs were expiring? I received lots of cert junk mail from Cisco over that period. What bugged me the most was the DP and the invalid info on CCO in respect to the exam topics. According to CCO for np and dp recert everything is an updated exam except for the CID. Oh well at least we have another 3 years for them to catch up. The newer topics and exam info for the recently updated np/dp looks really good, more voice and qos and content stuff. I think these update exam topics plus the added hands on simulation difficulty level of the exams will help keep the NP/DP somewhat relevant. Congrats btw memory lane you said it lol. Regards.. -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:26 PM To: jsicuran; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] my first attempt was 13 May and my successful attempt was 3 June (not mentioning what was in between) Updated CCNP recert. the CCNP recert is a new exam - wouldn't a notice go out about a new exam? Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: jsicuran To: Kevin Wigle ; Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:57 AM Subject: RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] Wow, that is weird, your NP exam sounded like the old DP recert exam I just had. One gent on the Cisco forum had the NP recert that was updated, before me and that's what I got, so I am presuming you should get the updated exam as well. How long ago did you take your NP recert exam maybe they just switched to the newer stuff in the last couple of weeks. That is weird. Memory lane is right. Good luck.. /JS -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:50 PM To: jeff sicuranza; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] well... my experience is a bit different. As I said in a previous post I've taken this exam a few times. I encountered both Appletalk and the 700 Router on the NP recert and not just one question. I think the question pool is huge on this exam. Consider what it has to cover. The Road Goes Ever On (Chuck) just posted that he had a great walk down memory lane. I would assume he was hinting that the topics he saw were a bit dated. Of course, I probably shouldn't assume... Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: jeff sicuranza To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one of old questions from the routing pool. As for the 700 series nothing like that on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer exams with ios simulation for hands on testing. It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk. Good luck.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70195t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
mailsub1 wrote: Priscilla wrote: One would think it would be easy to use the same pool of questions for CCDP, but they don't. No BGP or IS-IS for example. SNA and StrataCom though! Oh boy! :-) I had quite a few BGP questions in my CCDP-recert exam on Monday. Oops. Yes, you're right. CCDP does cover BGP. It was IS-IS that I was thinking of. It doesn't cover that. Also, it doesn't cover BGP to the extent that it is covered in CCNP. CCDP seems to be drawing from a couple generations back of Routing questions. Priscilla I am really happy that I am now certified for another 3 years and can, according to Cisco, design a high performance SNA/Appletalk/IPX token-ring network, probably using only ATM switches from StrataCom and 700 and 1600 series routers ;) Mark. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70213t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
Wow, that is weird, your NP exam sounded like the old DP recert exam I just had. One gent on the Cisco forum had the NP recert that was updated, before me and that's what I got, so I am presuming you should get the updated exam as well. How long ago did you take your NP recert exam maybe they just switched to the newer stuff in the last couple of weeks. That is weird. Memory lane is right. Good luck.. /JS -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:50 PM To: jeff sicuranza; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] well... my experience is a bit different. As I said in a previous post I've taken this exam a few times. I encountered both Appletalk and the 700 Router on the NP recert and not just one question. I think the question pool is huge on this exam. Consider what it has to cover. The Road Goes Ever On (Chuck) just posted that he had a great walk down memory lane. I would assume he was hinting that the topics he saw were a bit dated. Of course, I probably shouldn't assume... Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: jeff sicuranza To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one of old questions from the routing pool. As for the 700 series nothing like that on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer exams with ios simulation for hands on testing. It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk. Good luck.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70131t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
