[c-nsp] Physical Network TAP devices

2017-07-17 Thread Nick Cutting
Good afternoon,

We have a use case now to capture traffic at one of our egress points, and we 
need to use network taps.  We need at least 2 sources and two destinations, in 
a pair of devices. - Copper 1 gig at this point.  Is anyone using Copper/ Fiber 
Taps at 10g?

Can I please get some feedback on some of the brands of taps that you fine 
people use?

We were looking at gigamon, but I have not used TAPs in a very long time.  We 
have a need to move to a physical device because of limitations in the hardware 
in where we need to capture the traffic.  

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.



Thank you,
Nick Cutting 




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Re: [c-nsp] Physical Network TAP devices

2017-07-19 Thread Rick Martin
We have yet to make a purchase but over the years we have looked at several 
with GigaMon being one of the leaders. An interesting option that I think we 
will seriously consider is Cisco Nexus 9K platform running what Cisco calls 
Data Broker. I find it appealing that the Nexus switch can run in hybrid mode 
and function both as a tap aggregation device as well as a normal Nexus switch. 
This option can reportedly scale up to 100Gbps

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/cloud-systems-management/nexus-data-broker/data_sheet_c78-729452.html

Other options we have looked at include;

Anue
Arista - similar option as Cisco Data Broker
GigaMon
Ixia



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From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Nick 
Cutting
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 12:39 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Tom Mazzola
Subject: [c-nsp] Physical Network TAP devices

Good afternoon,

We have a use case now to capture traffic at one of our egress points, and we 
need to use network taps.  We need at least 2 sources and two destinations, in 
a pair of devices. - Copper 1 gig at this point.  Is anyone using Copper/ Fiber 
Taps at 10g?

Can I please get some feedback on some of the brands of taps that you fine 
people use?

We were looking at gigamon, but I have not used TAPs in a very long time.  We 
have a need to move to a physical device because of limitations in the hardware 
in where we need to capture the traffic.  

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.



Thank you,
Nick Cutting 




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Re: [c-nsp] Physical Network TAP devices

2017-07-19 Thread Murphy, William
On the packet broker side we are using Arista 7504R and getting a ton of 
performance per dollar spent...  Arista has nice packet steering capability and 
we are really happy with the solution...  If you need some advanced features 
like packet de-duplication you may need to shell out the big bucks and go with 
GigaMON or Ixia or whatever...

Just looked at Big Switch Networks Big Monitoring Fabric in the past month and 
it sounds very interesting...  

On the tap side I've used taps from Netscout and didn't have any issues at 
all...


From: cisco-nsp  on behalf of Rick Martin 

Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 10:50 AM
To: Nick Cutting; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Tom Mazzola
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Physical Network TAP devices

We have yet to make a purchase but over the years we have looked at several 
with GigaMon being one of the leaders. An interesting option that I think we 
will seriously consider is Cisco Nexus 9K platform running what Cisco calls 
Data Broker. I find it appealing that the Nexus switch can run in hybrid mode 
and function both as a tap aggregation device as well as a normal Nexus switch. 
This option can reportedly scale up to 100Gbps

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cisco.com_c_en_us_products_collateral_cloud-2Dsystems-2Dmanagement_nexus-2Ddata-2Dbroker_data-5Fsheet-5Fc78-2D729452.html&d=DwICAg&c=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ&r=KfZDYG9Z0HjJnyM7sFaf--H7klz6hYbHw7jZxQxoDkc&m=IIN-uK0EBf0lXMn3nOn-yoNwZ3Gl8CSfb8fG0G7em0o&s=NoIEH98o6QTtW9jy6L58SWtNqeExmo7UmOQx629KMXg&e=

Other options we have looked at include;

Anue
Arista - similar option as Cisco Data Broker
GigaMon
Ixia



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Cutting
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 12:39 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Tom Mazzola
Subject: [c-nsp] Physical Network TAP devices

Good afternoon,

We have a use case now to capture traffic at one of our egress points, and we 
need to use network taps.  We need at least 2 sources and two destinations, in 
a pair of devices. - Copper 1 gig at this point.  Is anyone using Copper/ Fiber 
Taps at 10g?

Can I please get some feedback on some of the brands of taps that you fine 
people use?

We were looking at gigamon, but I have not used TAPs in a very long time.  We 
have a need to move to a physical device because of limitations in the hardware 
in where we need to capture the traffic.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.



Thank you,
Nick Cutting




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Re: [c-nsp] Physical Network TAP devices

2017-07-19 Thread James Bensley
On 17 July 2017 at 18:39, Nick Cutting  wrote:
> Good afternoon,
>
> We have a use case now to capture traffic at one of our egress points, and we 
> need to use network taps.  We need at least 2 sources and two destinations, 
> in a pair of devices. - Copper 1 gig at this point.  Is anyone using Copper/ 
> Fiber Taps at 10g?
>
> Can I please get some feedback on some of the brands of taps that you fine 
> people use?
>
> We were looking at gigamon, but I have not used TAPs in a very long time.  We 
> have a need to move to a physical device because of limitations in the 
> hardware in where we need to capture the traffic.

Anytime I have had such a requirement, it has never turned into
actually buying a tap device. Specifically for 1G copper we just SPAN
the port. A small 8 port switch with a copper and SFP uplink port with
SPAN/port mirroring capabilities are usually cheap. Then you can have
6 links for example to it and SPAN them at will without a trip to site
to re-patch anything.

Similarly we needed to mirror some 10G ports once but only had servers
with 1G ports in those remote DCs, we just used a R-SPAN (GRE tunnel)
back to another DC.

You might need to elaborate on your requirements more. The only
requirement we have had for an actual "tap" device is for passive
fiber taps on more than 1Gbps (so 10Gbps, as 1G ports are just so
cheap these days).

Cheers,
James.
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Re: [c-nsp] Physical Network TAP devices

2017-07-19 Thread Juergen Marenda
For the 1G thing, we use this one

http://www.pandacomdirekt.com/en/products/wdm/transponder-cards/267-gbps/2-c
hannel-up-to-267gbps-3r.html

With that, we can put loops in (missing at for example alcatel SAS)
Do the medias-conversion (wdm/singlemode to cooper or whatever the next
device is.

You can program the output of any of the four ports to be the input of one
of the four.

So, we have 1 port line , 2 port our router , two port with gig output for
each direction,
So we can tap 1G full duplex and put it to whatever collecting device (silk
?)

Also, we use it as an STM1 Switch for our last 155MBit line 
(switch the line to one or another router, so we do not need the power
consuming atm-switch any more)

Juergen.

PS Hope this was not too much advertising ?

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