Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast routing...correction

2010-10-12 Thread Lee
On 10/12/10, Gert Doering  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 04:35:24PM -0400, Matthew Huff wrote:
>> If the switch doesn't provide layer 3 services (routing) itself, but is
>> really a l2 switch, then you don't need multicast routing / pim,
>> etc...However, you should have igmp snooping on.
>
> IGMP snooping won't help for router-switch-router traffic.
>
> "No IGMP there"

I thought the problem on router-switch-router multicast traffic was
that IGMP snooping didn't limit multicast traffic.  I've never
connected up routers through a 2950 (which is what the OP is using -
right?), but it looks like igmp snooping on a 2950 does learn the
ports going to PIM routers:

c2950>sh ip igmp snoop
  [.. snip ..]
Vlan 1:

IGMP snooping   : Enabled
Immediate leave : Disabled
Multicast router learning mode  : pim-dvmrp
Source only learning age timer  : 10
Last member query interval  : 1000
CGMP interoperability mode  : IGMP_ONLY

Lee
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Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast routing...correction

2010-10-12 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 04:35:24PM -0400, Matthew Huff wrote:
> If the switch doesn't provide layer 3 services (routing) itself, but is 
> really a l2 switch, then you don't need multicast routing / pim, 
> etc...However, you should have igmp snooping on.

IGMP snooping won't help for router-switch-router traffic.

"No IGMP there"

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast routing...correction

2010-10-11 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:37:32 +0200, you wrote:

> The 2960 is a L2 switch.  It can't do unicast routing either...

OT, but actually it can. Just only static unicast routing.

Release notes: "When you configure the new lanbase-routing SDM
template, the switch supports static routing and router ACLs on SVIs.
(Catalyst 2960, 2960-S, and 2975)" 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst2960/software/release/12.2_55_se/configuration/guide/swipstatrout.html

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Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast routing...correction

2010-10-11 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 04:14:23PM -0400, Steven Pfister wrote:
> Thanks for your help... I think I almost got it but I'm running into a 
> problem. It turns out the encoders on the remote site aren't connected 
> directly to the 4506, but go to a 2960-48TC-L first. The IOS on that switch 
> doesn't seem to support ip multicast routing and I tried to find one that 
> does (I had to upgrade the switch the servers are connected to). Does the 
> 2960 not support multicast routing? All other switches involved see pim 
> neighbors now.
> 

The 2960 is a L2 switch.  It can't do unicast routing either...

The catch with L2 switches is that they're likely to flood all multicast
to all ports (as if it were broadcast) unless the support PIM snooping to
understand "what goes where".

gert

PS: this thread is again showing signs of lazy quoting.  No need to quote
the previous 5 articles in full, adding new text on top of it - all of us
have seen all of the previous mails as well.
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Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast routing...correction

2010-10-11 Thread Matthew Huff
If the switch doesn't provide layer 3 services (routing) itself, but is really 
a l2 switch, then you don't need multicast routing / pim, etc...However, you 
should have igmp snooping on.



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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:14 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast routing...correction

Thanks for your help... I think I almost got it but I'm running into a problem. 
It turns out the encoders on the remote site aren't connected directly to the 
4506, but go to a 2960-48TC-L first. The IOS on that switch doesn't seem to 
support ip multicast routing and I tried to find one that does (I had to 
upgrade the switch the servers are connected to). Does the 2960 not support 
multicast routing? All other switches involved see pim neighbors now.

Steve Pfister
Technical Coordinator, 
The Office of Information Technology
Dayton Public Schools
115 S. Ludlow St. 
Dayton, OH 45402
 
Office (937) 542-3149
Cell (937) 673-6779
Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us


>>> John Neiberger  10/11/2010 11:24 AM >>>
Every routed hop in the path must be running PIM and your layer two
interfaces need to have IGMP enabled.

