RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

2003-07-21 Thread brian dell
paul,

then why not provide for links to cert books, router simulators etc.

cert books from sybex and cisco press can be a good start and if you can
request the merchant (amazon as you mentioned) to provide a promotion code
then during checkout one could put that code and may be (may be) amazon
could give some $$ off to us as well, like free shippping (just an example).
so its a win-win for all, amazon, groupstudy and us !!!  (i am pretty sure
amazon could provide that to a site like groupstudy)

thanks


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RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

2003-07-14 Thread Elijah Savage
Paul,

I do not know if you have found a collocation place already but here is
a very nice and reputable one at a price I think is very affordable. I
know a few people using this facility and the bandwidth is amazing. I
know someone using the 99$ package for a ftp server and you get 700gig a
month in this package.

Hopefully this helps and yes a paypal account is a good idea to accept
donations.

http://www.rackshack.net

Not affiliated in any way with this place.




-Original Message-
From: Eagles Fan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

Right on that one!!  don't want this list to go by the wayside.  how can
I 
help?

From: Dennis Laganiere 
Reply-To: Dennis Laganiere 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:02:02 GMT

Paul...

Many of us feel the same way.  If you setup a paypal account, I think 
you'll
find a lot of us will help to defray some of your expenses...

Thanks for all your efforts...

--- Dennis

- Original Message -
From: Walker, James, IS
To:
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]


  Paul,
 
  Can we help you out with this great service you are providing to us
by
  making a
  small donation?
  I know I'm not alone when I say that your service has been
invaluable to
us
  in
  the Ciscos of the world.
 
  Thanks,
  Jim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:29 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
 
 
  Hey Everyone,
 
 
 
  We will be moving the mailing list function to a new server.  If you
are
  currently receiving this list via e-mail, you will be affected.
This
  has been planned for some time now but we need to move faster then I
  would like.  I just received a bill from our co-location facility
for
  the GroupStudy service and let's just put it this way, in most
locations
  rent on a two bedroom apartment is less expensive.  So we need to
try
  and reduce our bandwidth usage (an eventually find another
co-location
  facility).
 
 
 
  It has been quite clear for some time now that the GroupStudy server
  needs help.  We are dropping an unacceptable number of messages (I
  personally have had five in a row discarded) and the messages that
make
  it take a random amount of time to propagate.  To fix this, I have
  purchased a new server and bandwidth (at a lower cost facility).  We
  will be migrating to the new server in the next few days.  Once the
move
  is complete we will cut over to the new server.
 
 
 
  But wait it gets better .. We are dumping majordomo as our list
  software!  Our new software will allow you to change a number of
  options.  For example you will be able to suspend distribution of
the
  e-mails, receive e-mails in digest format, change your e-mail
address,
  etc.
 
 
 
  You will receive a welcome message with your account information.
The
 
  message will contain your username/password, instructions on how to
  login to the server, and instructions on how to unsubscribe.  Please
  save this e-mail for future reference.  It is also a good idea to
login
  to the server and set your password to something more memorable then
the
  random password given.
 
 
 
  If you stop receiving e-mails from the list after the change, please
  send me an e-mail (after verifying it is not a problem at your end
such
  as misconfigured anti-spam software etc.).
 
 
 
  Take care,
 
 
 
  Paul Borghese
_
MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*  
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus




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Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

2003-07-14 Thread Jamie Johnson
I'll pitch in. This is a good list..

Jamie

Eagles Fan wrote:
 
 Right on that one!!  don't want this list to go by the
 wayside.  how can I
 help?
 
 From: Dennis Laganiere 
 Reply-To: Dennis Laganiere 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
 Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:02:02 GMT
 
 Paul...
 
 Many of us feel the same way.  If you setup a paypal account,
 I think
 you'll
 find a lot of us will help to defray some of your expenses...
 
 Thanks for all your efforts...
 
 --- Dennis
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Walker, James, IS
 To:
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:32 AM
 Subject: RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
 
 
   Paul,
  
   Can we help you out with this great service you are
 providing to us by
   making a
   small donation?
   I know I'm not alone when I say that your service has been
 invaluable to
 us
   in
   the Ciscos of the world.
  
