Re: [c-nsp] Console connections

2019-01-31 Thread Charles Sprickman via cisco-nsp
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> On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Hunter Fuller  wrote:
> 
> We are trying a somewhat-radical new strategy. For our newest rack, we
> bought a Raspberry Pi Model 3B. It has four USB ports, and into each port
> we plugged a dual-headed USB to RS232 adapter, for a total of 8 ports.
> 
> So far, so good. The main benefits are ease of use (our team can use the
> same tools they use on their laptops) and cost (100-150 USD total for the
> setup I just mentioned).
> 
> The gotchas are that it only has one inbuilt Ethernet port and it does not
> have built-in support for redundant power. But we are using this only for
> emergencies, and we access the site once every few months anyway, so we
> were willing to make that concession.

For software on that sort of setup, this is really great: 
https://www.conserver.com/

For a neater solution, these folks have all kinds of neat USB -> many serial 
port options:

http://usbserial.com/

Can’t say enough things about ConServer. The logging is awesome, multi-user is 
super-handy. It beats all of the software I’ve seen in proprietary terminal 
server hardware.

I bet you could also pick up something like Xylogics Annex III super cheap on 
Ebay too (if you don’t mind telnet instead of ssh!).

Charles

> 
> --
> Hunter Fuller
> Network Engineer
> VBH Annex B-5
> +1 256 824 5331
> 
> Office of Information Technology
> The University of Alabama in Huntsville
> Systems and Infrastructure
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:03 PM R. Benjamin Kessler 
> wrote:
> 
>> We've deployed async HWICs/NIMs in Cisco routers for customers in hundreds
>> of locations.
>> Many/most were also pared with 4G cards provide an out-of-band connection
>> back to a centralized data center.
>> 
>> R. Benjamin Kessler
>> PRESIDENT / CHIEF NETWORK GEEK
>> ZENETRA CORPORATION
>> CCIE # 8762 | CISSP | PCNSE
>> P: (260)-271-4330 | M: (260)-437-5774
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cisco-nsp  On Behalf Of Robert
>> Raszuk
>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 5:00 PM
>> To: Nick Cutting 
>> Cc: Cisco NSPs 
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Console connections
>> 
>> Hi Nick,
>> 
>> Indeed I was looking also at opengear but got a bit scared with limited
>> software based pinout switching capabilities ... Some models can switch
>> between X1 and X2 but is this enough ? Today we use avocent which claims to
>> be soft selectable between RS485, RS422 and RS232 pinouts.
>> 
>> 
>> https://opengear.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/216371943-Which-adapter-will-I-use-to-connect-to-various-types-of-equipment-
>> 
>> In my case in those 10 racks are complete wild zoo of various eval
>> equipment and just trying to avoid as much as possible per vendor console
>> adapters going forward.
>> 
>> Many thx,
>> R.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:55 PM Nick Cutting  wrote:
>> 
>>> We use lots of opengear.
>>> Expensive - but awesome
>>> 
>>> I did just roll out a cisco 4431 with 3 octal cables for a client
>>> though, but opengear has way more features and supports 2 people at
>>> once on the lines etc
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: cisco-nsp  On Behalf Of
>>> Robert Raszuk
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 4:28 PM
>>> To: Cisco NSPs 
>>> Subject: [c-nsp] Console connections
>>> 
>>> This message originates from outside of your organisation.
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> What would you all recommend these days for min 8-12 port rack mounted
>>> terminal servers  to talk to various vendor's router and switches
>>> console ports ?
>>> 
>>> For years I used cisco 2511 but now it is history .. so what's the
>>> best cisco or not cisco successor for it ?
>>> 
>>> It would be awesome if it would also have few KVM switch ports for
>>> video to get them over IP, but this is just "nice to have" -
>>> primary I need to get 10 async terminal servers.
>>> 
>>> Any proven in action hints ?
>>> 
>>> Many thx,
>>> Robert.
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 4k Performance and Boost Licensing

2019-01-31 Thread Šturmankin Miroslav
Hi Rick,

the license is activated the same way, as performance license on 4451x, so you 
don't need to go though 1G>2G>4G:

platform hardware throughput level 100/200/boost

Note, however, that you'll need at least IOS XE 16.07.01, otherwise boost 
option will not show up.

Regards/S pozdravom,

Miro Sturmankin

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Adam 
Greene
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 3:12 PM
To: 'Cisco NSPs'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 4k Performance and Boost Licensing

Rick,

My impression from reading the documentation has been that the Boost license 
can be activated independently of the Performance license.

