Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-22 Thread John Neiberger
This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950 switches
is port 13?

I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a device
connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the last
two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users in
port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in the
past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.

Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
underneath ladders until I get this resolved!

John




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Always use ports 7 and 14. They're lucky.
> 
> From: "John Neiberger" 
> Date: 2003/07/22 Tue PM 04:53:08 EDT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]
> 
> This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
> noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950 switches
> is port 13?
> 
> I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a device
> connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the last
> two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users in
> port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in the
> past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
> 
> Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
> underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
> 
> John




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-22 Thread Chris
John please check and see maybe the joint of the balance is on that port.
If you count the VLAN1 and CPU interfaces that makes 26.
26/2=13 if it is a Blind Justice. (see below).


"I do have this horrible mental image of Blind Justice standing there
with a packet stream going into each pan of the balance. Of course,
one needs to decide on the weight of a packet...
John Neiberger   "



John Neiberger wrote:

> This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
> noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950 switches
> is port 13?
>
> I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a device
> connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the last
> two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users in
> port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in the
> past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
>
> Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
> underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
>
> John




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread MADMAN
There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)

   Dave

John Neiberger wrote:
> This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
> noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950 switches
> is port 13?
> 
> I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a device
> connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the last
> two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users in
> port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in the
> past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
> 
> Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
> underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
> 
> John
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Sr. Network Engineer
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612-664-3367

"Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread Raj
Anybody knows when and how did the number 13 get so unpopular? Whats the
story behind it?


""MADMAN""  wrote in message
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> There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)
>
>Dave
>
> John Neiberger wrote:
> > This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
> > noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950
switches
> > is port 13?
> >
> > I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a
device
> > connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the
last
> > two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users
in
> > port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in the
> > past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
> >
> > Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
> > underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
> >
> > John
> -- 
> David Madland
> CCIE# 2016
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications
> 612-664-3367
>
> "Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
> can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread Kent Hundley
It's a long story...

http://www.naplesnews.com/today/restate/a120401k.htm

-Kent

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 11:28, Raj wrote:
> Anybody knows when and how did the number 13 get so unpopular? Whats the
> story behind it?
> 
> 
> ""MADMAN""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)
> >
> >Dave
> >
> > John Neiberger wrote:
> > > This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
> > > noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950
> switches
> > > is port 13?
> > >
> > > I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a
> device
> > > connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the
> last
> > > two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users
> in
> > > port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in
the
> > > past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
> > >
> > > Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
> > > underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
> > >
> > > John
> > -- 
> > David Madland
> > CCIE# 2016
> > Sr. Network Engineer
> > Qwest Communications
> > 612-664-3367
> >
> > "Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
> > can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread MADMAN
As far as I can tell there is no one definitive known reason but 
several plausible reasons.  I also understand some cultures like the 
Chinese consider 13 lucky:)

   Dave

Raj wrote:
> Anybody knows when and how did the number 13 get so unpopular? Whats the
> story behind it?
> 
> 
> ""MADMAN""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>>There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)
>>
>>   Dave
>>
>>John Neiberger wrote:
>>
>>>This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
>>>noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950
>>
> switches
> 
>>>is port 13?
>>>
>>>I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a
>>
> device
> 
>>>connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the
>>
> last
> 
>>>two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users
>>
> in
> 
>>>port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in the
>>>past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
>>>
>>>Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
>>>underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>-- 
>>David Madland
>>CCIE# 2016
>>Sr. Network Engineer
>>Qwest Communications
>>612-664-3367
>>
>>"Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
>>can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson
-- 
David Madland
CCIE# 2016
Sr. Network Engineer
Qwest Communications
612-664-3367

"Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread
""MADMAN""  wrote in message
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> There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)

problem is that 13 is unlucky only among western eurtopeans or those who
have been subsumed in our culture.

perhaps some from other parts of the world on this list have experience with
other unlucky ports. for example, IIRC, among those of middle eastern
heritage, 13 is OK but I believe that 14 may not be.

I'm sure someone will point out my ignorance and my poor memory. It's been a
long time since I've read the Fletch books, which is my source. :->


>
>Dave
>
> John Neiberger wrote:
> > This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
> > noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950
switches
> > is port 13?
> >
> > I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a
device
> > connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the
last
> > two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users
in
> > port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in the
> > past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
> >
> > Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
> > underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
> >
> > John
> -- 
> David Madland
> CCIE# 2016
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications
> 612-664-3367
>
> "Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
> can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread
""Kent Hundley""  wrote in message
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> It's a long story...
>
> http://www.naplesnews.com/today/restate/a120401k.htm


in a way, that validates the Christian tradion, because Christianity assumed
and consumed an awful lot of pieces from the native european pagan religions
and traditions as it became more powerful during the early middle ages.

many european cathedrals were build on the sites of pagan cult centers.

