Re[2]: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]
If you check Cisco's website, you'll see that the old Foundation exam and both the CCNP recert and the CCDP recert all go offline on September 7th. The new test (642-891) will replace them and comes online on August 7th. The current CCNP and CCDP recerts will no longer be offered after September 7th. Just the Composite. Here's the notice: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/learning_certification_program_updates.html Karen *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/9/2003 at 11:22 PM Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >Amazing wrote: >> >> I just did the CCNP recet test two weeks ago and passed with >> not too much >> studying -- used boson test to see my weak areas and just >> brushed up on >> those areas -- hint -- you can use the same study materials you >> used three >> years ago -- nothing has changed. > >I wouldn't recommend just using the same material as 3 years ago. There are >some new topics, like IS-IS for Routing and multilayer switching for >Switching. Support and Remote Access seemed to be pretty similar, but those >other two were pretty different from 3 years ago, at least in my test. I >found it to be a two-Tums-package test for sure, depsite a good score in >the >end. > >> >> as to the answer to your questions, my experience has been that >> you should >> go directly to cisco with these questions so you have a > >I defintely agree there. Go to Cisco. Even if we give you an answer, the >Authoritative Bit will not be set. :-) That won't stop me though from >adding >a few more comments below > >> documented answer >> when they change their mind later on ;-) >> >> d >> >> >> ""John Cianfarani"" wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > I have to recert my CCNP by the 21st of this month. (yeah I >> know I left >> > it late, but I was busy upgrading my CSS1 to CCSP). >> > >> > I notice they have a new test coming out ( 642-891 ) Called >> Composite >> > which is based on BSCI and BCMSN, which will also let you >> recert your >> > CCNP and CCDP with at the same time. Now that test doesn't >> come out >> > until Aug 7th. Anyone know if there is still a Beta of this >> exam >> > available to write? > >I don't think they ever did a beta for that new composite exam that >suddenly >popped up? Maybe it will still come out? > >>Or if Writing BSCI / BCMSN is equivalent? > >I doubt you can just write BSCI and BCMSN to get recertified. > >> > >> > Also anyone know a way extended you recert date maybe by >> writing a >> > current CCNP exam or something or am I just gonna have to >> buckle down >> > and write the 640-851 CCNP Recert exam? > >Just do it. It's not that painful. :-) And I think it's your only option. >Ask Cisco and check your tracking info to be sure. Good luck! > >Priscilla > > >> > >> > Thanks! >> > John A rose by any other name is Cisco specific terminology... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=72097&t=72071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]
John,
Your best bet is to take either the composite exam or the recert exam. Both
will get you recertified and both are only one exam rather than 4. If you
can wait until the composite exam comes online (August 7th) that one may be
best since it looks like it will recertify both CCNP and CCDP at the same
time. I'm planning on taking the composite myself.
If you do have to do all four test, I'd suggest taking the foundation and
the CIT bt you'll have to be quick since the foundation is being phased out
on September 7th. After that its the composite, BCRAN, and CIT.
Karen
*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***
On 7/10/2003 at 9:57 PM John Cianfarani wrote:
>I really do hate thinking I will lose it, but with any good luck it
>should only be expired for a few weeks. I plan to write the 4 exams
>within about a 4-5 week timeframe.
>I don't really have enough time to do it for the 21st, unless all I do
>is braindump it, but would prefer to go over all the material to
>remember what I forgot and go over whatever is new, instead. I figure
>this way I'll end up writing BSCI which help in going for any of the
>CCIP's. I would have preferred just to write the Composite exam then I
>could renew CCNP and CCDP at the same time. But such is life with Cisco
>Certs.
>
>Thanks for the IS-IS document.
>John
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 3:22 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]
>
>John Cianfarani wrote:
>>
>> Well I decided I wouldn't push it in such a short timeframe
>> with the one
>> exam. With work and whatever else probably won't have enough
>> time to
>> study fully for it. So I will write either all 4 again, or
>> cit/bcran
>> and then the new Composite once it's out.