Let us know how it goes!
John

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Steven Pfister  wrote:
> So, in my configuration that I mentioned, not only the 4506 on the remote 
> site, the central site 4510 and 8540 need PIM enabled (which I think is the 
> case now), but the 3560 needs it as well? I think that may be my problem... 
> I'll look into that.
>
> Steve Pfister
> Technical Coordinator,
> The Office of Information Technology
> Dayton Public Schools
> 115 S. Ludlow St.
> Dayton, OH 45402
>
> Office (937) 542-3149
> Cell (937) 673-6779
> Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
> Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us 
>
>
>>>> David Barak  10/8/2010 4:22 PM >>>
> You will need to have PIM enabled on all of the interfaces between the source 
> and receiver, and all of those devices need to have an RP (and they should be 
> the same: easiest solution is statically enter this on all of them).  Also, 
> make sure that PIM is enabled on the 8840's interface that matches the 
> RP-address.
>
> There's a lot more to optimization and troubleshooting, but that should 
> provide initial connectivity.  Some good tutorials on the subject can be 
> found at http://nanog.org/resources/tutorials/ 
>
> David Barak
> Need Geek Rock?  Try The Franchise:
> http://www.listentothefranchise.com 
>
>
> --- On Fri, 10/8/10, Steven Pfister  wrote:
>
>> From: Steven Pfister 
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast 
>> routing...correction
>> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net 
>> Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 3:46 PM
>> The line below reading "non-multicast
>> traffic" should be "non-multicast traffic seems to be OK
>> between the vlans"
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Steve Pfister
>> Technical Coordinator,
>> The Office of Information Technology
>> Dayton Public Schools
>> 115 S. Ludlow St.
>> Dayton, OH 45402
>>
>> Office (937) 542-3149
>> Cell (937) 673-6779
>> Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
>> Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us 
>>
>>
>> >>> "Steven Pfister" 
>> 10/8/2010 3:39 PM >>>
>>
>> We've got a client who needs to set up multicast routing
>> between two sites (and between two vlans) in order for some
>> video encoders at remote sites to find servers at the
>> central site. I've never had experience with this. The setup
>> looks something like:
>>
>> encoders -> Cisco 4506 -> (CSME) -> Cisco 4510
>> -> Cisco 8540 -> Cisco 3560 -> servers
>>
>> The Cisco 4506 is the default gateway for the remote site
>> vlan, let's call it vlan 22.
>> The Cisco 4510 is the default gateway for the central site
>> vlan, let's call it vlan 33
>>
>> Also factoring into this, a previous (before my time here)
>> set up of ip multicasting in sparse mode was done using
>> other remote sites using 3640 routers with the 8540 as the
>> RP. I don't know what it was intended for, or if it was ever
>> successfully configured, but I'm not sure it's in use any
>> more.
>>
>> Here's what's been done so far... the Cisco 4506 now has:
>>
>> ip multicast-routing
>> ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1   [the address
>> of the 8540]
>> interface Vlan22
>>ip pim sparse-d

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast routing...correction

2010-10-11 Thread Steven Pfister
Thanks for your help... I think I almost got it but I'm running into a problem. 
It turns out the encoders on the remote site aren't connected directly to the 
4506, but go to a 2960-48TC-L first. The IOS on that switch doesn't seem to 
support ip multicast routing and I tried to find one that does (I had to 
upgrade the switch the servers are connected to). Does the 2960 not support 
multicast routing? All other switches involved see pim neighbors now.

Steve Pfister
Technical Coordinator, 
The Office of Information Technology
Dayton Public Schools
115 S. Ludlow St. 
Dayton, OH 45402
 
Office (937) 542-3149
Cell (937) 673-6779
Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us


>>> John Neiberger  10/11/2010 11:24 AM >>>
Every routed hop in the path must be running PIM and your layer two
interfaces need to have IGMP enabled.

