Re: Snoop details [7:9944]

2001-06-29 Thread Phil Barker

This looks a bit dodgy, It looks like the SAPS should
be 00, 00. But the Analyser is mis-representing the
info- . 
What type of analyser is producing this decode ?
Can you send the hex version of the data ?

Regs,

Phil.
 
--- Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote:
 At 01:45 AM 6/27/01, Ramesh c wrote:
 More input
 
 Today I analzsed  the network for 45 minutes of
 which 5500 packets were 
 caught of which 4100 were Broadcast(1650) and
 multicast.
 
 That's a lot, but are you capturing on a switched
 port? You will see only 
 broadcasts and packets to that port (unless you use
 SPAN).
 
 I can't understand why it says EtherType is ,
 especially since it is an 
 803.2 frame. I guess it's just trying to tell you
 that there is no 
 EtherType. But what is the SAP?
 
 One of them is in AppleTalk frame. AppleTalk routers
 multicast their 
 routing table every 10 seconds, which is a lot and
 could skew the data.
 
 Priscilla
 
 
 Does that sound any caution on my network?.
 
 The Broadcast and multicast packets header as
 follows
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 88 arrived at 11:20:55.53
 ETHER:  Packet size = 494 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff,
 (broadcast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0,
 ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 480 bytes
 ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
 ETHER:
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 89 arrived at 11:20:55.59
 ETHER:  Packet size = 494 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff,
 (broadcast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0,
 ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 480 bytes
 ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
 ETHER:
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 90 arrived at 11:20:55.64
 ETHER:  Packet size = 494 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff,
 (broadcast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0,
 ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 480 bytes
 ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
 ETHER:
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 91 arrived at 11:20:55.70
 ETHER:  Packet size = 110 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff,
 (broadcast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0,
 ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 96 bytes
 ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
 ETHER:
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 92 arrived at 11:20:55.88
 ETHER:  Packet size = 52 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = 1:80:c2:0:0:0, (multicast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:90:ab:ec:f3:5,
 ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 38 bytes
 ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
 ETHER:
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 93 arrived at 11:20:55.94
 ETHER:  Packet size = 45 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = 9:0:7:ff:ff:ff, (multicast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:60:b0:54:c1:7e,
 ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 31 bytes
 ETHER:  Ethertype = 809B (EtherTalk (AppleTalk over
 Ethernet))
 ETHER:
 
 --
 
 On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:58:10
   Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
  2100 broadcasts in 30 minutes might be OK,
 actually. Can you tell us how
  much bandwidth they are using? Can you tell us
 what percentage of the
  packets are broadcasts? A rule of thumb that
 Cisco teaches is that no more
  than 20% of your packets should be broadcasts.
 The main problem with
  broadcasts is that they interrupt station CPUs,
 but with the high-speed of
  CPUs these days, that is less of an issue.
  
  You seem to be running NetBT, which is NetBIOS
 over TCP/IP. (NetBEUI is
  NetBIOS running directly on a data-link, which is
 not what you are
  running.) NetBIOS sends lots of broadcasts. In
 this example, the server
  CDTOWER is sending a broadcast. You need to find
 out if that is necessary
  on your network or not. It seems a bit odd that
 CDTOWER is sending the
  frame directly to RND at the NetBIOS layer but to
 a broadcast address at
  the network and data-link layers. Sometimes a
 subnet mask misconfiguration
  can cause such a problem. Check CDTOWER and RND's
 configs.
  
  The last byte of a NetBIOS name tells you what
 kind of device it is.
  CDTOWER ends with x20, which means server, if I
 remember correctly. RND
  ends with 0x0 and I have forgotten what that
 means and my NetBIOS
  documentation is packed away. But you could find
 this somewhere on the Net
  or one of our esteemed colleagues probably knows.
  
  I don't recognize the other broadcast packets.
 They have an 802.3 length
  field of 0 even though there's data in the
 packet. It sounds like a bug?
  Would it be possible to find the station sending
 them (0:8:c7:d2:4a:ab)
 and
  check its configuration?
  
  Priscilla
  
  At 05:20 AM 6/26/01, Ramesh c wrote:
  I did a kind of traffic study on my network and
 here it goes
  
  1)I get about 2100 broadcast packets in
 30minutes.Does that sound a 
  alarm in
  my network?
  