Maybe someone who's actually implemented it can confirm! ;)

Thanks,
Adam


-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp  On Behalf Of Richard Clayton
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 7:12 AM
To: Cisco NSPs 
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco 4k Performance and Boost Licensing

Hi Guys

Quick question regarding the above.  Can I activate a boost license independent 
of a performance license or do I need to activate the performance license and 
then the boost license?
I was hoping I could just activate the boost license on a 4451 to give me 4Gb, 
rather than activate the performance license first.  So 1GB > 4GB rather than 
1GB > 2Gb > 4Gb.

Thanks
Rick
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Re: [c-nsp] Console connections

2019-01-31 Thread Hunter Fuller
We are trying a somewhat-radical new strategy. For our newest rack, we
bought a Raspberry Pi Model 3B. It has four USB ports, and into each port
we plugged a dual-headed USB to RS232 adapter, for a total of 8 ports.

So far, so good. The main benefits are ease of use (our team can use the
same tools they use on their laptops) and cost (100-150 USD total for the
setup I just mentioned).

The gotchas are that it only has one inbuilt Ethernet port and it does not
have built-in support for redundant power. But we are using this only for
emergencies, and we access the site once every few months anyway, so we
were willing to make that concession.

--
Hunter Fuller
Network Engineer
VBH Annex B-5
+1 256 824 5331

Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama in Huntsville
Systems and Infrastructure


On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:03 PM R. Benjamin Kessler 
wrote:

> We've deployed async HWICs/NIMs in Cisco routers for customers in hundreds
> of locations.
> Many/most were also pared with 4G cards provide an out-of-band connection
> back to a centralized data center.
>
> R. Benjamin Kessler
> PRESIDENT / CHIEF NETWORK GEEK
> ZENETRA CORPORATION
> CCIE # 8762 | CISSP | PCNSE
> P: (260)-271-4330 | M: (260)-437-5774
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-nsp  On Behalf Of Robert
> Raszuk
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 5:00 PM
> To: Nick Cutting 
> Cc: Cisco NSPs 
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Console connections
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> Indeed I was looking also at opengear but got a bit scared with limited
> software based pinout switching capabilities ... Some models can switch
> between X1 and X2 but is this enough ? Today we use avocent which claims to
> be soft selectable between RS485, RS422 and RS232 pinouts.
>
>
> https://opengear.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/216371943-Which-adapter-will-I-use-to-connect-to-various-types-of-equipment-
>
> In my case in those 10 racks are complete wild zoo of various eval
> equipment and just trying to avoid as much as possible per vendor console
> adapters going forward.
>
> Many thx,
> R.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:55 PM Nick Cutting  wrote:
>
> > We use lots of opengear.
> > Expensive - but awesome
> >
> > I did just roll out a cisco 4431 with 3 octal cables for a client
> > though, but opengear has way more features and supports 2 people at
> > once on the lines etc
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cisco-nsp  On Behalf Of
> > Robert Raszuk
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 4:28 PM
> > To: Cisco NSPs 
> > Subject: [c-nsp] Console connections
> >
> > This message originates from outside of your organisation.
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > What would you all recommend these days for min 8-12 port rack mounted
> > terminal servers  to talk to various vendor's router and switches
> > console ports ?
> >
> > For years I used cisco 2511 but now it is history .. so what's the
> > best cisco or not cisco successor for it ?
> >
> > It would be awesome if it would also have few KVM switch ports for
> > video to get them over IP, but this is just "nice to have" -
> > primary I need to get 10 async terminal servers.
> >
> > Any proven in action hints ?
> >
> > Many thx,
> > Robert.
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Re: [c-nsp] Console connections

2019-01-31 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler
We've deployed async HWICs/NIMs in Cisco routers for customers in hundreds of 
locations.
Many/most were also pared with 4G cards provide an out-of-band connection back 
to a centralized data center.

R. Benjamin Kessler
PRESIDENT / CHIEF NETWORK GEEK
ZENETRA CORPORATION
CCIE # 8762 | CISSP | PCNSE
P: (260)-271-4330 | M: (260)-437-5774

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp  On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 5:00 PM
To: Nick Cutting 
Cc: Cisco NSPs 
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Console connections

Hi Nick,

Indeed I was looking also at opengear but got a bit scared with limited 
software based pinout switching capabilities ... Some models can switch between 
X1 and X2 but is this enough ? Today we use avocent which claims to be soft 
selectable between RS485, RS422 and RS232 pinouts.

https://opengear.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/216371943-Which-adapter-will-I-use-to-connect-to-various-types-of-equipment-

In my case in those 10 racks are complete wild zoo of various eval equipment 
and just trying to avoid as much as possible per vendor console adapters going 
forward.

Many thx,
R.