Let us know how it goes!
John

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Steven Pfister  wrote:
> So, in my configuration that I mentioned, not only the 4506 on the remote 
> site, the central site 4510 and 8540 need PIM enabled (which I think is the 
> case now), but the 3560 needs it as well? I think that may be my problem... 
> I'll look into that.
>
> Steve Pfister
> Technical Coordinator,
> The Office of Information Technology
> Dayton Public Schools
> 115 S. Ludlow St.
> Dayton, OH 45402
>
> Office (937) 542-3149
> Cell (937) 673-6779
> Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
> Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us 
>
>
>>>> David Barak  10/8/2010 4:22 PM >>>
> You will need to have PIM enabled on all of the interfaces between the source 
> and receiver, and all of those devices need to have an RP (and they should be 
> the same: easiest solution is statically enter this on all of them).  Also, 
> make sure that PIM is enabled on the 8840's interface that matches the 
> RP-address.
>
> There's a lot more to optimization and troubleshooting, but that should 
> provide initial connectivity.  Some good tutorials on the subject can be 
> found at http://nanog.org/resources/tutorials/ 
>
> David Barak
> Need Geek Rock?  Try The Franchise:
> http://www.listentothefranchise.com 
>
>
> --- On Fri, 10/8/10, Steven Pfister  wrote:
>
>> From: Steven Pfister 
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast 
>> routing...correction
>> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net 
>> Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 3:46 PM
>> The line below reading "non-multicast
>> traffic" should be "non-multicast traffic seems to be OK
>> between the vlans"
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Steve Pfister
>> Technical Coordinator,
>> The Office of Information Technology
>> Dayton Public Schools
>> 115 S. Ludlow St.
>> Dayton, OH 45402
>>
>> Office (937) 542-3149
>> Cell (937) 673-6779
>> Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
>> Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us 
>>
>>
>> >>> "Steven Pfister" 
>> 10/8/2010 3:39 PM >>>
>>
>> We've got a client who needs to set up multicast routing
>> between two sites (and between two vlans) in order for some
>> video encoders at remote sites to find servers at the
>> central site. I've never had experience with this. The setup
>> looks something like:
>>
>> encoders -> Cisco 4506 -> (CSME) -> Cisco 4510
>> -> Cisco 8540 -> Cisco 3560 -> servers
>>
>> The Cisco 4506 is the default gateway for the remote site
>> vlan, let's call it vlan 22.
>> The Cisco 4510 is the default gateway for the central site
>> vlan, let's call it vlan 33
>>
>> Also factoring into this, a previous (before my time here)
>> set up of ip multicasting in sparse mode was done using
>> other remote sites using 3640 routers with the 8540 as the
>> RP. I don't know what it was intended for, or if it was ever
>> successfully configured, but I'm not sure it's in use any
>> more.
>>
>> Here's what's been done so far... the Cisco 4506 now has:
>>
>> ip multicast-routing
>> ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1   [the address
>> of the 8540]
>> interface Vlan22
>>ip pim sparse-dense-mode  [the video
>> encoder vendor recomended this]
>>  [there's also a ip helper-address pointing to a local
>> server for dhcp]
>>
>> The 4510 has:
>>
>> ip multicast-routing
>> ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1
>> interface Vlan33
>>ip pim sparse-dense-mode
>>
>> Observations:
>> - non-multicast traffic
>> - the encoders never see the servers
>> - "show ip pim neighbor" show

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast routing...correction

2010-10-11 Thread John Neiberger
Every routed hop in the path must be running PIM and your layer two
interfaces need to have IGMP enabled.