 

-
  2)Most of the Broadcast of this type...
  57   0.03870  10.65.2.192 - 10.65.2.255  NBT
 Datagram Service Type=17
  Source=CDTOWER[20]
  
  ETHER:  - 

Re: Snoop details [7:9944]

2001-06-27 Thread Ramesh c

More input 

Today I analzsed  the network for 45 minutes of which 5500 packets were
caught of which 4100 were Broadcast(1650) and multicast.
Does that sound any caution on my network?.

The Broadcast and multicast packets header as follows

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:  
ETHER:  Packet 88 arrived at 11:20:55.53
ETHER:  Packet size = 494 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0, 
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 480 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
ETHER:  

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:  
ETHER:  Packet 89 arrived at 11:20:55.59
ETHER:  Packet size = 494 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0, 
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 480 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
ETHER:  

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:  
ETHER:  Packet 90 arrived at 11:20:55.64
ETHER:  Packet size = 494 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0, 
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 480 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
ETHER:  

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:  
ETHER:  Packet 91 arrived at 11:20:55.70
ETHER:  Packet size = 110 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0, 
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 96 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
ETHER:  

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:  
ETHER:  Packet 92 arrived at 11:20:55.88
ETHER:  Packet size = 52 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = 1:80:c2:0:0:0, (multicast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:90:ab:ec:f3:5, 
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 38 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
ETHER:  

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:  
ETHER:  Packet 93 arrived at 11:20:55.94
ETHER:  Packet size = 45 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = 9:0:7:ff:ff:ff, (multicast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:60:b0:54:c1:7e, 
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 31 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype = 809B (EtherTalk (AppleTalk over Ethernet))
ETHER:  

--

On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:58:10  
 Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
2100 broadcasts in 30 minutes might be OK, actually. Can you tell us how 
much bandwidth they are using? Can you tell us what percentage of the 
packets are broadcasts? A rule of thumb that Cisco teaches is that no more 
than 20% of your packets should be broadcasts. The main problem with 
broadcasts is that they interrupt station CPUs, but with the high-speed of 
CPUs these days, that is less of an issue.

You seem to be running NetBT, which is NetBIOS over TCP/IP. (NetBEUI is 
NetBIOS running directly on a data-link, which is not what you are 
running.) NetBIOS sends lots of broadcasts. In this example, the server 
CDTOWER is sending a broadcast. You need to find out if that is necessary 
on your network or not. It seems a bit odd that CDTOWER is sending the 
frame directly to RND at the NetBIOS layer but to a broadcast address at 
the network and data-link layers. Sometimes a subnet mask misconfiguration 
can cause such a problem. Check CDTOWER and RND's configs.

The last byte of a NetBIOS name tells you what kind of device it is. 
CDTOWER ends with x20, which means server, if I remember correctly. RND 
ends with 0x0 and I have forgotten what that means and my NetBIOS 
documentation is packed away. But you could find this somewhere on the Net 
or one of our esteemed colleagues probably knows.

I don't recognize the other broadcast packets. They have an 802.3 length 
field of 0 even though there's data in the packet. It sounds like a bug? 
Would it be possible to find the station sending them (0:8:c7:d2:4a:ab) and 
check its configuration?

Priscilla

At 05:20 AM 6/26/01, Ramesh c wrote:
I did a kind of traffic study on my network and here it goes

1)I get about 2100 broadcast packets in 30minutes.Does that sound a alarm
in
my network?

-
2)Most of the Broadcast of this type...
57   0.03870  10.65.2.192 - 10.65.2.255  NBT Datagram Service Type=17
Source=CDTOWER[20]

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:
ETHER:  Packet 57 arrived at 14:44:47.57
ETHER:  Packet size = 266 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:60:b0:b6:b2:62,
ETHER:  Ethertype = 0800 (IP)
ETHER:
IP:   - IP Header -
IP:
IP:   Version = 4
IP:   Header length = 20 bytes
IP:   Type of service = 0x00
IP: xxx.  = 0 (precedence)
IP: ...0  = normal delay
IP:  0... = normal throughput
IP:  .0.. = normal reliability
IP:   Total length = 252 bytes
IP:   Identification = 22165
IP:   Flags = 0x0
IP: .0..  = may fragment
IP: ..0.  = last fragment
IP:   Fragment offset = 0 bytes
IP:   Time to live = 64 seconds/hops
IP:   Protocol = 17 (UDP)
IP:   Header checksum = 091c
IP:   Source address = 192.65.2.192, 192.65.2.192
IP:   Destination address = 192.65.2.255, 192.65.2.255
IP:   No options
IP:
UDP:  - UDP Header 

Re: Snoop details [7:9944]

2001-06-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 01:45 AM 6/27/01, Ramesh c wrote:
More input

Today I analzsed  the network for 45 minutes of which 5500 packets were 
caught of which 4100 were Broadcast(1650) and multicast.

