Re: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-02-09 Thread suaveguru

Is 64mb enough?


regards,

suaveguru
--- John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> why not a 3640?  I've got BGP running on a 3640 and
> the router barely knows
> that it's turned on most of the time.  The processor
> usage is very low and
> I've had zero problems so far.  I do have 128 MB of
> DRAM, though.  That is
> necessary.
> 
> >  >From: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >Reply-To: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >Subject: Which Router for BGP4 ??
> >  >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:40:18 +
> >  >
> >  > I need to run BGP4 with my ISP. Which
> router would you recommend I
> >  >purchase? Should I go with a 3620,3640 or a
> 2650,2651?  Thanks.
> >  
> >  None of the above, unless you want to filter just
> about everything that's
> 
> >  useful.  You'll need about 128Meg for the full
> table IIRC.
> >  
> >  
> >  Why do you *need* to run BGP4?
> >  
> >  Rob./
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RE: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-02-09 Thread Javier Castillo Alcibar

I think the new 265x with 128 Mbytes is a good choice.


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De: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Enviado el: viernes, 09 de febrero de 2001 9:05
Para: John Neiberger; Robert Nelson-Cox; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: Which Router for BGP4 ??


Is 64mb enough?


regards,

suaveguru
--- John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> why not a 3640?  I've got BGP running on a 3640 and
> the router barely knows
> that it's turned on most of the time.  The processor
> usage is very low and
> I've had zero problems so far.  I do have 128 MB of
> DRAM, though.  That is
> necessary.
> 
> >  >From: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >Reply-To: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >Subject: Which Router for BGP4 ??
> >  >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:40:18 +
> >  >
> >  > I need to run BGP4 with my ISP. Which
> router would you recommend I
> >  >purchase? Should I go with a 3620,3640 or a
> 2650,2651?  Thanks.
> >  
> >  None of the above, unless you want to filter just
> about everything that's
> 
> >  useful.  You'll need about 128Meg for the full
> table IIRC.
> >  
> >  
> >  Why do you *need* to run BGP4?
> >  
> >  Rob./
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Re: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-02-09 Thread Moe Tavakoli

The memory is needed to store and be able to retrieve
from the routing table as fast as possible.  Since
with BGP you get all the routes on the net (which is
quite elarge) they recommend 128MB.  

Now if you want to use less RAM you can.  That is, if
you have the ISP limit the numner of routers they are
advertising to you.  If you limit this to just a
default route advertisment from the ISP you can run
this on a 2600 with less than 64MB (this could give
you the ISP redundancy that you may be looking for.)

However I would suggest getting a 3600 series router
(or better yet 2 of them for redundancy) and getting
full routes so you can control things you may want
with BGP.

Moe Tavakoli

--- suaveguru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is 64mb enough?
> 
> 
> regards,
> 
> suaveguru
> --- John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > why not a 3640?  I've got BGP running on a 3640
> and
> > the router barely knows
> > that it's turned on most of the time.  The
> processor
> > usage is very low and
> > I've had zero problems so far.  I do have 128 MB
> of
> > DRAM, though.  That is
> > necessary.
> > 
> > >  >From: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  >Reply-To: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  >Subject: Which Router for BGP4 ??
> > >  >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:40:18 +
> > >  >
> > >  > I need to run BGP4 with my ISP. Which
> > router would you recommend I
> > >  >purchase? Should I go with a 3620,3640 or a
> > 2650,2651?  Thanks.
> > >  
> > >  None of the above, unless you want to filter
> just
> > about everything that's
> > 
> > >  useful.  You'll need about 128Meg for the full
> > table IIRC.
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  Why do you *need* to run BGP4?
> > >  
> > >  Rob./
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RE: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-02-09 Thread Kane, Christopher A.

The WAN connection is often the deciding factor for model type. We typically
use 2600's for 1 to 2 T1's, 3600's for more than 2 T1's and 7200's for DS3
and above. I know each platform has more options but that's the general
baseline we run.

As far as running BGP with your ISP, you'll need to consider how many routes
you want from the ISP. You can use BGP to advertise your networks to the ISP
but that doesn't mean that you have to get your ISP's full BGP route table
advertised to you. You can simply use a default route out. If you do want
the ISP's full routing table (possibly 96,000+ routes according to Tony's
CIDR report), then you'll want atleast 64MB of RAM. You need to take into
account the BGP process, the BGP routing table (remember, it has it's own
table) and the total IP route table. If you are running something internally
(i.e. OSPF) then take that into consideration also when determining how much
RAM you'll need.

HTH,
Chris

-Original Message-
From: Javier Castillo Alcibar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 3:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Which Router for BGP4 ??


I think the new 265x with 128 Mbytes is a good choice.


-Mensaje original-
De: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Enviado el: viernes, 09 de febrero de 2001 9:05
Para: John Neiberger; Robert Nelson-Cox; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: Which Router for BGP4 ??


Is 64mb enough?


regards,

suaveguru
--- John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> why not a 3640?  I've got BGP running on a 3640 and
> the router barely knows
> that it's turned on most of the time.  The processor
> usage is very low and
> I've had zero problems so far.  I do have 128 MB of
> DRAM, though.  That is
> necessary.
> 
> >  >From: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >Reply-To: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >Subject: Which Router for BGP4 ??
> >  >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:40:18 +
> >  >
> >  > I need to run BGP4 with my ISP. Which
> router would you recommend I
> >  >purchase? Should I go with a 3620,3640 or a
> 2650,2651?  Thanks.
> >  
> >  None of the above, unless you want to filter just
> about everything that's
> 
> >  useful.  You'll need about 128Meg for the full
> table IIRC.
> >  
> >  
> >  Why do you *need* to run BGP4?
> >  
> >  Rob./
> >  
> >  >
> >  >--
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RE: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-01-16 Thread Evan Francen

A 3640, for sure nothing less.  Are you going to be supporting a full BGP
table, or not?  If you need support for a full BGP table, you need at least
128MB of RAM.  Why have you chosen to run BGP instead of default routes (are
you going for fault tolerance on multiple circuits)?

