Re: management platforms [7:49042]
That's a good justification. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Roberts, Larry wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... If the Wan Guys were the only one who could access the NMS, then I would agree, but giving others access to our Routers scares me. We started adding some of our Lan Guys to the Whats Up message group, and we ending up getting flooded with questions with every message that went out. I shiver at the thought of the calls we would get when someone looked at the map and thought they noticed a problem. Now to be fair, most of the guys are pretty good about not panicing, but the few that doman do they panic. I also hate the thought of adding another server to the mix. We have a really smooth system where, CW2K monitors changes, what's up tells us what's down ( I think they got the name wrong on their product :) and solarwinds gives us utilization stats. I have tried to figure out what adding OpenView would give us that we don't already have, but I cant think of any right off the top of my head. Im just having a hard time justifing the extra product that I cant see that we need. Thanks to all for the input! Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: management platforms [7:49042] You would be going against conventional wisdom, Cisco's Kool-ade and every other help-desk manager. I think one platform SHOULD manage all the stuf. Roberts, Larry wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Guys, I'm trying to justify why I don't want a single management platform for all our servers, as well as our routers and switches. We are 2 distinct group with no cross-functionality between the Wan group and the Server group. Our Server guys are trying to purchase OpenView to manage it all, but we already have a fully functional CW2K installation And don't see the advantages of using OpenView. I'm looking for all of your experiences and recommendations for and against a single platform. We use CW2K,Solarwinds and What's Up currently to manage and report on up/down and utilization.. Thanks Larry Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49109t=49042 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: management platforms [7:49042]
Have the server group looked into NetIQ? It's great for managing/monitor NT servers and it'll probably do a better job than OpenView because it monitors the hardware of the server as well the applications running on them. - Original Message - From: Roberts, Larry To: Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:00 PM Subject: RE: management platforms [7:49042] If the Wan Guys were the only one who could access the NMS, then I would agree, but giving others access to our Routers scares me. We started adding some of our Lan Guys to the Whats Up message group, and we ending up getting flooded with questions with every message that went out. I shiver at the thought of the calls we would get when someone looked at the map and thought they noticed a problem. Now to be fair, most of the guys are pretty good about not panicing, but the few that doman do they panic. I also hate the thought of adding another server to the mix. We have a really smooth system where, CW2K monitors changes, what's up tells us what's down ( I think they got the name wrong on their product :) and solarwinds gives us utilization stats. I have tried to figure out what adding OpenView would give us that we don't already have, but I cant think of any right off the top of my head. Im just having a hard time justifing the extra product that I cant see that we need. Thanks to all for the input! Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: management platforms [7:49042] You would be going against conventional wisdom, Cisco's Kool-ade and every other help-desk manager. I think one platform SHOULD manage all the stuf. Roberts, Larry wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Guys, I'm trying to justify why I don't want a single management platform for all our servers, as well as our routers and switches. We are 2 distinct group with no cross-functionality between the Wan group and the Server group. Our Server guys are trying to purchase OpenView to manage it all, but we already have a fully functional CW2K installation And don't see the advantages of using OpenView. I'm looking for all of your experiences and recommendations for and against a single platform. We use CW2K,Solarwinds and What's Up currently to manage and report on up/down and utilization.. Thanks Larry Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49138t=49042 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: management platforms [7:49042]
Guys, I'm trying to justify why I don't want a single management platform for all our servers, as well as our routers and switches. We are 2 distinct group with no cross-functionality between the Wan group and the Server group. Our Server guys are trying to purchase OpenView to manage it all, but we already have a fully functional CW2K installation And don't see the advantages of using OpenView. I'm looking for all of your experiences and recommendations for and against a single platform. We use CW2K,Solarwinds and What's Up currently to manage and report on up/down and utilization.. Thanks Larry Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49042t=49042 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: management platforms [7:49042]
You would be going against conventional wisdom, Cisco's Kool-ade and every other help-desk manager. I think one platform SHOULD manage all the stuf. Roberts, Larry wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Guys, I'm trying to justify why I don't want a single management platform for all our servers, as well as our routers and switches. We are 2 distinct group with no cross-functionality between the Wan group and the Server group. Our Server guys are trying to purchase OpenView to manage it all, but we already have a fully functional CW2K installation And don't see the advantages of using OpenView. I'm looking for all of your experiences and recommendations for and against a single platform. We use CW2K,Solarwinds and What's Up currently to manage and report on up/down and utilization.. Thanks Larry Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49074t=49042 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: management platforms [7:49042]
If the Wan Guys were the only one who could access the NMS, then I would agree, but giving others access to our Routers scares me. We started adding some of our Lan Guys to the Whats Up message group, and we ending up getting flooded with questions with every message that went out. I shiver at the thought of the calls we would get when someone looked at the map and thought they noticed a problem. Now to be fair, most of the guys are pretty good about not panicing, but the few that doman do they panic. I also hate the thought of adding another server to the mix. We have a really smooth system where, CW2K monitors changes, what's up tells us what's down ( I think they got the name wrong on their product :) and solarwinds gives us utilization stats. I have tried to figure out what adding OpenView would give us that we don't already have, but I cant think of any right off the top of my head. Im just having a hard time justifing the extra product that I cant see that we need. Thanks to all for the input! Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: management platforms [7:49042] You would be going against conventional wisdom, Cisco's Kool-ade and every other help-desk manager. I think one platform SHOULD manage all the stuf. Roberts, Larry wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Guys, I'm trying to justify why I don't want a single management platform for all our servers, as well as our routers and switches. We are 2 distinct group with no cross-functionality between the Wan group and the Server group. Our Server guys are trying to purchase OpenView to manage it all, but we already have a fully functional CW2K installation And don't see the advantages of using OpenView. I'm looking for all of your experiences and recommendations for and against a single platform. We use CW2K,Solarwinds and What's Up currently to manage and report on up/down and utilization.. Thanks Larry Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49097t=49042 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