That's a lot, but are you capturing on a switched port? You will see only 
broadcasts and packets to that port (unless you use SPAN).

I can't understand why it says EtherType is , especially since it is an 
803.2 frame. I guess it's just trying to tell you that there is no 
EtherType. But what is the SAP?

One of them is in AppleTalk frame. AppleTalk routers multicast their 
routing table every 10 seconds, which is a lot and could skew the data.

Priscilla


Does that sound any caution on my network?.

The Broadcast and multicast packets header as follows

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:
ETHER:  Packet 88 arrived at 11:20:55.53
ETHER:  Packet size = 494 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0,
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 480 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
ETHER:

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:
ETHER:  Packet 89 arrived at 11:20:55.59
ETHER:  Packet size = 494 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0,
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 480 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
ETHER:

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:
ETHER:  Packet 90 arrived at 11:20:55.64
ETHER:  Packet size = 494 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0,
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 480 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
ETHER:

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:
ETHER:  Packet 91 arrived at 11:20:55.70
ETHER:  Packet size = 110 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:10:7b:b6:ee:a0,
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 96 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
ETHER:

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:
ETHER:  Packet 92 arrived at 11:20:55.88
ETHER:  Packet size = 52 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = 1:80:c2:0:0:0, (multicast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:90:ab:ec:f3:5,
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 38 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
ETHER:

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:
ETHER:  Packet 93 arrived at 11:20:55.94
ETHER:  Packet size = 45 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = 9:0:7:ff:ff:ff, (multicast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:60:b0:54:c1:7e,
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 31 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype = 809B (EtherTalk (AppleTalk over Ethernet))
ETHER:

--

On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:58:10
  Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 2100 broadcasts in 30 minutes might be OK, actually. Can you tell us how
 much bandwidth they are using? Can you tell us what percentage of the
 packets are broadcasts? A rule of thumb that Cisco teaches is that no more
 than 20% of your packets should be broadcasts. The main problem with
 broadcasts is that they interrupt station CPUs, but with the high-speed of
 CPUs these days, that is less of an issue.
 
 You seem to be running NetBT, which is NetBIOS over TCP/IP. (NetBEUI is
 NetBIOS running directly on a data-link, which is not what you are
 running.) NetBIOS sends lots of broadcasts. In this example, the server
 CDTOWER is sending a broadcast. You need to find out if that is necessary
 on your network or not. It seems a bit odd that CDTOWER is sending the
 frame directly to RND at the NetBIOS layer but to a broadcast address at
 the network and data-link layers. Sometimes a subnet mask misconfiguration
 can cause such a problem. Check CDTOWER and RND's configs.
 
 The last byte of a NetBIOS name tells you what kind of device it is.
 CDTOWER ends with x20, which means server, if I remember correctly. RND
 ends with 0x0 and I have forgotten what that means and my NetBIOS
 documentation is packed away. But you could find this somewhere on the Net
 or one of our esteemed colleagues probably knows.
 
 I don't recognize the other broadcast packets. They have an 802.3 length
 field of 0 even though there's data in the packet. It sounds like a bug?
 Would it be possible to find the station sending them (0:8:c7:d2:4a:ab)
and
 check its configuration?
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 05:20 AM 6/26/01, Ramesh c wrote:
 I did a kind of traffic study on my network and here it goes
 
 1)I get about 2100 broadcast packets in 30minutes.Does that sound a 
 alarm in
 my network?
 
 -
 2)Most of the Broadcast of this type...
 57   0.03870  10.65.2.192 - 10.65.2.255  NBT Datagram Service Type=17
 Source=CDTOWER[20]
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 57 arrived at 14:44:47.57
 ETHER:  Packet size = 266 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:60:b0:b6:b2:62,
 ETHER:  Ethertype = 0800 (IP)
 ETHER:
 IP:   - IP Header -
 IP:
 IP:   Version = 4
 IP:   Header length = 20 bytes
 IP:   Type of service = 0x00
 IP: xxx.  = 0 (precedence)
 IP: ...0  = normal 

Snoop details [7:9944]

2001-06-26 Thread Ramesh c

I did a kind of traffic study on my network and here it goes  

1)I get about 2100 broadcast packets in 30minutes.Does that sound a alarm in
my network?