Let us know how it goes!
John

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Steven Pfister  wrote:
> So, in my configuration that I mentioned, not only the 4506 on the remote 
> site, the central site 4510 and 8540 need PIM enabled (which I think is the 
> case now), but the 3560 needs it as well? I think that may be my problem... 
> I'll look into that.
>
> Steve Pfister
> Technical Coordinator,
> The Office of Information Technology
> Dayton Public Schools
> 115 S. Ludlow St.
> Dayton, OH 45402
>
> Office (937) 542-3149
> Cell (937) 673-6779
> Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
> Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us
>
>
>>>> David Barak  10/8/2010 4:22 PM >>>
> You will need to have PIM enabled on all of the interfaces between the source 
> and receiver, and all of those devices need to have an RP (and they should be 
> the same: easiest solution is statically enter this on all of them).  Also, 
> make sure that PIM is enabled on the 8840's interface that matches the 
> RP-address.
>
> There's a lot more to optimization and troubleshooting, but that should 
> provide initial connectivity.  Some good tutorials on the subject can be 
> found at http://nanog.org/resources/tutorials/
>
> David Barak
> Need Geek Rock?  Try The Franchise:
> http://www.listentothefranchise.com
>
>
> --- On Fri, 10/8/10, Steven Pfister  wrote:
>
>> From: Steven Pfister 
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast 
>> routing...correction
>> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
>> Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 3:46 PM
>> The line below reading "non-multicast
>> traffic" should be "non-multicast traffic seems to be OK
>> between the vlans"
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Steve Pfister
>> Technical Coordinator,
>> The Office of Information Technology
>> Dayton Public Schools
>> 115 S. Ludlow St.
>> Dayton, OH 45402
>>
>> Office (937) 542-3149
>> Cell (937) 673-6779
>> Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
>> Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us
>>
>>
>> >>> "Steven Pfister" 
>> 10/8/2010 3:39 PM >>>
>>
>> We've got a client who needs to set up multicast routing
>> between two sites (and between two vlans) in order for some
>> video encoders at remote sites to find servers at the
>> central site. I've never had experience with this. The setup
>> looks something like:
>>
>> encoders -> Cisco 4506 -> (CSME) -> Cisco 4510
>> -> Cisco 8540 -> Cisco 3560 -> servers
>>
>> The Cisco 4506 is the default gateway for the remote site
>> vlan, let's call it vlan 22.
>> The Cisco 4510 is the default gateway for the central site
>> vlan, let's call it vlan 33
>>
>> Also factoring into this, a previous (before my time here)
>> set up of ip multicasting in sparse mode was done using
>> other remote sites using 3640 routers with the 8540 as the
>> RP. I don't know what it was intended for, or if it was ever
>> successfully configured, but I'm not sure it's in use any
>> more.
>>
>> Here's what's been done so far... the Cisco 4506 now has:
>>
>> ip multicast-routing
>> ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1   [the address
>> of the 8540]
>> interface Vlan22
>>    ip pim sparse-dense-mode  [the video
>> encoder vendor recomended this]
>>  [there's also a ip helper-address pointing to a local
>> server for dhcp]
>>
>> The 4510 has:
>>
>> ip multicast-routing
>> ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1
>> interface Vlan33
>>    ip pim sparse-dense-mode
>>
>> Observations:
>> - non-multicast traffic
>> - the encoders never see the servers
>> - "show ip pim neighbor" shows no results (just headers)
>> - "show ip multi int vlan33" on the central site shows a
>> large and growing number of multicast in packets, but zero
>> out packets. Same results for vlan22 on the remote site.
>>
>> Could the problem be igmp packets not getting exchanged?
>> Like I said, I've never set up ip multicast routing before.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Steve Pfister
>> Technical Coordinator,
>> The Office of Information Technology
>> Dayton Public Schools
>> 115 S. Ludlow St.
>> Dayton, OH 45402
>>
>> Office (937) 542-3149
>> Cell (937) 673-6779
>> Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
>> Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us
>>
>&g

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast routing...correction

2010-10-11 Thread Steven Pfister
So, in my configuration that I mentioned, not only the 4506 on the remote site, 
the central site 4510 and 8540 need PIM enabled (which I think is the case 
now), but the 3560 needs it as well? I think that may be my problem... I'll 
look into that.

