Re: [cisco-voip] 7841 elearning tutorial?

[Anthony Holloway]

This was news to me as well.  Very handy resource.  Thanks Cisco!


On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Matthew Loraditch <
mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com> wrote:

>  Where in THE HECK have these been all my life??!?!?!?
>
>
>
> Beer for everyone!
>
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf
> Of *Chris Ward (chrward)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 3:05 PM
> *To:* Jason Aarons (AM); cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] 7841 elearning tutorial?
>
>
>
> Hi Jason,
>
>
>
> Hopefully these are what you are looking for.
>
>
>
> All phone tutorials are here:
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collaboration-endpoints/collaborationendpointtutorials.html
>
>
>
> 7800 is here:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/assets/swa/flash/ip_phone_78xx/index.html
>
>
>
>
>
> +Chris
>
> TME - MediaSense and Unity Connection
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net
> ] *On Behalf Of *Jason Aarons (AM)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:24 PM
> *To:* cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] 7841 elearning tutorial?
>
>
>
> I didn’t find any eLearning tutorials for the new 78XX series.  Those were
> nice when they had them.  Let’s end users play with the phone before they
> get it.
>
>
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Re: [cisco-voip] 7841 feedback

[Brian Meade]

They were pretty buggy when they first came out.  I had a few cases with a
few bugs each.  They may be more stable now.


On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Jason Aarons (AM) <
jason.aar...@dimensiondata.com> wrote:

>  Anyone have any rants or raves for the 7841 phones? About to deploy 80
> with CUCM 10.5x.
>
>
>
>
>
> It would appear you have no indication of missed calls on the screen?
>
>
> https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/12189866/missed-calls-notification-7841
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [cisco-voip] 7841 elearning tutorial?

[Chris Ward (chrward)]

I can't take all the credit, my teammate, David Scott, just passed this link to 
me when I asked. Enjoy!

+Chris
TME - MediaSense and Unity Connection

From: Matthew Loraditch [mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 3:20 PM
To: Chris Ward (chrward); Jason Aarons (AM); cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: RE: 7841 elearning tutorial?

Where in THE HECK have these been all my life??!?!?!?

Beer for everyone!


Matthew G. Loraditch - CCNP-Voice, CCNA-R&S, CCDA
1965 Greenspring Drive
Timonium, MD 21093

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fax.  410.252.9284

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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Chris 
Ward (chrward)
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 3:05 PM
To: Jason Aarons (AM); cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 7841 elearning tutorial?

Hi Jason,

Hopefully these are what you are looking for.

All phone tutorials are here:
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collaboration-endpoints/collaborationendpointtutorials.html

7800 is here:
http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/assets/swa/flash/ip_phone_78xx/index.html


+Chris
TME - MediaSense and Unity Connection

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jason 
Aarons (AM)
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:24 PM
To: cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: [cisco-voip] 7841 elearning tutorial?

I didn't find any eLearning tutorials for the new 78XX series.  Those were nice 
when they had them.  Let's end users play with the phone before they get it.

Jason Aarons
Consultant
Dimension Data
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Re: [cisco-voip] 7841 feedback

[Bill Talley]

No boot status message or firmware upgrade indicators.

Sent from an Apple iOS device with very tiny touchscreen input keys.
 Please excude my typtos.

On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:25 PM, "Jason Aarons (AM)" <
jason.aar...@dimensiondata.com> wrote:

  Anyone have any rants or raves for the 7841 phones? About to deploy 80
with CUCM 10.5x.





It would appear you have no indication of missed calls on the screen?

https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/12189866/missed-calls-notification-7841





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Re: [cisco-voip] 7841 elearning tutorial?

[Matthew Loraditch]

Where in THE HECK have these been all my life??!?!?!?

Beer for everyone!


Matthew G. Loraditch - CCNP-Voice, CCNA-R&S, CCDA
1965 Greenspring Drive
Timonium, MD 21093

direct voice. 443.541.1518
fax.  410.252.9284

Twitter  |  
Facebook  | 
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Support
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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Chris 
Ward (chrward)
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 3:05 PM
To: Jason Aarons (AM); cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 7841 elearning tutorial?

Hi Jason,

Hopefully these are what you are looking for.

All phone tutorials are here:
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collaboration-endpoints/collaborationendpointtutorials.html

7800 is here:
http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/assets/swa/flash/ip_phone_78xx/index.html


+Chris
TME - MediaSense and Unity Connection

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jason 
Aarons (AM)
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:24 PM
To: cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: [cisco-voip] 7841 elearning tutorial?

I didn't find any eLearning tutorials for the new 78XX series.  Those were nice 
when they had them.  Let's end users play with the phone before they get it.

Jason Aarons
Consultant
Dimension Data
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Re: [cisco-voip] 7841 elearning tutorial?

[Chris Ward (chrward)]

Hi Jason,

Hopefully these are what you are looking for.