-
2)Most of the Broadcast of this type...
57   0.03870  10.65.2.192 - 10.65.2.255  NBT Datagram Service Type=17
Source=CDTOWER[20]

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:  
ETHER:  Packet 57 arrived at 14:44:47.57
ETHER:  Packet size = 266 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:60:b0:b6:b2:62, 
ETHER:  Ethertype = 0800 (IP)
ETHER:  
IP:   - IP Header -
IP:   
IP:   Version = 4
IP:   Header length = 20 bytes
IP:   Type of service = 0x00
IP: xxx.  = 0 (precedence)
IP: ...0  = normal delay
IP:  0... = normal throughput
IP:  .0.. = normal reliability
IP:   Total length = 252 bytes
IP:   Identification = 22165
IP:   Flags = 0x0
IP: .0..  = may fragment
IP: ..0.  = last fragment
IP:   Fragment offset = 0 bytes
IP:   Time to live = 64 seconds/hops
IP:   Protocol = 17 (UDP)
IP:   Header checksum = 091c
IP:   Source address = 192.65.2.192, 192.65.2.192
IP:   Destination address = 192.65.2.255, 192.65.2.255
IP:   No options
IP:   
UDP:  - UDP Header -
UDP:  
UDP:  Source port = 138
UDP:  Destination port = 138 (NBDG)
UDP:  Length = 232 
UDP:  Checksum =  (no checksum)
UDP:  
NBT:  - Netbios Datagram Service Header -
NBT:  
NBT:  Datagram Packet Type = 0x11
NBT:  Datagram Flags = 0x0a
NBT:  Datagram ID = 0xb367
NBT:  Source IP = 192.65.2.192
NBT:  Source Port = 138
NBT:  Datagram Length = 0x00d2
NBT:  Packet Offset = 0x
NBT:  Source Name = CDTOWER[20]
NBT:  Destination Name = RND[0]
NBT:  Number of data bytes remaining = 142
NBT:  

Is this a normal behaviour or do I need to remove netbeui protocol?
 

3)Another type od Broadcast packet
509   0.28533? - (broadcast)  ETHER Type= (LLC/802.3), size
= 110 bytes
510   1.54573? - (broadcast)  ETHER Type= (LLC/802.3), size
= 110 bytes
511   0.72617? - (broadcast)  ETHER Type= (LLC/802.3), size
= 110 bytes

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:  
ETHER:  Packet 511 arrived at 14:51:52.90
ETHER:  Packet size = 110 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:8:c7:d2:4a:ab, 
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 96 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
ETHER:  

What is this broadcast packet trying to do?Or how do i debug this for more
info.

Any help would be appricated

Cheers
Ramesh




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Re: Snoop details [7:9944]

2001-06-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

2100 broadcasts in 30 minutes might be OK, actually. Can you tell us how 
much bandwidth they are using? Can you tell us what percentage of the 
packets are broadcasts? A rule of thumb that Cisco teaches is that no more 
than 20% of your packets should be broadcasts. The main problem with 
broadcasts is that they interrupt station CPUs, but with the high-speed of 
CPUs these days, that is less of an issue.

You seem to be running NetBT, which is NetBIOS over TCP/IP. (NetBEUI is 
NetBIOS running directly on a data-link, which is not what you are 
running.) NetBIOS sends lots of broadcasts. In this example, the server 
CDTOWER is sending a broadcast. You need to find out if that is necessary 
on your network or not. It seems a bit odd that CDTOWER is sending the 
frame directly to RND at the NetBIOS layer but to a broadcast address at 
the network and data-link layers. Sometimes a subnet mask misconfiguration 
can cause such a problem. Check CDTOWER and RND's configs.

The last byte of a NetBIOS name tells you what kind of device it is. 
CDTOWER ends with x20, which means server, if I remember correctly. RND 
ends with 0x0 and I have forgotten what that means and my NetBIOS 
documentation is packed away. But you could find this somewhere on the Net 
or one of our esteemed colleagues probably knows.