On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:55 PM Nick Cutting  wrote:

> We use lots of opengear.
> Expensive - but awesome
>
> I did just roll out a cisco 4431 with 3 octal cables for a client 
> though, but opengear has way more features and supports 2 people at 
> once on the lines etc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-nsp  On Behalf Of 
> Robert Raszuk
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 4:28 PM
> To: Cisco NSPs 
> Subject: [c-nsp] Console connections
>
> This message originates from outside of your organisation.
>
> Hello,
>
> What would you all recommend these days for min 8-12 port rack mounted 
> terminal servers  to talk to various vendor's router and switches 
> console ports ?
>
> For years I used cisco 2511 but now it is history .. so what's the 
> best cisco or not cisco successor for it ?
>
> It would be awesome if it would also have few KVM switch ports for 
> video to get them over IP, but this is just "nice to have" - 
> primary I need to get 10 async terminal servers.
>
> Any proven in action hints ?
>
> Many thx,
> Robert.
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Re: [c-nsp] Console connections

2019-01-31 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Nick,

Indeed I was looking also at opengear but got a bit scared with limited
software based pinout switching capabilities ... Some models can switch
between X1 and X2 but is this enough ? Today we use avocent which claims to
be soft selectable between RS485, RS422 and RS232 pinouts.

https://opengear.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/216371943-Which-adapter-will-I-use-to-connect-to-various-types-of-equipment-

In my case in those 10 racks are complete wild zoo of various eval
equipment and just trying to avoid as much as possible per vendor console
adapters going forward.

Many thx,
R.



On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:55 PM Nick Cutting  wrote:

> We use lots of opengear.
> Expensive - but awesome
>
> I did just roll out a cisco 4431 with 3 octal cables for a client though,
> but opengear has way more features and supports 2 people at once on the
> lines etc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-nsp  On Behalf Of Robert
> Raszuk
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 4:28 PM
> To: Cisco NSPs 
> Subject: [c-nsp] Console connections
>
> This message originates from outside of your organisation.
>
> Hello,
>
> What would you all recommend these days for min 8-12 port rack mounted
> terminal servers  to talk to various vendor's router and switches console
> ports ?
>
> For years I used cisco 2511 but now it is history .. so what's the best
> cisco or not cisco successor for it ?
>
> It would be awesome if it would also have few KVM switch ports for
> video to get them over IP, but this is just "nice to have" - primary
> I need to get 10 async terminal servers.
>
> Any proven in action hints ?
>
> Many thx,
> Robert.
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Re: [c-nsp] Console connections

2019-01-31 Thread Nick Cutting
We use lots of opengear.
Expensive - but awesome

I did just roll out a cisco 4431 with 3 octal cables for a client though, but 
opengear has way more features and supports 2 people at once on the lines etc

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp  On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 4:28 PM
To: Cisco NSPs 
Subject: [c-nsp] Console connections

This message originates from outside of your organisation.

Hello,

What would you all recommend these days for min 8-12 port rack mounted terminal 
servers  to talk to various vendor's router and switches console ports ?

For years I used cisco 2511 but now it is history .. so what's the best cisco 
or not cisco successor for it ?

It would be awesome if it would also have few KVM switch ports for video 
to get them over IP, but this is just "nice to have" - primary I need to get 10 
async terminal servers.

Any proven in action hints ?

Many thx,
Robert.
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Re: [c-nsp] Console connections

2019-01-31 Thread Vladimir Buyalskiy

Hi Robert.

Check Aten or Moxa

Best regards,
Vladimir Buyalskiy

01.02.2019 0:27, Robert Raszuk пишет:

Hello,

What would you all recommend these days for min 8-12 port rack mounted
terminal servers  to talk to various vendor's router and switches console
ports ?

For years I used cisco 2511 but now it is history .. so what's the best
cisco or not cisco successor for it ?

It would be awesome if it would also have few KVM switch ports for
video to get them over IP, but this is just "nice to have" - primary
I need to get 10 async terminal servers.

Any proven in action hints ?

Many thx,
Robert.
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[c-nsp] Console connections

2019-01-31 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hello,

What would you all recommend these days for min 8-12 port rack mounted
terminal servers  to talk to various vendor's router and switches console
ports ?

For years I used cisco 2511 but now it is history .. so what's the best
cisco or not cisco successor for it ?

It would be awesome if it would also have few KVM switch ports for
video to get them over IP, but this is just "nice to have" - primary
I need to get 10 async terminal servers.

Any proven in action hints ?

Many thx,
Robert.
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 4k Performance and Boost Licensing

2019-01-31 Thread Łukasz Bromirski

> On 30 Jan 2019, at 15:11, Adam Greene  wrote:
> 
> Rick,
> 
> My impression from reading the documentation has been that the Boost license
> can be activated independently of the Performance license.
> 
> Maybe someone who's actually implemented it can confirm! ;)

Yes, “boost" is all you need if you need performance *only*. Take note however 
all
cores are used so no-no for the VMs or any other apps on top of ISR.

— 
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