   Thanks,
   Jim
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:29 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
  
  
   Hey Everyone,
  
  
  
   We will be moving the mailing list function to a new
 server.  If you are
   currently receiving this list via e-mail, you will be
 affected.  This
   has been planned for some time now but we need to move
 faster then I
   would like.  I just received a bill from our co-location
 facility for
   the GroupStudy service and let's just put it this way, in
 most locations
   rent on a two bedroom apartment is less expensive.  So we
 need to try
   and reduce our bandwidth usage (an eventually find another
 co-location
   facility).
  
  
  
   It has been quite clear for some time now that the
 GroupStudy server
   needs help.  We are dropping an unacceptable number of
 messages (I
   personally have had five in a row discarded) and the
 messages that make
   it take a random amount of time to propagate.  To fix this,
 I have
   purchased a new server and bandwidth (at a lower cost
 facility).  We
   will be migrating to the new server in the next few days. 
 Once the move
   is complete we will cut over to the new server.
  
  
  
   But wait it gets better .. We are dumping majordomo as our
 list
   software!  Our new software will allow you to change a
 number of
   options.  For example you will be able to suspend
 distribution of the
   e-mails, receive e-mails in digest format, change your
 e-mail address,
   etc.
  
  
  
   You will receive a welcome message with your account
 information.   The
  
   message will contain your username/password, instructions
 on how to
   login to the server, and instructions on how to
 unsubscribe.  Please
   save this e-mail for future reference.  It is also a good
 idea to login
   to the server and set your password to something more
 memorable then the
   random password given.
  
  
  
   If you stop receiving e-mails from the list after the
 change, please
   send me an e-mail (after verifying it is not a problem at
 your end such
   as misconfigured anti-spam software etc.).
  
  
  
   Take care,
  
  
  
   Paul Borghese
 _
 MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*  
 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
 
 




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RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

2003-07-14 Thread Juan Blanco
Buddy.
The same thing from here, let us know the account and we will pitch in.A
mind is a beautiful thing to wasteand this newsgroup is to great to
waste.
Juan Blanco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]


I'll pitch in. This is a good list..

Jamie

Eagles Fan wrote:

 Right on that one!!  don't want this list to go by the
 wayside.  how can I
 help?

 From: Dennis Laganiere
 Reply-To: Dennis Laganiere
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
 Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:02:02 GMT
 
 Paul...
 
 Many of us feel the same way.  If you setup a paypal account,
 I think
 you'll
 find a lot of us will help to defray some of your expenses...
 
 Thanks for all your efforts...
 
 --- Dennis
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Walker, James, IS
 To:
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:32 AM
 Subject: RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
 
 
   Paul,
  
   Can we help you out with this great service you are
 providing to us by
   making a
   small donation?
   I know I'm not alone when I say that your service has been
 invaluable to
 us
   in
   the Ciscos of the world.
  
   Thanks,
   Jim
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:29 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
  
  
   Hey Everyone,
  
  
  
   We will be moving the mailing list function to a new
 server.  If you are
   currently receiving this list via e-mail, you will be
 affected.  This
   has been planned for some time now but we need to move
 faster then I
   would like.  I just received a bill from our co-location
 facility for
   the GroupStudy service and let's just put it this way, in
 most locations
   rent on a two bedroom apartment is less expensive.  So we
 need to try
   and reduce our bandwidth usage (an eventually find another
 co-location
   facility).
  
  
  
   It has been quite clear for some time now that the
 GroupStudy server
   needs help.  We are dropping an unacceptable number of
 messages (I
   personally have had five in a row discarded) and the
 messages that make
   it take a random amount of time to propagate.  To fix this,
 I have
   purchased a new server and bandwidth (at a lower cost
 facility).  We
   will be migrating to the new server in the next few days.
 Once the move
   is complete we will cut over to the new server.
  