>
>
>You shouldn't lose your CCNP, albeit temporarily (hopefully). Think how
>hard
>you worked to get it. How will you feel when you can no longer say you
>have
>it? I think you should try the recert exam.
>
>I'm sorry if I scared you by saying it is hard. It is hard, but study
>the
>IS-IS supplement from Cisco Press and some material on multilayer
>switching
>and eat a lot of blueberries. At least give it a try.
>
>Here's a link on multilayer switching:
>
>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/
>switch_c/xcprt5/xcdmsov.htm
>
>Do you know about the free PDF document that Cisco Press put out on
>IS-IS
>for BSCI candidates? When Cisco added IS-IS, Cisco Press didn't have a
>book
>out yet that covered it (from a BSCI viewpoint anyway), so they put out
>a
>PDF. Here's a link:
>
>http://www.ciscopress.com/content/images/1578702283/downloads/BSCNSupple
>ment.pdf?session_id={D6502E20-0A8E-4868-8FE7-5A1A54F64857}
>
>Good luck whichever way you go, but I definitely recommend not lettting
>your
>CCNP disappear, even temporarily.
>
>Priscilla
>
>>
>> Anyone know if the Composite will count towards things like
>> CCIP? If it
>> doesn't I'd just take the 4 exam route.
>>
>> Thanks
>> John
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:22 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]
>>
>> Amazing wrote:
>> >
>> > I just did the CCNP recet test two weeks ago and passed with
>> > not too much
>> > studying -- used boson test to see my weak areas and just
>> > brushed up on
>> > those areas -- hint -- you can use the same study materials
>> you
>> > used three
>> > years ago -- nothing has changed.
>>
>> I wouldn't recommend just using the same material as 3 years
>> ago. There
>> are
>> some new topics, like IS-IS for Routing and multilayer
>> switching for
>> Switching. Support and Remote Access seemed to be pretty
>> similar, but
>> those
>> other two were pretty different from 3 years ago, at least in
>> my test. I
>> found it to be a two-Tums-package test for sure, depsite a good
>> score in
>> the
>> end.
>>
>> >
>> > as to the answer to your questions, my experience has been
>> that
>> > you should
>> > go directly to cisco with these questions so you have a
>>
>> I defintely agree there. Go to Cisco. Even if we give you an
>> answer, the
>> Authoritative Bit will not be set. :-) That won't stop me
>> though from
>> adding
>> a few more comments below
>>
>> > documented answer
>> > when they change their mind later on ;-)
>> >
>> > d
>> >
>> >
>> > ""John Cianfarani"" wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > I have to recert my CCNP by the 21st of this month. (yeah I
>> > know I left
>> > > it late, but I was busy upgrading my CSS1 to CCSP).
>> > >
>> > > I notice they have a new test coming out ( 642-891 ) Called
>> > Composite
>> > > which is based on BSCI and BCMSN, which will also let you
>> > recert your
>> > > CCNP and CCDP with at the same time. Now that test doesn't
>> > come out
>> > > until Aug 7th. Anyone know if there is still a Beta of this
>> > exam
>
Re[2]: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]
Simon,
Careful there! Don't mistake MLS for MPLS. Two different animals entirely.
MLS is Multi-Layer Switching and is strictly a LAN technology while MPLS
(Multi-Protocol Label Switching) is predominantly used in the WAN.
Here's some stuff on MPLS.
http://www.convergedigest.com/Bandwidth/archive/010910TUTORIAL-rgallaher1.htm
http://www.mplsrc.com/
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/mpls/mpls_presentations.shtml
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/mpls/mpls_techdoc.shtml
Cisco Networkers 2001 Power session on MPLS:
http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw01/pres/pr/542/
Also, if you go to http://www.webtorials.com, you'll see a link for "MPLScon
2003 Conference Presentation Handouts". You'll need a Webtorials account but
they're free. The links for creating an account or signing in are up at the
top of the page. This is one of the best places to look since the
information goes into a bit more depth than that on most sites.