my first attempt was 13 May and my successful attempt was 3 June (not mentioning what was in between) Updated CCNP recert. the CCNP recert is a new exam - wouldn't a notice go out about a new exam? Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: jsicuran To: Kevin Wigle ; Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:57 AM Subject: RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] Wow, that is weird, your NP exam sounded like the old DP recert exam I just had. One gent on the Cisco forum had the NP recert that was updated, before me and that's what I got, so I am presuming you should get the updated exam as well. How long ago did you take your NP recert exam maybe they just switched to the newer stuff in the last couple of weeks. That is weird. Memory lane is right. Good luck.. /JS -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:50 PM To: jeff sicuranza; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] well... my experience is a bit different. As I said in a previous post I've taken this exam a few times. I encountered both Appletalk and the 700 Router on the NP recert and not just one question. I think the question pool is huge on this exam. Consider what it has to cover. The Road Goes Ever On (Chuck) just posted that he had a great walk down memory lane. I would assume he was hinting that the topics he saw were a bit dated. Of course, I probably shouldn't assume... Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: jeff sicuranza To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one of old questions from the routing pool. As for the 700 series nothing like that on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer exams with ios simulation for hands on testing. It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk. Good luck.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70161t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one of old questions from the routing pool. As for the 700 series nothing like that on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer exams with ios simulation for hands on testing. It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk. Good luck.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70071t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
jeff sicuranza wrote: There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one of old questions from the routing pool. I think the AppleTalk questions (if you get any) in the CCNP recert are from the Support exam which hasn't been updated much. As for the 700 series nothing like that on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer exams with ios simulation for hands on testing. It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk. Indeed, the CCDP recert exam is ancient, making you wonder what the point is. It can't be to show that the candidate is keeping up with new stuff!? ;-) I almost wonder if it's some sort of mistake. CCNP isn't quite so ancient, except for the BCRAN part which is still ancient. I did get some 700 questions. But Routing and Switching were updated and did give Cisco proof that I was keeping up with new Cisco requirements. Routing included BGP and IS-IS, for example, which weren't on the test 3 years ago. One would think it would be easy to use the same pool of questions for CCDP, but they don't. No BGP or IS-IS for example. SNA and StrataCom though! Oh boy! :-) Priscilla Good luck.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70100t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
well... my experience is a bit different. As I said in a previous post I've taken this exam a few times. I encountered both Appletalk and the 700 Router on the NP recert and not just one question. I think the question pool is huge on this exam. Consider what it has to cover. The Road Goes Ever On (Chuck) just posted that he had a great walk down memory lane. I would assume he was hinting that the topics he saw were a bit dated. Of course, I probably shouldn't assume... Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: jeff sicuranza To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one of old questions from the routing pool. As for the 700 series nothing like that on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer exams with ios simulation for hands on testing. It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk. Good luck.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70102t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] jeff sicuranza wrote: There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one of old questions from the routing pool. I think the AppleTalk questions (if you get any) in the CCNP recert are from the Support exam which hasn't been updated much. What's to update in troubleshooting? There are only so many things that could be wrong, and only so many places those wrong things can occur, no matter what the protocol or topology. The good news is that test takers apparently are not required to know how to read sniffer traces ;- As for the 700 series nothing like that on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer exams with ios simulation for hands on testing. It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk. Indeed, the CCDP recert exam is ancient, making you wonder what the point is. It can't be to show that the candidate is keeping up with new stuff!? ;-) I almost wonder if it's some sort of mistake. vision, policy, archtecture. definitely not the stuff of certification construction. CCNP isn't quite so ancient, except for the BCRAN part which is still ancient. I did get some 700 questions. But Routing and Switching were updated and did give Cisco proof that I was keeping up with new Cisco requirements. Routing included BGP and IS-IS, for example, which weren't on the test 3 years ago. One would think it would be easy to use the same pool of questions for CCDP, but they don't. No BGP or IS-IS for example. SNA and StrataCom though! Oh boy! :-) Priscilla Good luck.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70111t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
