Re: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

2010-07-05 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 14:29 +0200, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote:
> Could you share the address from where you got theese pls ?
> 
> Could be useful someday, you never know ;-)

I bought them at a local electronics retail store ("Radiolageret") in
Denmark, but that's probably not very useful information for most
people. :-)

OTOH they a quite standard. In ISO 60086 language it's "CR1225" and
(according to Wikipedia) in ANSI C18 language it's "5020LC". They're
12.5 mm in diameter and 2.5 mm in height and rated for 3V voltage.

My guess is that most places that sell CR2032 cells (typically used for
bicycle headlights) also sell CR1225 cells.

We actually used BR1225 instead of CR1225, since that was what they had.
They should be similar, according to page 3 of this (googled) PDF

http://www.jgthomas.com.au/static/lithium%20batteries.pdf

> The difference between CR series and BR series in the lithium range is
> CR batteries provide higher voltage during the first half of discharge
> and better overall current capability.
> BR batteries perform better at high temperatures and provide a more
> stable voltage during last half of discharge.
> For consumer applications the BR and CR series of lithium batteries
> are considered interchangeable.

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

2010-07-05 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 7/5/10 5:29 AM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote:
> Hello Peter,
> 
> Could you share the address from where you got theese pls ?
> 
> Could be useful someday, you never know ;-)

A CR1225 lithium cell?  Most drugstores, Radio Shack, camera shop, etc.

>> Follow-up: We changed the lithium cell (CR1225) and everything looks
>> fine now. The batteries are inexpensive.

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

2010-07-05 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hello Peter,

Could you share the address from where you got theese pls ?

Could be useful someday, you never know ;-)

Thanks.

Y.



2010/7/5 Peter Rathlev 

> On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 17:53 +0200, Peter Rathlev wrote:
> > I have an old (~7 years) Sup720 PFC3BXL that has been running fine for
> > all it's life and is now to act as a secondary node in a new place.
> >
> > I've loaded it with the new config and new IOS and (soft) reloaded a
> > couple of times; no problems there. But when I "hard" reload it (i.e.
> > take away power) the startup-config and ROMMON parameters disappear.
> > It's completely reproducible, every time I take away power it has no
> > startup-config and the ROMMON settings are the default settings.
>
> Follow-up: We changed the lithium cell (CR1225) and everything looks
> fine now. The batteries are inexpensive.
>
> --
> Peter
>
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Re: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

2010-07-05 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 17:53 +0200, Peter Rathlev wrote:
> I have an old (~7 years) Sup720 PFC3BXL that has been running fine for
> all it's life and is now to act as a secondary node in a new place.
> 
> I've loaded it with the new config and new IOS and (soft) reloaded a
> couple of times; no problems there. But when I "hard" reload it (i.e.
> take away power) the startup-config and ROMMON parameters disappear.
> It's completely reproducible, every time I take away power it has no
> startup-config and the ROMMON settings are the default settings.

Follow-up: We changed the lithium cell (CR1225) and everything looks
fine now. The batteries are inexpensive.

-- 
Peter


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Re: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

2010-06-30 Thread Phil Mayers

On 06/29/2010 10:16 PM, Peter Rathlev wrote:

On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 18:24 +0200, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:53:48 +0200, you wrote:

Anybody have a clue about what I could do? Other than have it
replaced? :-)


The solution *is* to have it RMA'ed.


We currently have no service contract covering hardware replacement for
this device. :-|


Remember, support is on the chassis - just plug it into something you do 
have support on ;o)

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

2010-06-29 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 15:01 -0700, Mack McBride wrote:
> You can upgrade multiple slots and sp and rp during a single reload.
> 
> 
> 
> upgrade rom-monitor slot  [sp|rp] file 
> reload

Ah, it was really simple. Thank you. :-)

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

2010-06-29 Thread Mack McBride
You can upgrade multiple slots and sp and rp during a single reload.



upgrade rom-monitor slot  [sp|rp] file 
reload


Mack

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 3:21 PM
To: Mack McBride
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 09:20 -0700, Mack McBride wrote:
> There are ROMMON upgrades for the Sup720.