Hope this helps,
Karen
*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***
On 7/12/2003 at 9:17 AM Simon Watson wrote:
>Hi PriscillaI'm in the same position as John (Cert expires on the 21st).
>But I'm going to give the re-cert a go I've printed out the the MPLS
>supplement you suggested to look on, will this be sufficent for the MPLS
>portion of the test.Also the Catalyst 5K was the principle switch in the
>switching portion 3 years ago.What switch is the switching portion of the
>test based on now ???. >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" >Reply-To:
>"Priscilla Oppenheimer" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: CCNP
>ReCert Questions [7:72071] >Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:22:00 GMT > >John
>Cianfarani wrote: > > > > Well I decided I wouldn't push it in such a
>short timeframe > > with the one > > exam. With work and whatever else
>probably won't have enough > > time to > > study fully for it. So I will
>write either all 4 again, or > > cit/bcran > > and then the new Composite
>once it's out. > > >You shouldn't lose your CCNP, albeit temporarily
>(hopefully). Think how hard >you worked to get it. How will you feel when
>you can no longer say you have >it? I think you should try the recert
>exam. > >I'm sorry if I scared you by saying it is hard. It is hard, but
>study the >IS-IS supplement from Cisco Press and some material on
>multilayer switching >and eat a lot of blueberries. At least give it a
>try. > >Here's a link on multilayer switching: >
>>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/switch_c/xcprt5/xcdmsov.htm
>> >Do you know about the free PDF document that Cisco Press put out on
>IS-IS >for BSCI candidates? When Cisco added IS-IS, Cisco Press didn't
>have a book >out yet that covered it (from a BSCI viewpoint anyway), so
>they put out a >PDF. Here's a link: >
>>http://www.ciscopress.com/content/images/1578702283/downloads/BSCNSupplement.pdf?session_id={D6502E20-0A8E-4868-8FE7-5A1A54F64857}
>> >Good luck whichever way you go, but I definitely recommend not
>lettting your >CCNP disappear, even temporarily. > >Priscilla > > > > >
>Anyone know if the Composite will count towards things like > > CCIP? If
>it > > doesn't I'd just take the 4 exam route. > > > > Thanks > > John >
>> > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:22 PM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CCNP ReCert Questions
>[7:72071] > > > > Amazing wrote: > > > > > > I just did the CCNP recet
>test two weeks ago and passed with > > > not too much > > > studying --
>used boson test to see my weak areas and just > > > brushed up on > > >
>those areas -- hint -- you can use the same study materials > > you > > >
>used three > > > years ago -- nothing has changed. > > > > I wouldn't
>recommend just using the same material as 3 years > > ago. There > > are
>> > some new topics, like IS-IS for Routing and multilayer > > switching
>for > > Switching. Support and Remote Access seemed to be pretty > >
>similar, but > > those > > other two were pretty different from 3 years
>ago, at least in > > my test. I > > found it to be a two-Tums-package
>test for sure, depsite a good > > score in > > the > > end. > > > > > > >
>> as to the answer to your questions, my experience has been > > that > >
>> you should > > > go directly to cisco with these questions so you have
>a > > > > I defintely agree there. Go to Cisco. Even if we give you an >
>> answer, the > > Authoritative Bit will not be set. :-) That won't stop
>me > > though from > > adding > > a few more comments below > > > > >
>documented answer > > > when they change their mind later on ;-) > > > >
>> > d > > > > > > > > > ""John Cianfarani"" wrote in message > > >
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > I have to
>recert my CCNP by the 21st of this month. (yeah I > > > know I left > > >
>> it late, but I was busy upgrading my CSS1 to CCSP). > > > > > > > > I
>notice they have a new test coming out ( 642-891 ) Called > > > Composite
>> > > > which is based on BSCI and B
Re: Re[2]: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]
Sorry
I meant MLS.
Thanks Karen.
