Re: [c-nsp] CSCti84025

2011-05-17 Thread Phil Mayers

On 05/16/2011 05:00 PM, Tim Durack wrote:

Anyone run into CSCti84025 on a C6K, VS-S720-3C, 12.2(33)SXI3?


VRFs hardware re-mapping causing MLS/CEF inconsistencies


We've had something very like this on SXI3 - routing changes trigger 
MPLS label mis-programming resulting in CPU punt and high packet loss on 
affected LSPs. TAC logged in and did some poking at the TCAM and fixed 
it, then I reloaded the box a week or so later.


We're on SXI5 and these seem to have gone away.


On a Catalyst 6500 series switches, connectivity in VRFs may be affected after
a large reconvergence. Another symptom of the issue is the presence of invalid
mls mpls entries :

Router#show mls cef mpls | i INVALID
583 731 INVALID punt
1377 675 INVALID punt
1379 9742 INVALID punt

Conditions:

This is observed on a PE running a fair amount of ebgp sessions between its
own VRFs.


That wasn't the trigger for us (although TAC was unable to determine 
exactly what was) hence very like rather than exactly this.



Interested in knowing what it feels like. We are seeing these
invalid entries, and have been experiencing random/cyclic packet loss.
I'm guessing invalid labels punting to control plane with CoPP
configured might result in seemingly random packet loss.


That's exactly what we experienced.

It seems to go away for a while after reload i.e. the TCAM 
mis-programming doesn't seem to happen until the box has been up a 
while. But that was very much an impression/gut feeling, no hard evidence.

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Re: [c-nsp] CSCti84025

2011-05-17 Thread Tim Durack
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
 On 05/16/2011 05:00 PM, Tim Durack wrote:

 Anyone run into CSCti84025 on a C6K, VS-S720-3C, 12.2(33)SXI3?


 VRFs hardware re-mapping causing MLS/CEF inconsistencies

 We've had something very like this on SXI3 - routing changes trigger MPLS
 label mis-programming resulting in CPU punt and high packet loss on affected
 LSPs. TAC logged in and did some poking at the TCAM and fixed it, then I
 reloaded the box a week or so later.

 We're on SXI5 and these seem to have gone away.

Good to know. We have case open with TAC, and are testing SXI6 as the fix.

 Interested in knowing what it feels like. We are seeing these
 invalid entries, and have been experiencing random/cyclic packet loss.
 I'm guessing invalid labels punting to control plane with CoPP
 configured might result in seemingly random packet loss.

 That's exactly what we experienced.

 It seems to go away for a while after reload i.e. the TCAM mis-programming
 doesn't seem to happen until the box has been up a while. But that was very
 much an impression/gut feeling, no hard evidence.

Thanks for the comments.

-- 
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Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

2011-05-17 Thread Church, Charles
Anyone?  Otherwise gonna ask TAC, just want to verify my thoughts.

Thanks,

Chuck

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Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 6:07 PM
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Subject: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

All,

Noticed an unexpected result today when testing VSS failover.  Our 
setup has dual sups in each chassis, with a supervisor port of each chassis 
connecting to the matching supervisor port on the other chassis, i.e. 1/5/4 
connects to 2/5/4, and 1/6/4 connects to 2/6/4.  Today when pulling out the 
active sup, the hot-standby took over immediately as it should, but we noticed 
all the linecards in the chassis with the pulled sup resetting.  I was under 
the assumption that a sup transitioning from RPR-warm to standby hot would 
remain forwarding at L2, thus keeping the VSL up.  Now I'm questioning that.  
It would explain the result, as the linecards couldn't get to an active 
supervisor.  I'm thinking I should have a third VSL link (of that port channel) 
on a non-sup linecard.  When we did the eFSU, we noticed real long outages of 
the linecards of the chassis getting the final reload as well.  Possibly the 
same issue, no connectivity to the active sup?

Thanks,

Chuck

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

2011-05-17 Thread Phil Mayers

On 17/05/11 16:31, Church, Charles wrote:

Anyone?  Otherwise gonna ask TAC, just want to verify my thoughts.


I know nothing much about VSS, but I see a couple of confusing aspects 
in your email; you refer to instant failover (which is SSO), RPR+ and eFSU.


Can you elaborate on the exact sequence of events, and what the standby 
state of the other nodes and SUPs was at each point?

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

2011-05-17 Thread Murphy, William
Is your redundancy mode set to RPR?  I think what you are doing only works
if the mode is set to SSO...

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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:31 AM
To: nsp-cisco
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

Anyone?  Otherwise gonna ask TAC, just want to verify my thoughts.

Thanks,

Chuck

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Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 6:07 PM
To: nsp-cisco
Subject: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

All,

Noticed an unexpected result today when testing VSS failover.  Our
setup has dual sups in each chassis, with a supervisor port of each chassis
connecting to the matching supervisor port on the other chassis, i.e. 1/5/4
connects to 2/5/4, and 1/6/4 connects to 2/6/4.  Today when pulling out the
active sup, the hot-standby took over immediately as it should, but we
noticed all the linecards in the chassis with the pulled sup resetting.  I
was under the assumption that a sup transitioning from RPR-warm to standby
hot would remain forwarding at L2, thus keeping the VSL up.  Now I'm
questioning that.  It would explain the result, as the linecards couldn't
get to an active supervisor.  I'm thinking I should have a third VSL link
(of that port channel) on a non-sup linecard.  When we did the eFSU, we
noticed real long outages of the linecards of the chassis getting the final
reload as well.  Possibly the same issue, no connectivity to the active sup?