Priscilla wrote: One would think it would be easy to use the same pool of questions for CCDP, but they don't. No BGP or IS-IS for example. SNA and StrataCom though! Oh boy! :-) I had quite a few BGP questions in my CCDP-recert exam on Monday. I am really happy that I am now certified for another 3 years and can, according to Cisco, design a high performance SNA/Appletalk/IPX token-ring network, probably using only ATM switches from StrataCom and 700 and 1600 series routers ;) Mark. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70118t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
Congratulations! I just passed today (first time VERY lucky ;), and I have to agree that it is a crazy exam. A couple of the questions were so badly worded that I didn't understand them. I just thought that I'd add a few extra pointers for the unlucky ones who still have to take the exam. There are some newer questions (e.g. quite a few on BGP), although nothing on IS-IS. However, a lot of the questions are very old - for example when did you last hear of Stratacom or configured a 700 series router (or for that matter used appletalk)! This was probably the worst Cisco exam EVER, and I just hope it is better in 3 years time. Now I just have to take CSI for my CCSP before my summer vacation. Good luck! Mark. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeff sicuranza Sent: 31. mam 2003 06:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] Well fellas I passed the CCDP recert today. Man what a messed up test. The exam objectives on CCO(for all tests) are not what are on this exam. This exam is basically version 1 Routing, Switching, Remote access and CID version 1 from 3-4 years ago. I mean I did have some MLS but I had x25, smds, atm aal3-4 nonsense, desktop protocol issues, lan manager, old CID design questions that did not make sense, type in questions(which is to be expected) and old hardware that is probably not even supported anymore, like 700s and 1600s. I made many comments during the exam that these questions are no longer relevant especially for a CCDP update recert. It was all old stuff. I mean old stuff that was not too relevant then, specific 1600s and 700s issues, come on now.. I studied based on the info. from the CCO site, so for Routing, Switching and Remote access for the CCNP recert., which was updated, but it was my experience that carried me on this one. I did go over my old Sybex and Cisco Press ver. 1 CID books this week just in case, so that helped too. I thought halfway through I was failing for all of the older 700/1600, desktop protocols and x25/atm crap was driving me nuts. Since I have been in computer technology since 84 I was able to pass. A lot of the questions were hands on fill in the blank types so that helped me also. Funny though, I did better on this exam(averaging in the 80% range for every topic except CID) and got in the high 800s than I did on the CCNP recert.(Considering the CCO CCNP topics matched the exam). I only studied a week and a half for both and took them two days apart. What I learned in the CCNP recert exam, that I posted earlier here, did not apply on the CCDP recert. exam to my dismay so I was bummed out during the exam. In this case my old hands on experience rules. So, for those of you fellas preparing for the CCDP recert. your old books(even version 1 CCDP stuff) is fine. Now to decide if I want to take a second stab at my ccie lab seat. Good luck to all /JS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70017t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
Yes, the CCDP recert exam is old and messed up. The CCNP recert exam was updated for content over the last three years so it has bgp, hands on simulation and ISIS. IT will get better and tougher if the CCNP recert is any hint. Look at the current changes to the DP program. It will be more difficult if you have to recert in three years... Congrats also, good luck on the CSI.. /JS -Original Message- From: mailsub1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:00 PM To: 'jeff sicuranza'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] Congratulations! I just passed today (first time VERY lucky ;), and I have to agree that it is a crazy exam. A couple of the questions were so badly worded that I didn't understand them. I just thought that I'd add a few extra pointers for the unlucky ones who still have to take the exam. There are some newer questions (e.g. quite a few on BGP), although nothing on IS-IS. However, a lot of the questions are very old - for example when did you last hear of Stratacom or configured a 700 series router (or for that matter used appletalk)! This was probably the worst Cisco exam EVER, and I just hope it is better in 3 years time. Now I just have to take CSI for my CCSP before my summer vacation. Good luck! Mark. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeff sicuranza Sent: 31. mam 2003 06:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] Well fellas I passed the CCDP recert today. Man what a messed up test. The exam objectives on CCO(for all tests) are not what are on this exam. This exam is basically version 1 Routing, Switching, Remote access and CID version 1 from 3-4 years ago. I mean I did have some MLS but I had x25, smds, atm aal3-4 nonsense, desktop protocol issues, lan manager, old CID design questions that did not make sense, type in questions(which is to be expected) and old hardware that is probably not even supported anymore, like 700s and 1600s. I made many comments during the exam that these questions are no longer relevant especially for a CCDP update recert. It was all old stuff. I mean old stuff that was not too relevant then, specific 1600s and 700s issues, come on now.. I studied based on the info. from the CCO site, so for Routing, Switching and Remote access for the CCNP recert., which was updated, but it was my experience that carried me on this one. I did go over my old Sybex and Cisco Press ver. 1 CID books this week just in case, so that helped too. I thought halfway through I was failing for all of the older 700/1600, desktop protocols and x25/atm crap was driving me nuts. Since I have been in computer technology since 84 I was able to pass. A lot of the questions were hands on fill in the blank types so that helped me also. Funny though, I did better on this exam(averaging in the 80% range for every topic except CID) and got in the high 800s than I did on the CCNP recert.(Considering the CCO CCNP topics matched the exam). I only studied a week and a half for both and took them two days apart. What I learned in the CCNP recert exam, that I posted earlier here, did not apply on the CCDP recert. exam to my dismay so I was bummed out during the exam. In this case my old hands on experience rules. So, for those of you fellas preparing for the CCDP recert. your old books(even version 1 CCDP stuff) is fine. Now to decide if I want to take a second stab at my ccie lab seat. Good luck to all /JS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70018t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
There are also Appletalk and 700 routers on the CCNP re-cert. I decided to review the 700 documentation on CCO. The 700 is not listed on the router list. Fortunately searching on the 700 brought me to the right docs, although most of the links say, end of sale, etc. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: mailsub1 To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] Congratulations! I just passed today (first time VERY lucky ;), and I have to agree that it is a crazy exam. A couple of the questions were so badly worded that I didn't understand them. I just thought that I'd add a few extra pointers for the unlucky ones who still have to take the exam. There are some newer questions (e.g. quite a few on BGP), although nothing on IS-IS. However, a lot of the questions are very old - for example when did you last hear of Stratacom or configured a 700 series router (or for that matter used appletalk)! This was probably the worst Cisco exam EVER, and I just hope it is better in 3 years time. Now I just have to take CSI for my CCSP before my summer vacation. Good luck! Mark. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeff sicuranza Sent: 31. mam 2003 06:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDP Recertification [7:69911] Well fellas I passed the CCDP recert today. Man what a messed up test. The exam objectives on CCO(for all tests) are not what are on this exam. This exam is basically version 1 Routing, Switching, Remote access and CID version 1 from 3-4 years ago. I mean I did have some MLS but I had x25, smds, atm aal3-4 nonsense, desktop protocol issues, lan manager, old CID design questions that did not make sense, type in questions(which is to be expected) and old hardware that is probably not even supported anymore, like 700s and 1600s. I made many comments during the exam that these questions are no longer relevant especially for a CCDP update recert. It was all old stuff. I mean old stuff that was not too relevant then, specific 1600s and 700s issues, come on now.. I studied based on the info. from the CCO site, so for Routing, Switching and Remote access for the CCNP recert., which was updated, but it was my experience that carried me on this one. I did go over my old Sybex and Cisco Press ver. 1 CID books this week just in case, so that helped too. I thought halfway through I was failing for all of the older 700/1600, desktop protocols and x25/atm crap was driving me nuts. Since I have been in computer technology since 84 I was able to pass. A lot of the questions were hands on fill in the blank types so that helped me also. Funny though, I did better on this exam(averaging in the 80% range for every topic except CID) and got in the high 800s than I did on the CCNP recert.(Considering the CCO CCNP topics matched the exam). I only studied a week and a half for both and took them two days apart. What I learned in the CCNP recert exam, that I posted earlier here, did not apply on the CCDP recert. exam to my dismay so I was bummed out during the exam. In this case my old hands on experience rules. So, for those of you fellas preparing for the CCDP recert. your old books(even version 1 CCDP stuff) is fine. Now to decide if I want to take a second stab at my ccie lab seat. Good luck to all /JS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70031t=69911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