Steve Pfister
Technical Coordinator, 
The Office of Information Technology
Dayton Public Schools
115 S. Ludlow St. 
Dayton, OH 45402
 
Office (937) 542-3149
Cell (937) 673-6779
Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us


>>> David Barak  10/8/2010 4:22 PM >>>
You will need to have PIM enabled on all of the interfaces between the source 
and receiver, and all of those devices need to have an RP (and they should be 
the same: easiest solution is statically enter this on all of them).  Also, 
make sure that PIM is enabled on the 8840's interface that matches the 
RP-address.

There's a lot more to optimization and troubleshooting, but that should provide 
initial connectivity.  Some good tutorials on the subject can be found at 
http://nanog.org/resources/tutorials/ 

David Barak
Need Geek Rock?  Try The Franchise: 
http://www.listentothefranchise.com 


--- On Fri, 10/8/10, Steven Pfister  wrote:

> From: Steven Pfister 
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast 
> routing...correction
> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net 
> Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 3:46 PM
> The line below reading "non-multicast
> traffic" should be "non-multicast traffic seems to be OK
> between the vlans"
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Steve Pfister
> Technical Coordinator, 
> The Office of Information Technology
> Dayton Public Schools
> 115 S. Ludlow St. 
> Dayton, OH 45402
>  
> Office (937) 542-3149
> Cell (937) 673-6779
> Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
> Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us 
> 
> 
> >>> "Steven Pfister" 
> 10/8/2010 3:39 PM >>>
> 
> We've got a client who needs to set up multicast routing
> between two sites (and between two vlans) in order for some
> video encoders at remote sites to find servers at the
> central site. I've never had experience with this. The setup
> looks something like:
> 
> encoders -> Cisco 4506 -> (CSME) -> Cisco 4510
> -> Cisco 8540 -> Cisco 3560 -> servers
> 
> The Cisco 4506 is the default gateway for the remote site
> vlan, let's call it vlan 22.
> The Cisco 4510 is the default gateway for the central site
> vlan, let's call it vlan 33
> 
> Also factoring into this, a previous (before my time here)
> set up of ip multicasting in sparse mode was done using
> other remote sites using 3640 routers with the 8540 as the
> RP. I don't know what it was intended for, or if it was ever
> successfully configured, but I'm not sure it's in use any
> more.
> 
> Here's what's been done so far... the Cisco 4506 now has:
> 
> ip multicast-routing
> ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1   [the address
> of the 8540]
> interface Vlan22
>ip pim sparse-dense-mode  [the video
> encoder vendor recomended this]
>  [there's also a ip helper-address pointing to a local
> server for dhcp]
> 
> The 4510 has:
> 
> ip multicast-routing
> ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1
> interface Vlan33
>ip pim sparse-dense-mode
> 
> Observations:
> - non-multicast traffic
> - the encoders never see the servers
> - "show ip pim neighbor" shows no results (just headers)
> - "show ip multi int vlan33" on the central site shows a
> large and growing number of multicast in packets, but zero
> out packets. Same results for vlan22 on the remote site.
> 
> Could the problem be igmp packets not getting exchanged?
> Like I said, I've never set up ip multicast routing before.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Steve Pfister
> Technical Coordinator, 
> The Office of Information Technology
> Dayton Public Schools
> 115 S. Ludlow St. 
> Dayton, OH 45402
>  
> Office (937) 542-3149
> Cell (937) 673-6779
> Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
> Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast routing...correction

2010-10-08 Thread David Barak
You will need to have PIM enabled on all of the interfaces between the source 
and receiver, and all of those devices need to have an RP (and they should be 
the same: easiest solution is statically enter this on all of them).  Also, 
make sure that PIM is enabled on the 8840's interface that matches the 
RP-address.