Thanks,

Chuck

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

2011-05-17 Thread Matlock, Kenneth L
I haven't looked TOO in-depth on this yet, but with VSS and 4
supervisors, do all 4 come up in SSO mode, or do the first 2 come up in
SSO, and the other two come up in RPR+ mode? 

4 Supervisor VSS is still VERY new, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's
a hybrid of the 2 modes at this point still.

Ken Matlock
Network Analyst
Exempla Healthcare
(303) 467-4671
matlo...@exempla.org


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Murphy, William
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:09 PM
To: Church, Charles; nsp-cisco
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

Is your redundancy mode set to RPR?  I think what you are doing only
works
if the mode is set to SSO...

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Church, Charles
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:31 AM
To: nsp-cisco
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

Anyone?  Otherwise gonna ask TAC, just want to verify my thoughts.

Thanks,

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Church, Charles
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 6:07 PM
To: nsp-cisco
Subject: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

All,

Noticed an unexpected result today when testing VSS failover.
Our
setup has dual sups in each chassis, with a supervisor port of each
chassis
connecting to the matching supervisor port on the other chassis, i.e.
1/5/4
connects to 2/5/4, and 1/6/4 connects to 2/6/4.  Today when pulling out
the
active sup, the hot-standby took over immediately as it should, but we
noticed all the linecards in the chassis with the pulled sup resetting.
I
was under the assumption that a sup transitioning from RPR-warm to
standby
hot would remain forwarding at L2, thus keeping the VSL up.  Now I'm
questioning that.  It would explain the result, as the linecards
couldn't
get to an active supervisor.  I'm thinking I should have a third VSL
link
(of that port channel) on a non-sup linecard.  When we did the eFSU, we
noticed real long outages of the linecards of the chassis getting the
final
reload as well.  Possibly the same issue, no connectivity to the active
sup?

Thanks,

Chuck

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[c-nsp] 'hitless' XR upgrades on ASR9k?

2011-05-17 Thread Jason Lixfeld
Is there a way to do quasi-hitless XR upgrades on an ASR9k?  I have two RSPs, 
so I'd be under the impression that I could load the new code onto the standby, 
reload it, then failover from the active to the standby but I can't find any 
specific instructions in any of the upgrade docs I'm reading, so I can't be 
sure.

Anyone happen to have gone down this road before?
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Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

2011-05-17 Thread Church, Charles
Phil,

The VSS is the 'bonding' of 2 6500 chassis into one, with one CLI
controlling both chassis.  Kind of like a 3750 stack.  Up until I think
SXI3, you were limited to one sup in each chassis.  One sup would be elected
the active, and the other would be the hot standby, like normal SSO, but
split between chassis.  With SXI3 or 4, you can add a second sup into each
chassis.  These sups backup the other sup in that chassis.  The additional
sups take the role of RPR warm.  Each chassis can have at most 1 sup as
either active or hot-standby, and the other sup if up will be RPR warm.  If
your active sup is lost, the hot-standby (in other chassis) transitions to
active, and the backup sup in the chassis which just lost the active sup
will transition from RPR-warm to hot-standby.  The VSS link exists between
the two chassis to act almost like a backplane, carrying some traffic, but
also state info, and other things you might find on the backplane.

Chuck Church


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Phil Mayers
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:39 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

On 17/05/11 16:31, Church, Charles wrote:
 Anyone?  Otherwise gonna ask TAC, just want to verify my thoughts.

I know nothing much about VSS, but I see a couple of confusing aspects 
in your email; you refer to instant failover (which is SSO), RPR+ and eFSU.

Can you elaborate on the exact sequence of events, and what the standby 
state of the other nodes and SUPs was at each point?
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Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

2011-05-17 Thread Church, Charles
First one up is active, the first one up in the opposite chassis becomes the
standby.  The other sups fall into RPR mode.  Unfortunately the docs for
eFSU and ISSU don't cover the 4 sup method well, the placement of the VSLs
seems to be a bit of a mystery.  Doesn't sound like you can have too many.
Will know soon, tried to bring up another one today, but an odd bug
involving an etherchannel looping frames after change to 'performance mode'
killed us.  Will try again soon.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: Matlock, Kenneth L [mailto:matlo...@exempla.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:44 PM
To: Murphy, William; Church, Charles; nsp-cisco
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

I haven't looked TOO in-depth on this yet, but with VSS and 4
supervisors, do all 4 come up in SSO mode, or do the first 2 come up in
SSO, and the other two come up in RPR+ mode? 

4 Supervisor VSS is still VERY new, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's
a hybrid of the 2 modes at this point still.

