Re: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message news:200210252303.XAA06341;groupstudy.com... Tim Medley wrote: Oh did they mean to redesign the website? I thought some script kiddies defaced it and Cisco hadn't had time to fix it. Nope, marketing kiddies! ;-) Priscilla Oh. Script kiddies with incompetent adult supervision. CL: all in good fun so far, but I am starting to run into some real issues. I work for one of Cisco's largest partners, and my CCO account gives me access to a number of partner specific areas that I use regularly. I was working on something for a client, was sent a link by Cisco pre-sales ( partner only information link ) and I have been unable to get in. Let's see - fifteen email messages later we fixed it try - grrr no you didn't ... try it now ,,, still doesn't work and I am giving up. What's more irritating is that every time I respond to their automated e-mail, I get a reply that says write your comments between the lines ( special formatting ) Thing is, on the original e-mail, these formatting lines do not exist. CL: I can live with the marketing crap. I can live with the colors. I can't live with the loss of certain functionality. CL: I will say that if you dig around, there can be a lot more and a lot better information to be found. CL: I can also say with assurance that there are some tools, like the configurator, which still need a LOT of work. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56326t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
It stinks, it doesn't even use the same look throughout, why bother? Tim Metz wrote in message news:200210250414.EAA05528;groupstudy.com... I used to bitch about the old one and am now totally screwed... I guess I'll learn to like it ;-( Tim sam sneed wrote in message news:200210241956.TAA01985;groupstudy.com... Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56263t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
u can still acces the old site try this url http://www.cisco.com/cco.shtml -Original Message- From: Tim Metz [mailto:timmetz;hotmail.com] Sent: 25 October 2002 06:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236] I used to bitch about the old one and am now totally screwed... I guess I'll learn to like it ;-( Tim sam sneed wrote in message news:200210241956.TAA01985;groupstudy.com... Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56266t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
I agree. I prefer the old one. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I agree, it is horrible, absolutely horrible. -Original Message- From: sam sneed [mailto:vristevski;hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236] Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56275t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
It's awful. Unless I make an extremely tiny font, I have to scroll to get to the search function, which I would swear now has a smaller entry field. There's no obvious place to link directly to a search page. Navigation other than search is also rather strange. So, I filled out the feedback form about the page. What happened when I hit submit? Internal server error. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56277t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
At 9:37 AM + 10/25/02, Tshepo Kowane (TO) wrote: u can still acces the old site try this url http://www.cisco.com/cco.shtml THANK YOU! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56278t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
Well, a few work arounds. You can just go straight to the documentation CD (right now the site seems down for me, ugh, so I cannot verify 100%, the links are pretty close, and if you navigate hard enough it really just links back to the universal cd anyway) http://www.cisco.com/univercd/ OR just go to the bottom right and click on GO TO THE OLD SITE. And presto you get your old site back. Ironically it usually takes a very long time to load the old site As for general navigation, if you guys want to find docs, I think it was under support, hardware (for stuff like the pix) and software for IOS, then you can drill down and one of them eventually brings you back to the universal cd. ;) While I hate it too, but come on guys we are powerful Cisco Study candidates, we should be able to solve anything that comes up quickly! If we can crunch Cisco problems we can navigate this new nasty site as well! :) I used to bitch about the old one and am now totally screwed... I guess I'll learn to like it ;-( Tim sam sneed wrote in message news:200210241956.TAA01985;groupstudy.com... Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56282t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
I can't get to cisco.com either, must be down. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy Cunctando Restituit Rem Carroll Kong wrote: Well, a few work arounds. You can just go straight to the documentation CD (right now the site seems down for me, ugh, so I cannot verify 100%, the links are pretty close, and if you navigate hard enough it really just links back to the universal cd anyway) http://www.cisco.com/univercd/ OR just go to the bottom right and click on GO TO THE OLD SITE. And presto you get your old site back. Ironically it usually takes a very long time to load the old site As for general navigation, if you guys want to find docs, I think it was under support, hardware (for stuff like the pix) and software for IOS, then you can drill down and one of them eventually brings you back to the universal cd. ;) While I hate it too, but come on guys we are powerful Cisco Study candidates, we should be able to solve anything that comes up quickly! If we can crunch Cisco problems we can navigate this new nasty site as well! :) I used to bitch about the old one and am now totally screwed... I guess I'll learn to like it ;-( Tim sam sneed wrote in message news:200210241956.TAA01985;groupstudy.com... Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. -Carroll Kong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56286t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