>
> -Kent
>
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 11:28, Raj wrote:
> > Anybody knows when and how did the number 13 get so unpopular? Whats the
> > story behind it?
> >
> >
> > ""MADMAN""  wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > > John Neiberger wrote:
> > > > This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of
you
> > > > noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950
> > switches
> > > > is port 13?
> > > >
> > > > I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a
> > device
> > > > connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in
the
> > last
> > > > two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of
users
> > in
> > > > port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in
> the
> > > > past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
> > > >
> > > > Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
> > > > underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > -- 
> > > David Madland
> > > CCIE# 2016
> > > Sr. Network Engineer
> > > Qwest Communications
> > > 612-664-3367
> > >
> > > "Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
> > > can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-23 Thread
""Raj""  wrote in message
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> Anybody knows when and how did the number 13 get so unpopular? Whats the
> story behind it?


in the Christian tradition, 13 is unlucky because there were 13 people at
the Last Supper.

or so I was told by the good nuns when they wren't busy whacking my knuckles
with a ruler ;->

>
>
> ""MADMAN""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)
> >
> >Dave
> >
> > John Neiberger wrote:
> > > This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
> > > noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950
> switches
> > > is port 13?
> > >
> > > I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a
> device
> > > connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the
> last
> > > two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users
> in
> > > port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in
the
> > > past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
> > >
> > > Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
> > > underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
> > >
> > > John
> > -- 
> > David Madland
> > CCIE# 2016
> > Sr. Network Engineer
> > Qwest Communications
> > 612-664-3367
> >
> > "Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
> > can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Always use ports 7 and 14. They're lucky.
> 
> From: "John Neiberger" 
> Date: 2003/07/22 Tue PM 04:53:08 EDT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]
> 
> This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of you
> noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950 switches
> is port 13?
> 
> I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a device
> connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the last
> two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of users in
> port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in the
> past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
> 
> Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
> underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
> 
> John




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Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-24 Thread Lauren Child
"Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorte wrote:
> 
> ""MADMAN""  wrote in message
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> > There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)
> 
> problem is that 13 is unlucky only among western eurtopeans or
> those who
> have been subsumed in our culture.
> 
> perhaps some from other parts of the world on this list have
> experience with
> other unlucky ports. for example, IIRC, among those of middle
> eastern
> heritage, 13 is OK but I believe that 14 may not be.
> 


Maybe Cisco should only build switches in parts of the world where there
isnt an unlucky number beneath 26 (or 50)

:)

Just a thought...

Lauren


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RE: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

2003-07-26 Thread Jim Devane
Actually, I think Chinese that are superstitious would prefer 8. Eight
in Chinese is "Ba" which sounds close to "fa" which can mean prosperity.


Port 88, 888, or  would be even better.

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Subject: Re: Superstitious Switches? [7:72746]

As far as I can tell there is no one definitive known reason but 
several plausible reasons.  I also understand some cultures like the 
Chinese consider 13 lucky:)

   Dave

Raj wrote:
> Anybody knows when and how did the number 13 get so unpopular? Whats
the
> story behind it?
> 
> 
> ""MADMAN""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>>There is a reason many hotels don't have a 13th floor;)
>>
>>   Dave
>>
>>John Neiberger wrote:
>>
>>>This is not a joke, I promise, but it is very strange. Have any of
you
>>>noticed that by far the most problematic port on the Catalyst 2950
>>
> switches
> 
>>>is port 13?
>>>
>>>I'd bet money that at least 20% of the time we have a problem with a
>>
> device
> 
>>>connected to these switches they're connected to port 13. Just in the
>>
> last
> 
>>>two days we've had to troubleshoot *three* separate instances of
users
>>
> in
> 
>>>port 13 on these switches, and I can think of at least three more in
the
>>>past. I once had to RMA a 2950 because port 13 died.
>>>
>>>Doesn't this seem a little odd?  I think I'm going to stop walking
>>>underneath ladders until I get this resolved!
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>-- 
>>David Madland
>>CCIE# 2016
>>Sr. Network Engineer
>>Qwest Communications
>>612-664-3367
>>
>>"Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
>>can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson
-- 
David Madland
CCIE# 2016
Sr. Network Engineer
Qwest Communications
612-664-3367

"Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson




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