rereading.... OK.

BTW, I'm going through the FRTS section, and it too is excellent.

Also, I should be a lot nicer to people who name their routers after various
handguns ;->

Chuck


""Brian Dennis""  wrote in message
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> Chuck,
> I don't think that you are totally correct here. Yes, on a frame-relay
> physical interface "ip split-horizon" is disable. But on a frame-relay
> multipoint subinterface "ip split-horizon" is enabled. In both places in
> chapter 5 where I found him referring to ip split horizon, it seems that
> he's referring to it in reference to frame-relay multipoint subinterfaces.
> So if that's the case, he is correct to say it needs to be disabled.
>
> The rule with frame-relay is:
>
> Physical interface - ip split horizon is off
> Multipoint subinterface - ip split horizon is on
> Point-to-point subinterface - ip split horizon is on
>
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640
> 5G Networks, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> ""Chuck Larrieu""  wrote in message
> news:...
> > I've now browsed chapters 2-5
> >
> > Chap 2 - LAN protocols - tells you everything you were afraid to ask
about
> > the raw protocols historical tables. cable types, frame types, IEEE
> > references. Let's call this the "Priscilla" chapter ;->
> >
> > also covers bridging and switching in good detail. I read with great
> > interest the section on token ring switching, and found it to be the
best
> > guide I have seen with regards to both the theory and the practical
> > configuration of a 3920 switch. I say this with confidence because the
> > recommendations are very close to what I developed independently, using
> > Cisco documentation and the 3920 simulator which I believe NLI is now
> > selling.  Confidence because  not too long ago I was someplace where
this
> > was important, and everything worked the way it was supposed to on the
> 3920,
> > at least. superior IMHO to the very good explanation found in the
Kennedy
> > Clark book.
> >
> > Chap 3 WAN HDLC - OK
> >
> > Chap 4 WAN PPP - not too bad. concentrates on ISDN / dial. The section
on
> > PPP multilink is incredibly poor, to the point of being useless. this
> > surprised me, as there is so much detail elsewhere.
> >
> > Chap 5 - frame relay. another decent chapter. contains a HUGE error.
> states
> > that frame relay split horizon is on by default, and that you have to
> > disable it manually. not true, and the source of woe to many who find
> > themselves frustrated with certain sections of various practice labs. on
a
> > frame relay interface, split horizon is DISabled by default. several
CCIEs
> > otta be ashamed of themselves for letting that one through!  ;->
> >
> > The several lab exercises at the ends of each chapter cover the
> fundamentals
> > pretty well. They are not necessarily CCIE level labs, but they are
> > certainly worth looking at.
> >
> > So far, what I would say, is that the book contains a lot of good
> reference
> > information, some good practical configuration information, and some
> decent
> > exercises for all levels. I continue to recommend this one as something
> > folks new to the field, or just starting out in the certification grid,
> plan
> > on adding to their libraries. Along with the books by Doyle and Caslow,
> this
> > is one that can serve well throughout the journey.




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