There's a lot more to optimization and troubleshooting, but that should provide 
initial connectivity.  Some good tutorials on the subject can be found at 
http://nanog.org/resources/tutorials/ 

David Barak
Need Geek Rock?  Try The Franchise: 
http://www.listentothefranchise.com


--- On Fri, 10/8/10, Steven Pfister  wrote:

> From: Steven Pfister 
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast 
> routing...correction
> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 3:46 PM
> The line below reading "non-multicast
> traffic" should be "non-multicast traffic seems to be OK
> between the vlans"
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Steve Pfister
> Technical Coordinator, 
> The Office of Information Technology
> Dayton Public Schools
> 115 S. Ludlow St. 
> Dayton, OH 45402
>  
> Office (937) 542-3149
> Cell (937) 673-6779
> Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
> Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us
> 
> 
> >>> "Steven Pfister" 
> 10/8/2010 3:39 PM >>>
> 
> We've got a client who needs to set up multicast routing
> between two sites (and between two vlans) in order for some
> video encoders at remote sites to find servers at the
> central site. I've never had experience with this. The setup
> looks something like:
> 
> encoders -> Cisco 4506 -> (CSME) -> Cisco 4510
> -> Cisco 8540 -> Cisco 3560 -> servers
> 
> The Cisco 4506 is the default gateway for the remote site
> vlan, let's call it vlan 22.
> The Cisco 4510 is the default gateway for the central site
> vlan, let's call it vlan 33
> 
> Also factoring into this, a previous (before my time here)
> set up of ip multicasting in sparse mode was done using
> other remote sites using 3640 routers with the 8540 as the
> RP. I don't know what it was intended for, or if it was ever
> successfully configured, but I'm not sure it's in use any
> more.
> 
> Here's what's been done so far... the Cisco 4506 now has:
> 
> ip multicast-routing
> ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1   [the address
> of the 8540]
> interface Vlan22
>    ip pim sparse-dense-mode  [the video
> encoder vendor recomended this]
>  [there's also a ip helper-address pointing to a local
> server for dhcp]
> 
> The 4510 has:
> 
> ip multicast-routing
> ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1
> interface Vlan33
>    ip pim sparse-dense-mode
> 
> Observations:
> - non-multicast traffic
> - the encoders never see the servers
> - "show ip pim neighbor" shows no results (just headers)
> - "show ip multi int vlan33" on the central site shows a
> large and growing number of multicast in packets, but zero
> out packets. Same results for vlan22 on the remote site.
> 
> Could the problem be igmp packets not getting exchanged?
> Like I said, I've never set up ip multicast routing before.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Steve Pfister
> Technical Coordinator, 
> The Office of Information Technology
> Dayton Public Schools
> 115 S. Ludlow St. 
> Dayton, OH 45402
>  
> Office (937) 542-3149
> Cell (937) 673-6779
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Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast routing...correction

2010-10-08 Thread John Neiberger
I have a few questions:

1. Can the servers ping the encoders?
2. Are the encoders connected at layer three and running PIM, or are
they layer two?
3. Is this source-specific multicast? If so, you need to be running
IGMP v3 on your layer two interfaces.