  
  
   But wait it gets better .. We are dumping majordomo as our
 list
   software!  Our new software will allow you to change a
 number of
   options.  For example you will be able to suspend
 distribution of the
   e-mails, receive e-mails in digest format, change your
 e-mail address,
   etc.
  
  
  
   You will receive a welcome message with your account
 information.   The
  
   message will contain your username/password, instructions
 on how to
   login to the server, and instructions on how to
 unsubscribe.  Please
   save this e-mail for future reference.  It is also a good
 idea to login
   to the server and set your password to something more
 memorable then the
   random password given.
  
  
  
   If you stop receiving e-mails from the list after the
 change, please
   send me an e-mail (after verifying it is not a problem at
 your end such
   as misconfigured anti-spam software etc.).
  
  
  
   Take care,
  
  
  
   Paul Borghese
 _
 MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*
 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus




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RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

2003-07-14 Thread Paul Borghese
Thanks everyone for your offer ... but as of now I am trying to avoid
donations.  Frankly I do not think donations will cover the cost of running
GroupStudy.  Plus it will make my job 10x more difficult.

Every day I help people with subscription issues associated with GroupStudy.
Most people are pleasant, gracious, and understanding that I do this as a
hobby.  

But two or three times a week I receive an e-mail from someone or some
organization demanding I drop everything I am doing and fix whatever problem
they are having with GroupStudy.  They act as if they are paying a fortune
for the service and somehow they have a given right to participate in
GroupStudy.  In the end it is almost always an internal problem within their
organization (i.e. anti-spam filters, firewalling issues, etc.).  I can not
imagine what it would be like if those people had actually give some token
donation to GroupStudy.

So what can we do?  First we do sell banner advertising on GroupStudy.
Please remember to try and support our sponsors or maybe just send a note
saying you will keep them in mind in the future.

I also like the amazon.com model where when people purchase via GroupStudy
they get the same price but we get a kickback.  Frankly the bookstore needs
to be updated.  Anyone want to help out in that regard?

Finally I am working on a new project where I plan to take the amazon.com
model and expand it to Cisco certification products.  The idea is we will
resell Cisco certification products on GroupStudy with a percentage of the
sales going towards GroupStudy.  I am hoping to be up later this week
(assuming I can get the merchant account finalized).  If you are in the
market for certification products (workbooks, practice tests, etc.) please
keep us in mind.  

If there is a particular vendor or product you think we should resell, give
me a shout!

Take care,

Paul Borghese





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Eagles Fan
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

Right on that one!!  don't want this list to go by the wayside.  how can I 
help?

From: Dennis Laganiere 
Reply-To: Dennis Laganiere 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:02:02 GMT

Paul...

Many of us feel the same way.  If you setup a paypal account, I think 
you'll
find a lot of us will help to defray some of your expenses...

Thanks for all your efforts...

--- Dennis

- Original Message -
From: Walker, James, IS
To:
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]


  Paul,
 
  Can we help you out with this great service you are providing to us by
  making a
  small donation?
  I know I'm not alone when I say that your service has been invaluable to
us
  in
  the Ciscos of the world.
 
  Thanks,
  Jim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:29 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
 
 
  Hey Everyone,
 
 
 
  We will be moving the mailing list function to a new server.  If you are
  currently receiving this list via e-mail, you will be affected.  This
  has been planned for some time now but we need to move faster then I
  would like.  I just received a bill from our co-location facility for
  the GroupStudy service and let's just put it this way, in most locations
  rent on a two bedroom apartment is less expensive.  So we need to try
  and reduce our bandwidth usage (an eventually find another co-location
  facility).
 
 
 
  It has been quite clear for some time now that the GroupStudy server
  needs help.  We are dropping an unacceptable number of messages (I
  personally have had five in a row discarded) and the messages that make
  it take a random amount of time to propagate.  To fix this, I have
  purchased a new server and bandwidth (at a lower cost facility).  We
  will be migrating to the new server in the next few days.  Once the move
  is complete we will cut over to the new server.
 
 
 
  But wait it gets better .. We are dumping majordomo as our list
  software!  Our new software will allow you to change a number of
  options.  For example you will be able to suspend distribution of the
  e-mails, receive e-mails in digest format, change your e-mail address,
  etc.
 
