Re: smallest BGP Network size

2001-03-13 Thread rafdian

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for your loadbalancing and multihomed problem, i suggest you to try this
equipement:
http://www.ecreate.com.cn/radware/lp/LinkProof.htm
raf

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From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gary Crouch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: smallest BGP Network size


>We are also multihomed to separate providers.  When researching our plans,
I
>found that a /24 was about as small as you could go and still have a chance
>of being reachable from most of the internet.  One provider required that
we
>have at least a /24, and the other highly recommended it.
>
>Even if both of your providers will accept something smaller, they have no
>control over what other providers will do to your routes.  With anything
>smaller than a /24 they will probably be filtered, as you seem to be
>noticing.
>
>HTH,
>John
>
>On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:35:42 -0800, Gary Crouch wrote:
>
>>  What is the smallest network that can support BGP ?
>>  we have a /27 network with two ISP UUNET and @work=20
>>  when the router is full configured for load balancing traffic going out
=
>>  the @work connection does not come back
>>  router reports destionation net unreachable
>>
>>  UUNET say /27 is not a problem=20
>>  @work say we need a least a /24 network=20
>>
>>  when UUNET fail over we have no traffic come back over the @work
>connection=
>>  .
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>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  What is the smallest network that can support BGP
>>  ?
>>  we have a /27 network with two ISP UUNET and @work
>>  
>>  when the router is full configured for load balancing
>traffic
>>  going out the @work connection does not come back
>>  router reports destionation net
>unreachable
>>   
>>  UUNET say /27 is not a problem 
>>  @work say we need a least a /24 network 
>>   
>>  when UUNET fail over we have no traffic come back over
>the
>>  @work connection.
>>   
>>   
>>   
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Re: smallest BGP Network size

2001-03-12 Thread John Neiberger

We are also multihomed to separate providers.  When researching our plans, I
found that a /24 was about as small as you could go and still have a chance
of being reachable from most of the internet.  One provider required that we
have at least a /24, and the other highly recommended it.

Even if both of your providers will accept something smaller, they have no
control over what other providers will do to your routes.  With anything
smaller than a /24 they will probably be filtered, as you seem to be
noticing.

HTH,
John

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:35:42 -0800, Gary Crouch wrote:

>  What is the smallest network that can support BGP ?
>  we have a /27 network with two ISP UUNET and @work=20
>  when the router is full configured for load balancing traffic going out =
>  the @work connection does not come back
>  router reports destionation net unreachable
>  
>  UUNET say /27 is not a problem=20
>  @work say we need a least a /24 network=20
>  
>  when UUNET fail over we have no traffic come back over the @work
connection=
>  .
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  What is the smallest network that can support BGP 
>  ?
>  we have a /27 network with two ISP UUNET and @work 
>  
>  when the router is full configured for load balancing
traffic 
>  going out the @work connection does not come back
>  router reports destionation net
unreachable
>   
>  UUNET say /27 is not a problem 
>  @work say we need a least a /24 network 
>   
>  when UUNET fail over we have no traffic come back over
the 
>  @work connection.
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
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Re: smallest BGP Network size

2001-03-12 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>What is the smallest network that can support BGP ?


Again, distinguish between external routing and the BGP protocol. The 
BGP protocol itself imposes no restriction on prefix length, but the 
policies of the ISPs involved do.



>we have a /27 network with two ISP UUNET and @work

 From which ISP do you have the /27?  It's unlikely that a prefix that 
small would ever be globally routable.  If it is from UUNET space, 
both UUNET and @work would have to agree to let @work advertise that 
block.  Very unlikely that would happen.

If you must solve this problem from a pure routing standpoint, it is 
probably much more realistic to get two diverse connections to UUNET, 
assuming your address space is part of theirs.

There may be other strategies if you have address assignments from 
both UUNET and @work, but they will probably involve DNS, NAT, and 
possibly secondary server addresses.

Unfortunately, there are no general solutions for multiprovider, 
multihomed routing for small networks.  To help more, I'd really need 
to know more about your applications -- what problem you are trying 
to solve.  Do you support servers that need to be reached from the 
Internet?  Is the connectivity for your clients reaching external 
servers?  Are there VPNs involved?

>when the router is full configured for load balancing traffic going out

How do you define load balancing here?

>the @work connection does not come back
>router reports destionation net unreachable
>
>UUNET say /27 is not a problem
>@work say we need a least a /24 network
>
>when UUNET fail over we have no traffic come back over the @work connection=
>.
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smallest BGP Network size

2001-03-12 Thread Gary Crouch

What is the smallest network that can support BGP ?
we have a /27 network with two ISP UUNET and @work=20
when the router is full configured for load balancing traffic going out =
the @work connection does not come back
router reports destionation net unreachable

UUNET say /27 is not a problem=20
@work say we need a least a /24 network=20

when UUNET fail over we have no traffic come back over the @work connection=
.






What is the smallest network that can support BGP 
?
we have a /27 network with two ISP UUNET and @work 

when the router is full configured for load balancing traffic 
going out the @work connection does not come back
router reports destionation net unreachable
 
UUNET say /27 is not a problem 
@work say we need a least a /24 network 
 
when UUNET fail over we have no traffic come back over the 
@work connection.
 
 
 
 
 

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