Oh did they mean to redesign the website? I thought some script kiddies defaced it and Cisco hadn't had time to fix it. tm Tim Medley, CCNP+Voice, CCDP, CWNA Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: sam sneed [mailto:vristevski;hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236] Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56254t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
lol...I wouldnt say I hate it, it just takes a little getting used to. Or maybe they just want you to spend more time on the website and less time looking at the current stock price??? :) -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 sam sneed wrote in message news:200210241956.TAA01985;groupstudy.com... Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56248t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
I'm not too fond of the snot green color that was obviously taken from the color of their cables! :-) Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Tim Medley [mailto:tim.medley;ireadyworld.com] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236] Oh did they mean to redesign the website? I thought some script kiddies defaced it and Cisco hadn't had time to fix it. tm Tim Medley, CCNP+Voice, CCDP, CWNA Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: sam sneed [mailto:vristevski;hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236] Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56318t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
Tim Medley wrote: Oh did they mean to redesign the website? I thought some script kiddies defaced it and Cisco hadn't had time to fix it. Nope, marketing kiddies! ;-) Priscilla tm Tim Medley, CCNP+Voice, CCDP, CWNA Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: sam sneed [mailto:vristevski;hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236] Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56308t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
So its not just me, thats good to know Kaminski, Shawn G wrote in message news:200210252049.UAA17577;groupstudy.com... I'm not too fond of the snot green color that was obviously taken from the color of their cables! :-) Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Tim Medley [mailto:tim.medley;ireadyworld.com] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236] Oh did they mean to redesign the website? I thought some script kiddies defaced it and Cisco hadn't had time to fix it. tm Tim Medley, CCNP+Voice, CCDP, CWNA Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: sam sneed [mailto:vristevski;hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236] Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56321t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
Tim Medley wrote: Oh did they mean to redesign the website? I thought some script kiddies defaced it and Cisco hadn't had time to fix it. Nope, marketing kiddies! ;-) Priscilla Oh. Script kiddies with incompetent adult supervision. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56323t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
THANK YOUU. I wonder how long they will have this one up for.Can we do something about it :( Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 9:37 AM + 10/25/02, Tshepo Kowane (TO) wrote: u can still acces the old site try this url http://www.cisco.com/cco.shtml THANK YOU! Raul Renteria (CCNA,CCDA,CCNP) DJ1Integration. NY,NY. 10016 - Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56324t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
I'm with you, Mr. Sneed. I've even had an email conversation with someone at Cisco where I detailed why I hate their new site. They have good intentions and I think once they're completely finished it will be nice, but at the moment it's hard to navigate. I suggested that they allow us to create our own stylized home pages and she said they are already working on that. I would love to have that! My home page would consist of: Software Center TAC Pricing Tool Service Contract Center Technical Docs And that's about it. I'd love to get rid of all the junk they use to clutter up the main page. sam sneed 10/24/02 1:56:01 PM Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56238t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56236t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
I'm getting used to finding stuff but I really dislike the small font, hard to read!! Dave sam sneed wrote: Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. --Winston Churchill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56241t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
I agree, it is horrible, absolutely horrible. -Original Message- From: sam sneed [mailto:vristevski;hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236] Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56246t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
You are by no means the only one. I'm composing a letter to our SE detailing the many ways in which the new site hinders both troubleshooting and fact-finding. Now, it appears to be a lot more marketing and significantly less technical. For example, the way they have classified everything into software, hardware and technology is at best obtuse. How many people trying to troubleshoot/optimize their infrastructure want to wander around until they find the appropriate tech note? Wouldn't it be simpler and easier to have it the way it used to be, by product (e.g. CallManager) or by technology (e.g. EIGRP)? If enough of us complain, perhaps they'll change it back. I also think a SlashApp-like RSS feed from CCO would be pretty nice... Cheers all. Paul Forbes Network Engineer Trimble +1.408.481.8291 -Original Message- From: sam sneed [mailto:vristevski;hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236] Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56249t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hate cisco's new site? [7:56236]
I used to bitch about the old one and am now totally screwed... I guess I'll learn to like it ;-( Tim sam sneed wrote in message news:200210241956.TAA01985;groupstudy.com... Am I the only one that hates Cisco's new site? I can't find anything that I'm looking for on the there. Its driving me up the wall. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56260t=56236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