Ken Matlock
Network Analyst
Exempla Healthcare
(303) 467-4671
matlo...@exempla.org


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Murphy, William
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:09 PM
To: Church, Charles; nsp-cisco
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

Is your redundancy mode set to RPR?  I think what you are doing only
works
if the mode is set to SSO...

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Church, Charles
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:31 AM
To: nsp-cisco
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

Anyone?  Otherwise gonna ask TAC, just want to verify my thoughts.

Thanks,

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Church, Charles
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 6:07 PM
To: nsp-cisco
Subject: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question

All,

Noticed an unexpected result today when testing VSS failover.
Our
setup has dual sups in each chassis, with a supervisor port of each
chassis
connecting to the matching supervisor port on the other chassis, i.e.
1/5/4
connects to 2/5/4, and 1/6/4 connects to 2/6/4.  Today when pulling out
the
active sup, the hot-standby took over immediately as it should, but we
noticed all the linecards in the chassis with the pulled sup resetting.
I
was under the assumption that a sup transitioning from RPR-warm to
standby
hot would remain forwarding at L2, thus keeping the VSL up.  Now I'm
questioning that.  It would explain the result, as the linecards
couldn't
get to an active supervisor.  I'm thinking I should have a third VSL
link
(of that port channel) on a non-sup linecard.  When we did the eFSU, we
noticed real long outages of the linecards of the chassis getting the
final
reload as well.  Possibly the same issue, no connectivity to the active
sup?

Thanks,

Chuck

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[c-nsp] off-topic NMS Suggestion

2011-05-17 Thread omar parihuana
Hi List,

Please could you suggest me a NMS for WAN/LAN? the WAN is a MPLS/VPN (300
remote offices)  and the Switching is a campus LAN (aprox 1000 Network
Devices) and three remote buildings (aprox Network 200 devices in each
building). Before I tried Cisco Works but I faced some issues; HP Openview
was difficult also. We need a easy web interface for monitoring and
reporting (unfortunately no open source solutions are accepted).

Thank you for your suggestions.

Rgds.

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Re: [c-nsp] off-topic NMS Suggestion

2011-05-17 Thread Daniel Lacey
The best NMS solutions are open source. (My opinion... :-)
You can get paid support if that is the issue, from installation to
on-going configuration support.
You should investigate what support teams are using to monitor large
networks.
Papa John's for example monitors 3400 locations requiring only one
person on duty Open source NMS...

You will save a ton of money as well...

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On 5/17/11 7:38 PM, omar parihuana wrote:
 Hi List,

 Please could you suggest me a NMS for WAN/LAN? the WAN is a MPLS/VPN (300
 remote offices)  and the Switching is a campus LAN (aprox 1000 Network
 Devices) and three remote buildings (aprox Network 200 devices in each
 building). Before I tried Cisco Works but I faced some issues; HP Openview
 was difficult also. We need a easy web interface for monitoring and
 reporting (unfortunately no open source solutions are accepted).

 Thank you for your suggestions.

 Rgds.

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Re: [c-nsp] 'hitless' XR upgrades on ASR9k?

2011-05-17 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Tue, 17 May 2011, Jason Lixfeld wrote:


Is there a way to do quasi-hitless XR upgrades on an ASR9k?  I have two RSPs, 
so I'd be under the impression that I could load the new code onto the standby, 
reload it, then failover from the active to the standby but I can't find any 
specific instructions in any of the upgrade docs I'm reading, so I can't be 
sure.


Afaik, ISSU between XR versions isn't available yet.

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[c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations

2011-05-17 Thread Lee Starnes
Does anyone have any recommendations for an open source netflow solution? If
there is nothing out there, what is recommended in the non-open source
world? Are there any to absolutely stay away from?

Thanks,

Lee
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Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations

2011-05-17 Thread Tim Pozar
http://nfsen.sourceforge.net/

Tim

on 5/17/11 8:21 PM Lee Starnes said the following:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for an open source netflow solution? If
 there is nothing out there, what is recommended in the non-open source
 world? Are there any to absolutely stay away from?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Lee
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[c-nsp] 3845 aim problem

2011-05-17 Thread hamid tavoli
hello
after install  aim-ssl3 module in Router Cisco 3845 appear this message and cpu 
process after enabling the IPSEC over than 90% and Router Hang.
pls help me to resolve this message:
AIM Type 0x4f5 is not supported by this platform

my ios is :C3845-adventerprisek9-mz.124-25a

thank you


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Re: [c-nsp] 3845 aim problem

2011-05-17 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/17/11 10:09 PM, hamid tavoli wrote:
 hello
 after install  aim-ssl3 module in Router Cisco 3845 appear this message and 
 cpu process after enabling the IPSEC over than 90% and Router Hang.
 pls help me to resolve this message:
 AIM Type 0x4f5 is not supported by this platform
 
 my ios is :C3845-adventerprisek9-mz.124-25a
 


The Cisco IPsec and SSL VPN AIM requires Cisco IOS Software Version
12.4(9)T or higher.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/data_sheet_vpn_aim_for_18128003800routers_ps5853_Products_Data_Sheet.html

~Seth
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