 
 
  You will receive a welcome message with your account information.   The
 
  message will contain your username/password, instructions on how to
  login to the server, and instructions on how to unsubscribe.  Please
  save this e-mail for future reference.  It is also a good idea to login
  to the server and set your password to something more memorable then the
  random password given.
 
 
 
  If you stop receiving e-mails from the list after the change, please
  send me an e-mail (after

RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

2003-07-14 Thread Reimer, Fred
For the love of God don't change to the same software that the HP OpenView
forum did.  I'd personally vote for keeping with majordomo..

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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   But wait it gets better .. We are dumping majordomo as our
 list
   software!  Our new software will allow you to change a
 number of
   options.  For example you will be able to suspend
 distribution of the
   e-mails, receive e-mails in digest format, change your
 e-mail address,
   etc.
  
  
  
   Paul Borghese
 _
 MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*  
 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus




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RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

2003-07-14 Thread Paul Borghese
Hi Elijah,

We actually have two of the GroupStudy servers at RackShack.  Great product
if you do not have any problems and do not mind the occasional down time ...
but watch out if you have a problem.  Pretty much you are unable to actually
talk with someone in the network operations center.  Their support consists
of simply rebooting the box or reinstalling the OS.  They are unwilling to
hook a monitor to the box and actually take a look at why the box is down.
One of the GroupStudy servers would randomly go down not responding to any
requests outside of a ping.  It turned out one of the memory chips that they
provided was bad.  But because I could not get someone to actually hook a
monitor to the box when it was in this down state, it took months to
troubleshoot.

Having said all of that, I am moving the mailing list function to RackShack
(hence the reason for this thread).  The CCIE Lab list has been on a server
for a few weeks now without incident.  I simply can not afford to pay the
rates at the other co-location facilities.  

I hope we are not there too long.  Prices are coming down at co-location
facilities.  I can get 1/2 a cabinet and 1 Mb of bandwidth for about
$750~$800/month plus the cost of the servers.  My dream is to have all
GroupStudy servers in one location which is in driving distant to my house
.. and maybe even have a load-balancer in case a server goes down.

Take care,

Paul


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Elijah Savage
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

Paul,

I do not know if you have found a collocation place already but here is
a very nice and reputable one at a price I think is very affordable. I
know a few people using this facility and the bandwidth is amazing. I
know someone using the 99$ package for a ftp server and you get 700gig a
month in this package.

Hopefully this helps and yes a paypal account is a good idea to accept
donations.

http://www.rackshack.net

Not affiliated in any way with this place.




-Original Message-
From: Eagles Fan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

Right on that one!!  don't want this list to go by the wayside.  how can
I 
help?

From: Dennis Laganiere 
Reply-To: Dennis Laganiere 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:02:02 GMT

Paul...

Many of us feel the same way.  If you setup a paypal account, I think 
you'll
find a lot of us will help to defray some of your expenses...

Thanks for all your efforts...

--- Dennis

- Original Message -
From: Walker, James, IS
To:
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]


  Paul,
 
  Can we help you out with this great service you are providing to us
by
  making a
  small donation?
  I know I'm not alone when I say that your service has been
invaluable to
us
  in
  the Ciscos of the world.
 
  Thanks,
  Jim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:29 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
 
 
  Hey Everyone,
 
 
 
  We will be moving the mailing list function to a new server.  If you
are
  currently receiving this list via e-mail, you will be affected.
This
  has been planned for some time now but we need to move faster then I
  would like.  I just received a bill from our co-location facility
for
  the GroupStudy service and let's just put it this way, in most
locations
  rent on a two bedroom apartment is less expensive.  So we need to
try
  and reduce our bandwidth usage (an eventually find another
co-location
  facility).
 
 
 
  It has been quite clear for some time now that the GroupStudy server
  needs help.  We are dropping an unacceptable number of messages (I
  personally have had five in a row discarded) and the messages that
make
  it take a random amount of time to propagate.  To fix this, I have
  purchased a new server and bandwidth (at a lower cost facility).  We
  will be migrating to the new server in the next few days.  Once the
move
  is complete we will cut over to the new server.
 
