Re: Simulate ATM [7:4981]

2001-05-18 Thread Circusnuts

I've never done ATM back to back.  You will obviously lose the capabilities
to do Point to Multipoint & PVC discovery.  PVC discovery just sounds to
tempting/ important, not expect to see it on the CCIE :o)  The new Cisco ATM
book is really outdated when it comes to Cisco equipment.  As far as I know,
treat ATM as you would ISDN or Frame.  The CCIE lab should only require it
as another access method.

Phil



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From: Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown) 
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> Phil,
> I'm a novice when it comes to ATM, so does it mean I won't be able to
> practice PVC's if I just connect the two ATM interfaces on my 4500
> back-to-back? What would I be able to do or not do if I don't have an ATM
> switch in between the routers?
> Unfortunately, the ATM book by CiscoPress has all the lab configurations
> outfitted with 9 ATM-capable routers, so I don't know where else to look
for
> sample configurations for a home lab environment.
> Thanks for your input on this.
> Elmer
>
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>
> Couple of UNI's (2600, 3600, 4500, or 4700) with ATM interfaces and an NNI
> ATM switch to build your PVC's & mapping  (LS100, FORE LE100 or 155,
LS1010,
> Nortel, etc.,etc.).  It's probably going to be the most expensive part of
> your lab.
>
> Phil
>
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> From: Rashid Lohiya
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> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:28 AM
> Subject: Simulate ATM [7:4981]
>
>
> > Is it possible to simulate an ATM WAN cloud in a home lab?
> >
> > If it is what is a cheap way of doing this?
> >
> > What equipment is required?
> >
> > Is this something that should be done while studying for CCIE lab.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rashid
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Re: Simulate ATM [7:4981]

2001-05-18 Thread Kevin Wigle

All-In-One CCIE Lab Study Guide, Huttnick and Satterlee

Chapter 5, page 271

Has two labs using 4500s back to back.

Maybe not enough to buy the book but there's a lot more in the book (86 labs
total) for people wanting to get some labs to do at home.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown) 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: Simulate ATM [7:4981]


> Phil,
> I'm a novice when it comes to ATM, so does it mean I won't be able to
> practice PVC's if I just connect the two ATM interfaces on my 4500
> back-to-back? What would I be able to do or not do if I don't have an ATM
> switch in between the routers?
> Unfortunately, the ATM book by CiscoPress has all the lab configurations
> outfitted with 9 ATM-capable routers, so I don't know where else to look
for
> sample configurations for a home lab environment.
> Thanks for your input on this.
> Elmer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:31 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Simulate ATM [7:4981]
>
>
> Couple of UNI's (2600, 3600, 4500, or 4700) with ATM interfaces and an NNI
> ATM switch to build your PVC's & mapping  (LS100, FORE LE100 or 155,
LS1010,
> Nortel, etc.,etc.).  It's probably going to be the most expensive part of
> your lab.
>
> Phil
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Rashid Lohiya
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:28 AM
> Subject: Simulate ATM [7:4981]
>
>
> > Is it possible to simulate an ATM WAN cloud in a home lab?
> >
> > If it is what is a cheap way of doing this?
> >
> > What equipment is required?
> >
> > Is this something that should be done while studying for CCIE lab.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rashid
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RE: Simulate ATM [7:4981]

2001-05-18 Thread Daniel Cotts

The following link on the AIP card has a sample back-to-back ATM config.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/core/cis7000/interpr/atm/121
4aip.htm
Watch the wrap.
We might ask the experts if there is any utility in having a lab with a
switch to connect three ATM routers? ATM is a NBMA environment. Routing over
that might have some special considerations. Any gotchas?

> -Original Message-
> From: Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown) 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:32 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Simulate ATM [7:4981]
> 
> 
> Phil,
> I'm a novice when it comes to ATM, so does it mean I won't be able to
> practice PVC's if I just connect the two ATM interfaces on my 4500
> back-to-back? What would I be able to do or not do if I don't 
> have an ATM
> switch in between the routers?
> Unfortunately, the ATM book by CiscoPress has all the lab 
> configurations
> outfitted with 9 ATM-capable routers, so I don't know where 
> else to look for
> sample configurations for a home lab environment.
> Thanks for your input on this.
> Elmer
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:31 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Simulate ATM [7:4981]
> 
> 
> Couple of UNI's (2600, 3600, 4500, or 4700) with ATM 
> interfaces and an NNI
> ATM switch to build your PVC's & mapping  (LS100, FORE LE100 
> or 155, LS1010,
> Nortel, etc.,etc.).  It's probably going to be the most 
> expensive part of
> your lab.
> 
> Phil
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Rashid Lohiya 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:28 AM
> Subject: Simulate ATM [7:4981]
> 
> 
> > Is it possible to simulate an ATM WAN cloud in a home lab?
> >
> > If it is what is a cheap way of doing this?
> >
> > What equipment is required?
> >
> > Is this something that should be done while studying for CCIE lab.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rashid
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RE: Simulate ATM [7:4981]

2001-05-18 Thread Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)

Phil,
I'm a novice when it comes to ATM, so does it mean I won't be able to
practice PVC's if I just connect the two ATM interfaces on my 4500
back-to-back? What would I be able to do or not do if I don't have an ATM
switch in between the routers?
Unfortunately, the ATM book by CiscoPress has all the lab configurations
outfitted with 9 ATM-capable routers, so I don't know where else to look for
sample configurations for a home lab environment.
Thanks for your input on this.
Elmer

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From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:31 AM
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Subject: Re: Simulate ATM [7:4981]


Couple of UNI's (2600, 3600, 4500, or 4700) with ATM interfaces and an NNI
ATM switch to build your PVC's & mapping  (LS100, FORE LE100 or 155, LS1010,
Nortel, etc.,etc.).  It's probably going to be the most expensive part of
your lab.

Phil

- Original Message -
From: Rashid Lohiya 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:28 AM
Subject: Simulate ATM [7:4981]


> Is it possible to simulate an ATM WAN cloud in a home lab?
>
> If it is what is a cheap way of doing this?
>
> What equipment is required?
>
> Is this something that should be done while studying for CCIE lab.
>
> Thanks
>
> Rashid
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Re: Simulate ATM [7:4981]

2001-05-18 Thread Circusnuts

Couple of UNI's (2600, 3600, 4500, or 4700) with ATM interfaces and an NNI
ATM switch to build your PVC's & mapping  (LS100, FORE LE100 or 155, LS1010,
Nortel, etc.,etc.).  It's probably going to be the most expensive part of
your lab.

Phil

- Original Message -
From: Rashid Lohiya 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:28 AM
Subject: Simulate ATM [7:4981]


> Is it possible to simulate an ATM WAN cloud in a home lab?
>
> If it is what is a cheap way of doing this?
>
> What equipment is required?
>
> Is this something that should be done while studying for CCIE lab.
>
> Thanks
>
> Rashid
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