I don't recognize the other broadcast packets. They have an 802.3 length 
field of 0 even though there's data in the packet. It sounds like a bug? 
Would it be possible to find the station sending them (0:8:c7:d2:4a:ab) and 
check its configuration?

Priscilla

At 05:20 AM 6/26/01, Ramesh c wrote:
I did a kind of traffic study on my network and here it goes

1)I get about 2100 broadcast packets in 30minutes.Does that sound a alarm in
my network?

-
2)Most of the Broadcast of this type...
57   0.03870  10.65.2.192 - 10.65.2.255  NBT Datagram Service Type=17
Source=CDTOWER[20]

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:
ETHER:  Packet 57 arrived at 14:44:47.57
ETHER:  Packet size = 266 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:60:b0:b6:b2:62,
ETHER:  Ethertype = 0800 (IP)
ETHER:
IP:   - IP Header -
IP:
IP:   Version = 4
IP:   Header length = 20 bytes
IP:   Type of service = 0x00
IP: xxx.  = 0 (precedence)
IP: ...0  = normal delay
IP:  0... = normal throughput
IP:  .0.. = normal reliability
IP:   Total length = 252 bytes
IP:   Identification = 22165
IP:   Flags = 0x0
IP: .0..  = may fragment
IP: ..0.  = last fragment
IP:   Fragment offset = 0 bytes
IP:   Time to live = 64 seconds/hops
IP:   Protocol = 17 (UDP)
IP:   Header checksum = 091c
IP:   Source address = 192.65.2.192, 192.65.2.192
IP:   Destination address = 192.65.2.255, 192.65.2.255
IP:   No options
IP:
UDP:  - UDP Header -
UDP:
UDP:  Source port = 138
UDP:  Destination port = 138 (NBDG)
UDP:  Length = 232
UDP:  Checksum =  (no checksum)
UDP:
NBT:  - Netbios Datagram Service Header -
NBT:
NBT:  Datagram Packet Type = 0x11
NBT:  Datagram Flags = 0x0a
NBT:  Datagram ID = 0xb367
NBT:  Source IP = 192.65.2.192
NBT:  Source Port = 138
NBT:  Datagram Length = 0x00d2
NBT:  Packet Offset = 0x
NBT:  Source Name = CDTOWER[20]
NBT:  Destination Name = RND[0]
NBT:  Number of data bytes remaining = 142
NBT:

Is this a normal behaviour or do I need to remove netbeui protocol?


3)Another type od Broadcast packet
509   0.28533? - (broadcast)  ETHER Type= (LLC/802.3), size
= 110 bytes
510   1.54573? - (broadcast)  ETHER Type= (LLC/802.3), size
= 110 bytes
511   0.72617? - (broadcast)  ETHER Type= (LLC/802.3), size
= 110 bytes

ETHER:  - Ether Header -
ETHER:
ETHER:  Packet 511 arrived at 14:51:52.90
ETHER:  Packet size = 110 bytes
ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
ETHER:  Source  = 0:8:c7:d2:4a:ab,
ETHER:  IEEE 802.3 length = 96 bytes
ETHER:  Ethertype =  (LLC/802.3)
ETHER:

What is this broadcast packet trying to do?Or how do i debug this for more
info.

Any help would be appricated

Cheers
Ramesh




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Re: Snoop details [7:9944]

2001-06-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I found the documentation on what the last byte of a NetBIOS name means. 
Though it's not very user friendly, here it is:

 redirector name
 main user name
 alias name
 server name

This leads me to believe that RND is a workstation running a 
redirector, which is normal. I think it is quite odd, however, that the 
CDTOWER server sends a datagram to the RND workstation as a broadcast.

If the server were using port 137, which is often used for naming 
announcements, then it wouldn't be weird. But it's using port 138. NetBIOS 
ports are:

137 Name Service
138 Datagram Service
139 Session Service

So what might cause CDTOWER's TCP/IP stack to think that 192.65.2.255 is a 
broadcast? (What might have caused the stack to tell the data-link layer to 
send the frame to the broadcast address?) CDTOWER's own IP address is 
192.65.2.192.

We can't tell the subnet mask from the frames, but anyone have any 
theories? It's good practice in bit-twiddling. There are many possibilities.