 
 
  But wait it gets better .. We are dumping majordomo as our list
  software!  Our new software will allow you to change a number of
  options.  For example you will be able to suspend distribution of
the
  e-mails, receive e-mails in digest format, change your e-mail
address,
  etc.
 
 
 
  You will receive a welcome message with your account information.
The
 
  message will contain your username/password, instructions on how to
  login to the server, and instructions on how to unsubscribe.  Please
  save this e-mail for future reference.  It is also a good idea to
login

RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

2003-07-14 Thread John Neiberger
Heck, for that much can't you just get a T-1 into your house??  ;-) If you
can keep all your kids away from the servers that would be a great solution!
 

John

 Paul Borghese 7/14/03 1:30:18 PM 
Hi Elijah,

We actually have two of the GroupStudy servers at RackShack.  Great product
if you do not have any problems and do not mind the occasional down time
..
but watch out if you have a problem.  Pretty much you are unable to
actually
talk with someone in the network operations center.  Their support consists
of simply rebooting the box or reinstalling the OS.  They are unwilling to
hook a monitor to the box and actually take a look at why the box is down.
One of the GroupStudy servers would randomly go down not responding to any
requests outside of a ping.  It turned out one of the memory chips that
they
provided was bad.  But because I could not get someone to actually hook a
monitor to the box when it was in this down state, it took months to
troubleshoot.

Having said all of that, I am moving the mailing list function to RackShack
(hence the reason for this thread).  The CCIE Lab list has been on a server
for a few weeks now without incident.  I simply can not afford to pay the
rates at the other co-location facilities.  

I hope we are not there too long.  Prices are coming down at co-location
facilities.  I can get 1/2 a cabinet and 1 Mb of bandwidth for about
$750~$800/month plus the cost of the servers.  My dream is to have all
GroupStudy servers in one location which is in driving distant to my house
. and maybe even have a load-balancer in case a server goes down.

Take care,

Paul


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Elijah Savage
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

Paul,

I do not know if you have found a collocation place already but here is
a very nice and reputable one at a price I think is very affordable. I
know a few people using this facility and the bandwidth is amazing. I
know someone using the 99$ package for a ftp server and you get 700gig a
month in this package.

Hopefully this helps and yes a paypal account is a good idea to accept
donations.

http://www.rackshack.net 

Not affiliated in any way with this place.




-Original Message-
From: Eagles Fan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

Right on that one!!  don't want this list to go by the wayside.  how can
I 
help?

From: Dennis Laganiere 
Reply-To: Dennis Laganiere 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:02:02 GMT

Paul...

Many of us feel the same way.  If you setup a paypal account, I think 
you'll
find a lot of us will help to defray some of your expenses...

Thanks for all your efforts...

--- Dennis

- Original Message -
From: Walker, James, IS
To:
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]


  Paul,
 
  Can we help you out with this great service you are providing to us
by
  making a
  small donation?
  I know I'm not alone when I say that your service has been
invaluable to
us
  in
  the Ciscos of the world.
 
  Thanks,
  Jim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:29 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
 
 
  Hey Everyone,
 
 
 
  We will be moving the mailing list function to a new server.  If you
are
  currently receiving this list via e-mail, you will be affected.
This
  has been planned for some time now but we need to move faster then I
  would like.  I just received a bill from our co-location facility
for
  the GroupStudy service and let's just put it this way, in most
locations
  rent on a two bedroom apartment is less expensive.  So we need to
try
  and reduce our bandwidth usage (an eventually find another
co-location
  facility).
 
 
 
  It has been quite clear for some time now that the GroupStudy server
  needs help.  We are dropping an unacceptable number of messages (I
  personally have had five in a row discarded) and the messages that
make
  it take a random amount of time to propagate.  To fix this, I have
  purchased a new server and bandwidth (at a lower cost facility).  We
  will be migrating to the new server in the next few days.  Once the
move
  is complete we will cut over to the new server.
 