- Original Message -
From: "Karen E Young"
To: "Simon Watson"
Cc:
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:45 PM
Subject: Re[2]: CCNP ReCert Questions [7:72071]
Simon,
Careful there! Don't mistake MLS for MPLS. Two different animals entirely.
MLS is Multi-Layer Switching and is strictly a LAN technology while MPLS
(Multi-Protocol Label Switching) is predominantly used in the WAN.
Here's some stuff on MPLS.
http://www.convergedigest.com/Bandwidth/archive/010910TUTORIAL-rgallaher1.ht
m
http://www.mplsrc.com/
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/mpls/mpls_presentations.shtml
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/mpls/mpls_techdoc.shtml
Cisco Networkers 2001 Power session on MPLS:
http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw01/pres/pr/542/
Also, if you go to http://www.webtorials.com, you'll see a link for "MPLScon
2003 Conference Presentation Handouts". You'll need a Webtorials account but
they're free. The links for creating an account or signing in are up at the
top of the page. This is one of the best places to look since the
information goes into a bit more depth than that on most sites.
Hope this helps,
Karen
*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***
On 7/12/2003 at 9:17 AM Simon Watson wrote:
>Hi PriscillaI'm in the same position as John (Cert expires on the 21st).
>But I'm going to give the re-cert a go I've printed out the the MPLS
>supplement you suggested to look on, will this be sufficent for the MPLS
>portion of the test.Also the Catalyst 5K was the principle switch in the
>switching portion 3 years ago.What switch is the switching portion of the
>test based on now ???. >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" >Reply-To:
>"Priscilla Oppenheimer" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: CCNP
>ReCert Questions [7:72071] >Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:22:00 GMT > >John
>Cianfarani wrote: > > > > Well I decided I wouldn't push it in such a
>short timeframe > > with the one > > exam. With work and whatever else
>probably won't have enough > > time to > > study fully for it. So I will
>write either all 4 again, or > > cit/bcran > > and then the new Composite
>once it's out. > > >You shouldn't lose your CCNP, albeit temporarily
>(hopefully). Think how hard >you worked to get it. How will you feel when
>you can no longer say you have >it? I think you should try the recert
>exam. > >I'm sorry if I scared you by saying it is hard. It is hard, but
>study the >IS-IS supplement from Cisco Press and some material on
>multilayer switching >and eat a lot of blueberries. At least give it a
>try. > >Here's a link on multilayer switching: >
>>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/sw
itch_c/xcprt5/xcdmsov.htm
>> >Do you know about the free PDF document that Cisco Press put out on
>IS-IS >for BSCI candidates? When Cisco added IS-IS, Cisco Press didn't
>have a book >out yet that covered it (from a BSCI viewpoint anyway), so
>they put out a >PDF. Here's a link: >
>>http://www.ciscopress.com/content/images/1578702283/downloads/BSCNSuppleme
nt.pdf?session_id={D6502E20-0A8E-4868-8FE7-5A1A54F64857}
>> >Good luck whichever way you go, but I definitely recommend not
>lettting your >CCNP disappear, even temporarily. > >Priscilla > > > > >
>Anyone know if the Composite will count towards things like > > CCIP? If
>it > > doesn't I'd just take the 4 exam route. > > > > Thanks > > John >
>> > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:22 PM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CCNP ReCert Questions
>[7:72071] > > > > Amazing wrote: > > > > > > I just did the CCNP recet
>test two weeks ago and passed with > > > not too much > > > studying --
>used boson test to see my weak areas and just > > > brushed up on > > >
>those areas -- hint -- you can use the same study materials > > you > > >
>used three > > > years ago -- nothing has changed. > > > > I wouldn't
>recommend just using the same material as 3 years > > ago. There > > are
>> > some new topics, like IS-IS for Routing and multilayer > > switching
>for > > Switching. Support and Remote Access seemed to be pretty > >
>similar, but > > those > > other two were pretty different from 3 years
>ago, at least in > > my test. I > > found it to be a two-Tums-package
>test for sure, deps