I dunno, my 2 cents,
Evan

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I need to run BGP4 with my ISP. Which router would you recommend I
purchase? Should I go with a 3620,3640 or a 2650,2651?  Thanks.


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Re: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-01-16 Thread Robert Nelson-Cox

>From: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Which Router for BGP4 ??
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:40:18 +
>
> I need to run BGP4 with my ISP. Which router would you recommend I
>purchase? Should I go with a 3620,3640 or a 2650,2651?  Thanks.

None of the above, unless you want to filter just about everything that's 
useful.  You'll need about 128Meg for the full table IIRC.


Why do you *need* to run BGP4?

Rob./

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Re: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-01-16 Thread Andy


3620 with 128 megs of ram should be fine. 

andy

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, John Gesualdi wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> I need to run BGP4 with my ISP. Which router would you recommend I
> purchase? Should I go with a 3620,3640 or a 2650,2651?  Thanks.
> 
> 
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RE: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-01-16 Thread Evan Francen

If I am not mistaken, a 3620 only supports up to 64 MB of RAM.  The 3640 is
the "lowest" router in the Cisco line to support 128 MB.

E

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3620 with 128 megs of ram should be fine. 

andy

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, John Gesualdi wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> I need to run BGP4 with my ISP. Which router would you recommend I
> purchase? Should I go with a 3620,3640 or a 2650,2651?  Thanks.
> 
> 
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RE: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-01-16 Thread Andy


ack, thats right. thanks.

andy

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Evan Francen wrote:

> If I am not mistaken, a 3620 only supports up to 64 MB of RAM.  The 3640 is
> the "lowest" router in the Cisco line to support 128 MB.
> 
> E
> 
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> To: John Gesualdi
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> 
> 
> 3620 with 128 megs of ram should be fine. 
> 
> andy
> 
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, John Gesualdi wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I need to run BGP4 with my ISP. Which router would you recommend I
> > purchase? Should I go with a 3620,3640 or a 2650,2651?  Thanks.
> > 
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Re: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-01-16 Thread Robert Nelson-Cox

>From: Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: John Gesualdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Which Router for BGP4 ??
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:01:02 + (/etc/localtime)
>
>3620 with 128 megs of ram should be fine.

3620s only support 64Mb DRAM, the 3640 supports 128Mb, but will struggle 
with the WHOLE table.


>andy

Rob./

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>
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-01-16 Thread Glenn Johnson

i thought that the 265x series supported 128 (though the pps number is
slower than the 3640)

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If I am not mistaken, a 3620 only supports up to 64 MB of RAM.  The 3640 is
the "lowest" router in the Cisco line to support 128 MB.

E

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3620 with 128 megs of ram should be fine.

andy

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>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-01-16 Thread John Neiberger

why not a 3640?  I've got BGP running on a 3640 and the router barely knows
that it's turned on most of the time.  The processor usage is very low and
I've had zero problems so far.  I do have 128 MB of DRAM, though.  That is
necessary.

>  >From: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >Reply-To: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >Subject: Which Router for BGP4 ??
>  >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:40:18 +
>  >
>  > I need to run BGP4 with my ISP. Which router would you recommend I
>  >purchase? Should I go with a 3620,3640 or a 2650,2651?  Thanks.
>  
>  None of the above, unless you want to filter just about everything that's

>  useful.  You'll need about 128Meg for the full table IIRC.
>  
>  
>  Why do you *need* to run BGP4?
>  
>  Rob./
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Re: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-01-16 Thread Jason A. Diegmueller

> 3620 with 128 megs of ram should be fine. 

That's not doable.  

Refer to the following URL for 3600 series memory
configuration options:
  http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/3600/prodlit/544_pp.htm

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Re: Which Router for BGP4 ??

2001-01-17 Thread Net Bum

How about a Juniper M5?  It comes with 256MB RAM (or 768MB) and forwards 
5Gbps.  It's their edge router (their lowest model), but I'm sure it would 
handle your full routes.  It would be a fun toy to have :-)!

John Neiberger wrote:
>
>why not a 3640?  I've got BGP running on a 3640 and the router barely knows
>that it's turned on most of the time.  The processor usage is very low and
>I've had zero problems so far.  I do have 128 MB of DRAM, though.  That is
>necessary.
>
> >  >From: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >Reply-To: "John Gesualdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  >Subject: Which Router for BGP4 ??
> >  >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:40:18 +
> >  >
> >  > I need to run BGP4 with my ISP. Which router would you recommend 
>I
> >  >purchase? Should I go with a 3620,3640 or a 2650,2651?  Thanks.
> >
> >  None of the above, unless you want to filter just about everything 
>that's
>
> >  useful.  You'll need about 128Meg for the full table IIRC.
> >
> >
> >  Why do you *need* to run BGP4?
> >
> >  Rob./
> >
> >  >
> >  >--
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >John A. Gesualdi,CCNP, CCDP
> >  >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  >The Providence Journal Company
> >  >Phone (401)277-8133
> >  >Pager (401)785-6938
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