 
 
  But wait it gets better .. We are dumping majordomo as our list
  software!  Our new software will allow you to change a number of
  options.  For example you will be able to suspend distribution of
the
  e-mails, receive e-mails in digest format, change your e-mail
address,
  etc.
 
 
 
  You will receive a welcome message with your account information.
The
 
  message will contain

Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

2003-07-12 Thread Dennis Laganiere
Paul...

Many of us feel the same way.  If you setup a paypal account, I think you'll
find a lot of us will help to defray some of your expenses...

Thanks for all your efforts...

--- Dennis

- Original Message -
From: Walker, James, IS 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]


 Paul,

 Can we help you out with this great service you are providing to us by
 making a
 small donation?
 I know I'm not alone when I say that your service has been invaluable to
us
 in
 the Ciscos of the world.

 Thanks,
 Jim

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:29 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]


 Hey Everyone,



 We will be moving the mailing list function to a new server.  If you are
 currently receiving this list via e-mail, you will be affected.  This
 has been planned for some time now but we need to move faster then I
 would like.  I just received a bill from our co-location facility for
 the GroupStudy service and let's just put it this way, in most locations
 rent on a two bedroom apartment is less expensive.  So we need to try
 and reduce our bandwidth usage (an eventually find another co-location
 facility).



 It has been quite clear for some time now that the GroupStudy server
 needs help.  We are dropping an unacceptable number of messages (I
 personally have had five in a row discarded) and the messages that make
 it take a random amount of time to propagate.  To fix this, I have
 purchased a new server and bandwidth (at a lower cost facility).  We
 will be migrating to the new server in the next few days.  Once the move
 is complete we will cut over to the new server.



 But wait it gets better .. We are dumping majordomo as our list
 software!  Our new software will allow you to change a number of
 options.  For example you will be able to suspend distribution of the
 e-mails, receive e-mails in digest format, change your e-mail address,
 etc.



 You will receive a welcome message with your account information.   The

 message will contain your username/password, instructions on how to
 login to the server, and instructions on how to unsubscribe.  Please
 save this e-mail for future reference.  It is also a good idea to login
 to the server and set your password to something more memorable then the
 random password given.



 If you stop receiving e-mails from the list after the change, please
 send me an e-mail (after verifying it is not a problem at your end such
 as misconfigured anti-spam software etc.).



 Take care,



 Paul Borghese




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Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

2003-07-12 Thread Eagles Fan
Right on that one!!  don't want this list to go by the wayside.  how can I 
help?

From: Dennis Laganiere 
Reply-To: Dennis Laganiere 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:02:02 GMT

Paul...

Many of us feel the same way.  If you setup a paypal account, I think 
you'll
find a lot of us will help to defray some of your expenses...

Thanks for all your efforts...

--- Dennis

- Original Message -
From: Walker, James, IS
To:
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]


  Paul,
 
  Can we help you out with this great service you are providing to us by
  making a
  small donation?
  I know I'm not alone when I say that your service has been invaluable to
us
  in
  the Ciscos of the world.
 
  Thanks,
  Jim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:29 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]
 
 
  Hey Everyone,
 
 
 
  We will be moving the mailing list function to a new server.  If you are
  currently receiving this list via e-mail, you will be affected.  This
  has been planned for some time now but we need to move faster then I
  would like.  I just received a bill from our co-location facility for
  the GroupStudy service and let's just put it this way, in most locations
  rent on a two bedroom apartment is less expensive.  So we need to try
  and reduce our bandwidth usage (an eventually find another co-location
  facility).
 
 
 
  It has been quite clear for some time now that the GroupStudy server
  needs help.  We are dropping an unacceptable number of messages (I
  personally have had five in a row discarded) and the messages that make
  it take a random amount of time to propagate.  To fix this, I have
  purchased a new server and bandwidth (at a lower cost facility).  We
  will be migrating to the new server in the next few days.  Once the move
  is complete we will cut over to the new server.
 
