Re: [c-nsp] Upgrading from 3.0.6 to Denali-16.3.5b

2018-01-18 Thread Tristan Gulyas
Hi,

On 3850 multigigabit switches (12X48U, 24XS or 24XU), I'm seeing around 20 
minutes from reboot to restoration of service, even on stacks.  I seem to 
recall the 24U models run quicker as they have less ASIC resources for 
programming.  This seems fairly consistent.  Are you using TFTP/SCP to transfer 
files? I've found that some transfers go at a glacial speed (at the point where 
they will time out occasionally); Cisco's recommendation to copy to local flash 
first improves the situation, but makes this a three step process (copy, 
reboot, clean).

We upgraded a test/QAT model last week that caused every switch in that layer 2 
domain (~30 building distribution stacks) to learn EVERY MAC address on the 
network, which exceeded the 3750X MAC address table limits...

Downgrading the code made the issue disappear. 

We're still on a 3.7.x engineering release and targeting 16.3.5b for 
improvements in stacking stability and auto-upgrade features we specifically 
requested.

Cheers,
Tristan

> On 18 Jan 2018, at 7:59 am, Christina Klam  wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> This is the second Cat3850 that I have tried to upgrade to Denali-16.3.5b.  
> Both take hours to go from expanding the files to finishing.  I am on hour 
> two for the second switch.  Except for interface status messages about my 
> management port (Gig 0/0), there is nothing going over the console.  I am 
> just assuming that the upgrading is indeed happening.  When I did the first 
> switch, it took hours as well, so I will be patient.  But I am not happy.
> 
> Fortunately, I have the luxury that these two switches were/are not in 
> production at the time of their upgrades.  However, I will not have the 
> luxury for the other 3850s.
> 
> What is your experience with upgrading to Denali or Everest?   This is beyond 
> ridiculous.  
> 
> Regards,
> Christina
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Re: [c-nsp] Upgrading from 3.0.6 to Denali-16.3.5b

2018-01-18 Thread Nick Cutting
Like Tristan - we have not made the Jump to Denali yet either.
Most of our 3850's and 3850 stacks are on client sites that do not need the 
MPLS functionality. 

I have also no used the rollback command switch at upgrade time

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Gulyas
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To: Christina Klam 
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Upgrading from 3.0.6 to Denali-16.3.5b

This message originates from outside of your organisation.

Hi,

On 3850 multigigabit switches (12X48U, 24XS or 24XU), I'm seeing around 20 
minutes from reboot to restoration of service, even on stacks.  I seem to 
recall the 24U models run quicker as they have less ASIC resources for 
programming.  This seems fairly consistent.  Are you using TFTP/SCP to transfer 
files? I've found that some transfers go at a glacial speed (at the point where 
they will time out occasionally); Cisco's recommendation to copy to local flash 
first improves the situation, but makes this a three step process (copy, 
reboot, clean).

We upgraded a test/QAT model last week that caused every switch in that layer 2 
domain (~30 building distribution stacks) to learn EVERY MAC address on the 
network, which exceeded the 3750X MAC address table limits...

Downgrading the code made the issue disappear. 

We're still on a 3.7.x engineering release and targeting 16.3.5b for 
improvements in stacking stability and auto-upgrade features we specifically 
requested.

Cheers,
Tristan

> On 18 Jan 2018, at 7:59 am, Christina Klam  wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> This is the second Cat3850 that I have tried to upgrade to Denali-16.3.5b.  
> Both take hours to go from expanding the files to finishing.  I am on hour 
> two for the second switch.  Except for interface status messages about my 
> management port (Gig 0/0), there is nothing going over the console.  I am 
> just assuming that the upgrading is indeed happening.  When I did the first 
> switch, it took hours as well, so I will be patient.  But I am not happy.
> 
> Fortunately, I have the luxury that these two switches were/are not in 
> production at the time of their upgrades.  However, I will not have the 
> luxury for the other 3850s.
> 
> What is your experience with upgrading to Denali or Everest?   This is beyond 
> ridiculous.  
> 
> Regards,
> Christina
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Re: [c-nsp] Upgrading from 3.0.6 to Denali-16.3.5b

2018-01-18 Thread Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN
Hi,

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018, at 22:55, Nick Cutting wrote:

> Denali is where they added MPLS, which is a major overhaul in this "slow 
> part of the upgrade" - the ASIC programming

Is that MPLS like "Label Switching" (in which case it looks like a big WOW on 
Cat3K) or MPLS like "VRF-Lite" ?
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Re: [c-nsp] Upgrading from 3.0.6 to Denali-16.3.5b

2018-01-18 Thread Nick Cutting
Big dog mpls multiprocol bgp etc but the fancy stuff is missing

Nick Cutting

> On Jan 18, 2018, at 5:13 PM, Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN 
>  wrote:
> 
> This message originates from outside of your organisation.
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018, at 22:55, Nick Cutting wrote:
>> 
>> Denali is where they added MPLS, which is a major overhaul in this "slow 
>> part of the upgrade" - the ASIC programming
> 
> Is that MPLS like "Label Switching" (in which case it looks like a big WOW on 
> Cat3K) or MPLS like "VRF-Lite" ?
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