-John

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Steven Pfister  wrote:
> The line below reading "non-multicast traffic" should be "non-multicast 
> traffic seems to be OK between the vlans"
>
> Thanks!
>
> Steve Pfister
> Technical Coordinator,
> The Office of Information Technology
> Dayton Public Schools
> 115 S. Ludlow St.
> Dayton, OH 45402
>
> Office (937) 542-3149
> Cell (937) 673-6779
> Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
> Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us
>
>
 "Steven Pfister"  10/8/2010 3:39 PM >>>
>
> We've got a client who needs to set up multicast routing between two sites 
> (and between two vlans) in order for some video encoders at remote sites to 
> find servers at the central site. I've never had experience with this. The 
> setup looks something like:
>
> encoders -> Cisco 4506 -> (CSME) -> Cisco 4510 -> Cisco 8540 -> Cisco 3560 -> 
> servers
>
> The Cisco 4506 is the default gateway for the remote site vlan, let's call it 
> vlan 22.
> The Cisco 4510 is the default gateway for the central site vlan, let's call 
> it vlan 33
>
> Also factoring into this, a previous (before my time here) set up of ip 
> multicasting in sparse mode was done using other remote sites using 3640 
> routers with the 8540 as the RP. I don't know what it was intended for, or if 
> it was ever successfully configured, but I'm not sure it's in use any more.
>
> Here's what's been done so far... the Cisco 4506 now has:
>
> ip multicast-routing
> ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1   [the address of the 8540]
> interface Vlan22
>   ip pim sparse-dense-mode  [the video encoder vendor recomended this]
>  [there's also a ip helper-address pointing to a local server for dhcp]
>
> The 4510 has:
>
> ip multicast-routing
> ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1
> interface Vlan33
>   ip pim sparse-dense-mode
>
> Observations:
> - non-multicast traffic
> - the encoders never see the servers
> - "show ip pim neighbor" shows no results (just headers)
> - "show ip multi int vlan33" on the central site shows a large and growing 
> number of multicast in packets, but zero out packets. Same results for vlan22 
> on the remote site.
>
> Could the problem be igmp packets not getting exchanged? Like I said, I've 
> never set up ip multicast routing before.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Steve Pfister
> Technical Coordinator,
> The Office of Information Technology
> Dayton Public Schools
> 115 S. Ludlow St.
> Dayton, OH 45402
>
> Office (937) 542-3149
> Cell (937) 673-6779
> Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
> Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us
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Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicast routing...correction

2010-10-08 Thread Steven Pfister
The line below reading "non-multicast traffic" should be "non-multicast traffic 
seems to be OK between the vlans"

Thanks!

Steve Pfister
Technical Coordinator, 
The Office of Information Technology
Dayton Public Schools
115 S. Ludlow St. 
Dayton, OH 45402
 
Office (937) 542-3149
Cell (937) 673-6779
Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us


>>> "Steven Pfister"  10/8/2010 3:39 PM >>>

We've got a client who needs to set up multicast routing between two sites (and 
between two vlans) in order for some video encoders at remote sites to find 
servers at the central site. I've never had experience with this. The setup 
looks something like:

encoders -> Cisco 4506 -> (CSME) -> Cisco 4510 -> Cisco 8540 -> Cisco 3560 -> 
servers

The Cisco 4506 is the default gateway for the remote site vlan, let's call it 
vlan 22.
The Cisco 4510 is the default gateway for the central site vlan, let's call it 
vlan 33

Also factoring into this, a previous (before my time here) set up of ip 
multicasting in sparse mode was done using other remote sites using 3640 
routers with the 8540 as the RP. I don't know what it was intended for, or if 
it was ever successfully configured, but I'm not sure it's in use any more.

Here's what's been done so far... the Cisco 4506 now has:

ip multicast-routing
ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1   [the address of the 8540]
interface Vlan22
   ip pim sparse-dense-mode  [the video encoder vendor recomended this]
 [there's also a ip helper-address pointing to a local server for dhcp]

The 4510 has:

ip multicast-routing
ip pim rp-address 10.99.99.1
interface Vlan33
   ip pim sparse-dense-mode

Observations:
- non-multicast traffic
- the encoders never see the servers
- "show ip pim neighbor" shows no results (just headers)
- "show ip multi int vlan33" on the central site shows a large and growing 
number of multicast in packets, but zero out packets. Same results for vlan22 
on the remote site.

Could the problem be igmp packets not getting exchanged? Like I said, I've 
never set up ip multicast routing before.

Thanks!


Steve Pfister
Technical Coordinator, 
The Office of Information Technology
Dayton Public Schools
115 S. Ludlow St. 
Dayton, OH 45402
 
Office (937) 542-3149
Cell (937) 673-6779
Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us 



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