 
 
  But wait it gets better .. We are dumping majordomo as our list
  software!  Our new software will allow you to change a number of
  options.  For example you will be able to suspend distribution of the
  e-mails, receive e-mails in digest format, change your e-mail address,
  etc.
 
 
 
  You will receive a welcome message with your account information.   The
 
  message will contain your username/password, instructions on how to
  login to the server, and instructions on how to unsubscribe.  Please
  save this e-mail for future reference.  It is also a good idea to login
  to the server and set your password to something more memorable then the
  random password given.
 
 
 
  If you stop receiving e-mails from the list after the change, please
  send me an e-mail (after verifying it is not a problem at your end such
  as misconfigured anti-spam software etc.).
 
 
 
  Take care,
 
 
 
  Paul Borghese
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RE: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

2003-07-11 Thread Walker, James, IS
Paul,

Can we help you out with this great service you are providing to us by
making a
small donation?
I know I'm not alone when I say that your service has been invaluable to us
in
the Ciscos of the world.

Thanks,
Jim

-Original Message-
From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]


Hey Everyone,

 

We will be moving the mailing list function to a new server.  If you are
currently receiving this list via e-mail, you will be affected.  This
has been planned for some time now but we need to move faster then I
would like.  I just received a bill from our co-location facility for
the GroupStudy service and let's just put it this way, in most locations
rent on a two bedroom apartment is less expensive.  So we need to try
and reduce our bandwidth usage (an eventually find another co-location
facility).

 

It has been quite clear for some time now that the GroupStudy server
needs help.  We are dropping an unacceptable number of messages (I
personally have had five in a row discarded) and the messages that make
it take a random amount of time to propagate.  To fix this, I have
purchased a new server and bandwidth (at a lower cost facility).  We
will be migrating to the new server in the next few days.  Once the move
is complete we will cut over to the new server.

 

But wait it gets better .. We are dumping majordomo as our list
software!  Our new software will allow you to change a number of
options.  For example you will be able to suspend distribution of the
e-mails, receive e-mails in digest format, change your e-mail address,
etc.

 

You will receive a welcome message with your account information.   The

message will contain your username/password, instructions on how to
login to the server, and instructions on how to unsubscribe.  Please
save this e-mail for future reference.  It is also a good idea to login
to the server and set your password to something more memorable then the
random password given.

 

If you stop receiving e-mails from the list after the change, please
send me an e-mail (after verifying it is not a problem at your end such
as misconfigured anti-spam software etc.).

 

Take care,

 

Paul Borghese




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We (Cisco mailing list) are moving ... [7:72060]

2003-07-09 Thread Paul Borghese
Hey Everyone,

 

We will be moving the mailing list function to a new server.  If you are
currently receiving this list via e-mail, you will be affected.  This
has been planned for some time now but we need to move faster then I
would like.  I just received a bill from our co-location facility for
the GroupStudy service and let's just put it this way, in most locations
rent on a two bedroom apartment is less expensive.  So we need to try
and reduce our bandwidth usage (an eventually find another co-location
facility).

 

It has been quite clear for some time now that the GroupStudy server
needs help.  We are dropping an unacceptable number of messages (I
personally have had five in a row discarded) and the messages that make
it take a random amount of time to propagate.  To fix this, I have
purchased a new server and bandwidth (at a lower cost facility).  We
will be migrating to the new server in the next few days.  Once the move
is complete we will cut over to the new server.

 

But wait it gets better .. We are dumping majordomo as our list
software!  Our new software will allow you to change a number of
options.  For example you will be able to suspend distribution of the
e-mails, receive e-mails in digest format, change your e-mail address,
etc.

 

You will receive a welcome message with your account information.   The

message will contain your username/password, instructions on how to
login to the server, and instructions on how to unsubscribe.  Please
save this e-mail for future reference.  It is also a good idea to login
to the server and set your password to something more memorable then the
random password given.

 

If you stop receiving e-mails from the list after the change, please
send me an e-mail (after verifying it is not a problem at your end such
as misconfigured anti-spam software etc.).

 

Take care,

 

Paul Borghese




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