I found the images on CCO. And I can see that I even have an older one
lying around, but somehow I can't find the procedure for doing a ROMMON
upgrade. My (non-ECC!) memory tells me that I once looked at exactly
such a procedure, but I just can't find it now.

Any pointers? :-)

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

2010-06-29 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 09:20 -0700, Mack McBride wrote:
> There are ROMMON upgrades for the Sup720.

I found the images on CCO. And I can see that I even have an older one
lying around, but somehow I can't find the procedure for doing a ROMMON
upgrade. My (non-ECC!) memory tells me that I once looked at exactly
such a procedure, but I just can't find it now.

Any pointers? :-)

-- 
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Re: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

2010-06-29 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 18:24 +0200, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:53:48 +0200, you wrote:
> > Anybody have a clue about what I could do? Other than have it
> > replaced? :-)
> 
> The solution *is* to have it RMA'ed.

We currently have no service contract covering hardware replacement for
this device. :-|

As far as I remember it was bought when there was still "life time"
guarantee, but they rescinded that. I will try talking to our sales
person to see if they can come up with an inexpensive solution to the
problem.

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Re: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

2010-06-29 Thread Mack McBride
There are ROMMON upgrades for the Sup720.
However it sounds like you have a problem with the NVRAM.
It sounds like the older NVRAM was not flash based and
the battery has died.  It may be possible to replace the 
battery if it isn't part of the NVRAM unit and isn't 
soldered to the Sup720.

LR Mack McBride
Network Architect
Viawest, Inc.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:54 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

I have an old (~7 years) Sup720 PFC3BXL that has been running fine for
all it's life and is now to act as a secondary node in a new place.

I've loaded it with the new config and new IOS and (soft) reloaded a
couple of times; no problems there. But when I "hard" reload it (i.e.
take away power) the startup-config and ROMMON parameters disappear.
It's completely reproducible, every time I take away power it has no
startup-config and the ROMMON settings are the default settings.

When booting up it writes the following message on the console:

- RELIABILITY DRIVER: wrong signature on NVFLASH

It smells like a battery of some kind run dry, combined with the NVRAM
not being flash based. Anybody have a clue about what I could do? Other
than have it replaced? :-)

I was thinking about a ROMMON upgrade (it's using 12.2(14r)S1 now, newer
boxes we have run 12.2(17r)SX5) but have only found documentation that
suggests that you can't ROMMON upgrade a Sup720. I'm not sure why it
would help though.

-- 
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Re: [c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

2010-06-29 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:53:48 +0200, you wrote:

> It smells like a battery of some kind run dry, combined with the
> NVRAM not being flash based. Anybody have a clue about what I
> could do? Other than have it replaced? :-)

The solution *is* to have it RMA'ed. I just had a similar case on a
7600. The SR software is polite enough to actually write that the
battery is low, logging "C7600_PLATFORM-3-LOW_BATT".

-A

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[c-nsp] 6500/Sup720 losing "startup-config"

2010-06-29 Thread Peter Rathlev
I have an old (~7 years) Sup720 PFC3BXL that has been running fine for
all it's life and is now to act as a secondary node in a new place.

I've loaded it with the new config and new IOS and (soft) reloaded a
couple of times; no problems there. But when I "hard" reload it (i.e.
take away power) the startup-config and ROMMON parameters disappear.
It's completely reproducible, every time I take away power it has no
startup-config and the ROMMON settings are the default settings.

When booting up it writes the following message on the console:

- RELIABILITY DRIVER: wrong signature on NVFLASH

It smells like a battery of some kind run dry, combined with the NVRAM
not being flash based. Anybody have a clue about what I could do? Other
than have it replaced? :-)

I was thinking about a ROMMON upgrade (it's using 12.2(14r)S1 now, newer
boxes we have run 12.2(17r)SX5) but have only found documentation that
suggests that you can't ROMMON upgrade a Sup720. I'm not sure why it
would help though.

-- 
Peter




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