How CDTOWER got the IP address for RND to start with is another (harder) 
mystery

Priscilla

At 04:09 PM 6/26/01, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
2100 broadcasts in 30 minutes might be OK, actually. Can you tell us how
much bandwidth they are using? Can you tell us what percentage of the
packets are broadcasts? A rule of thumb that Cisco teaches is that no more
than 20% of your packets should be broadcasts. The main problem with
broadcasts is that they interrupt station CPUs, but with the high-speed of
CPUs these days, that is less of an issue.

You seem to be running NetBT, which is NetBIOS over TCP/IP. (NetBEUI is
NetBIOS running directly on a data-link, which is not what you are
running.) NetBIOS sends lots of broadcasts. In this example, the server
CDTOWER is sending a broadcast. You need to find out if that is necessary
on your network or not. It seems a bit odd that CDTOWER is sending the
frame directly to RND at the NetBIOS layer but to a broadcast address at
the network and data-link layers. Sometimes a subnet mask misconfiguration
can cause such a problem. Check CDTOWER and RND's configs.

The last byte of a NetBIOS name tells you what kind of device it is.
CDTOWER ends with x20, which means server, if I remember correctly. RND
ends with 0x0 and I have forgotten what that means and my NetBIOS
documentation is packed away. But you could find this somewhere on the Net
or one of our esteemed colleagues probably knows.

I don't recognize the other broadcast packets. They have an 802.3 length
field of 0 even though there's data in the packet. It sounds like a bug?
Would it be possible to find the station sending them (0:8:c7:d2:4a:ab) and
check its configuration?

Priscilla

At 05:20 AM 6/26/01, Ramesh c wrote:
 I did a kind of traffic study on my network and here it goes
 
 1)I get about 2100 broadcast packets in 30minutes.Does that sound a alarm
in
 my network?
 
 -
 2)Most of the Broadcast of this type...
 57   0.03870  10.65.2.192 - 10.65.2.255  NBT Datagram Service Type=17
 Source=CDTOWER[20]
 
 ETHER:  - Ether Header -
 ETHER:
 ETHER:  Packet 57 arrived at 14:44:47.57
 ETHER:  Packet size = 266 bytes
 ETHER:  Destination = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, (broadcast)
 ETHER:  Source  = 0:60:b0:b6:b2:62,
 ETHER:  Ethertype = 0800 (IP)
 ETHER:
 IP:   - IP Header -
 IP:
 IP:   Version = 4
 IP:   Header length = 20 bytes
 IP:   Type of service = 0x00
 IP: xxx.  = 0 (precedence)
 IP: ...0  = normal delay
 IP:  0... = normal throughput
 IP:  .0.. = normal reliability
 IP:   Total length = 252 bytes
 IP:   Identification = 22165
 IP:   Flags = 0x0
 IP: .0..  = may fragment
 IP: ..0.  = last fragment
 IP:   Fragment offset = 0 bytes
 IP:   Time to live = 64 seconds/hops
 IP:   Protocol = 17 (UDP)
 IP:   Header checksum = 091c
 IP:   Source address = 192.65.2.192, 192.65.2.192
 IP:   Destination address = 192.65.2.255, 192.65.2.255
 IP:   No options
 IP:
 UDP:  - UDP Header -
 UDP:
 UDP:  Source port = 138
 UDP:  Destination port = 138 (NBDG)
 UDP:  Length = 232
 UDP:  Checksum =  (no checksum)
 UDP:
 NBT:  - Netbios Datagram Service Header -
 NBT:
 NBT:  Datagram Packet Type = 0x11
 NBT:  Datagram Flags = 0x0a
 NBT:  Datagram ID = 0xb367
 NBT:  Source IP = 192.65.2.192
 NBT:  Source Port = 138
 NBT:  Datagram Length = 0x00d2
 NBT:  Packet Offset = 0x
 NBT:  Source Name = CDTOWER[20]
 NBT:  Destination Name = RND[0]
 NBT:  Number of data bytes remaining = 142
 NBT:
 
 Is this a normal behaviour or do I need to remove netbeui protocol?
 
 
 3)Another type od Broadcast packet
 509   0.28533? - (broadcast)  ETHER Type= (LLC/802.3),
size
 = 110 bytes
 510   1.54573? - (broadcast)  ETHER Type= (LLC/802.3),
size
 = 110 bytes
 511   0.72617? - (broadcast)