All phone tutorials are here:
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collaboration-endpoints/collaborationendpointtutorials.html

7800 is here:
http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/assets/swa/flash/ip_phone_78xx/index.html


+Chris
TME - MediaSense and Unity Connection

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jason 
Aarons (AM)
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:24 PM
To: cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: [cisco-voip] 7841 elearning tutorial?

I didn't find any eLearning tutorials for the new 78XX series.  Those were nice 
when they had them.  Let's end users play with the phone before they get it.

Jason Aarons
Consultant
Dimension Data
+1-904-338-3245

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[cisco-voip] 7841 elearning tutorial?

[Jason Aarons (AM)]

I didn't find any eLearning tutorials for the new 78XX series.  Those were nice 
when they had them.  Let's end users play with the phone before they get it.

Jason Aarons
Consultant
Dimension Data
+1-904-338-3245



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Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 9+ and SIP trunk provider w/o CUBE

[Brian Meade]

I agree with you that LUA scripting is much more powerful but I use it as a
last resort just do to supportability.  Just because I know how to do
something fancy in a LUA script doesn't mean the next guy is going to be
able to maintain/troubleshoot my script whereas sip-profiles on the CUBE
are much simpler and have full TAC support in case anything goes wrong.


On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Anthony Holloway <
avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not to stir the pot, but it's currently my opinion that SIP normalization
> on CUCM via Lua scripting is more powerful than SIP profiles in IOS.
>  That's not to say that I recommend a sans CUBE design, because I don't,
> but I am saying that CUBE is not a preferred solution because of its SIP
> normalization capabilities.  Which are pretty basic, when compared to the
> full control, offered by Lua scripting in CUCM.
>
> Does anyone think otherwise?  I'm open to being corrected here.  Maybe
> it's my misunderstanding of SIP normalization in IOS that makes me think
> this way.  I do have real world experience solving SIP issues with both IOS
> and CUCM, albeit a small amount of experience.
>
> And on the main topic, yes it would work with CUBE, but CUBE provides you
> with an extra layer of control, security, and simplifies your design.  If
> you're having CUCM insert MTPs anyway (think CTI and RFC2833
> incompatibilities and DO to EO conversions) might as well use that same MTP
> router as CUBE and have CUBE locally control the media resources
> 
> on itself.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <
> rratl...@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>>  +1
>>
>>  The IOS features to manipulate SIP headers are very powerful and will
>> let you workaround any interworking problems between the SBC and UCM quite
>> easily.
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>>  On Aug 12, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Brian Meade  wrote:
>>
>>  Robert,
>>
>>  You can technically get away with just using the provider's SBC but be
>> prepared for a lot of going back and forth with them to solve any interop
>> issues.  I like having my own SBC/CUBE so that I can modify whatever I want
>> and have more control over the setup.
>>
>>  It's also nice to be able to completely hide your internal network
>> behind the CUBE.
>>
>>  Brian
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Robert Blayzor 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am planning on replacing an again CallManager deployment with SCCP
>>> phones with a new CUCM 10.x and SIP phones.
>>>
>>> Our service provider can provide all of our trunking and PSTN
>>> connectivity via a direct SIP trunk, so I no longer need a PSTN gateway or
>>> PRI card, etc.  (or at least I should not).
>>>
>>> We will be peering SIP from the CUCM to our providers SBC, so the
>>> question begs to ask on our side is a CUBE absolutely required to make this
>>> work?  Pros/Cons?  I'd rather not have to add a CUBE in if I don't have to.
>>>
>>> Since the phones are native SIP as is the CallManager I'm trying to
>>> understand why a CUBE is required? (or is it not?)
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> -Robert
>>>
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[cisco-voip] 7841 feedback

[Jason Aarons (AM)]

Anyone have any rants or raves for the 7841 phones? About to deploy 80 with 
CUCM 10.5x.


It would appear you have no indication of missed calls on the screen?
https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/12189866/missed-calls-notification-7841


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Re: [cisco-voip] CME 9.5 and 9971 with Mobility/SRN

[Jason Aarons (AM)]

No the CME 9971 doesn’t provide any indication the line is in use, unlike 
CallManager.

Jason Aarons
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From: bmead...@gmail.com [mailto:bmead...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meade
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:07 PM
To: Jason Aarons (AM)
Cc: cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CME 9.5 and 9971 with Mobility/SRN


Does the 9971 show the line is in use?  You may have to select the line and 
then hit Resume.

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Jason Aarons (AM) 
mailto:jason.aar...@dimensiondata.com>> wrote:
I have CME mobility working, but can’t get recall to work on a 9971.

Internal call goes to 9971 which then calls out to PSTN cell phone/PRI via 
Mobility.  Holding my cell phone I walk office and on 9971 and don’t see how to 
Recall.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucme/admin/configuration/guide/cmeadm/cmesnr.html#pgfId-1014522

Anyone have this working?

voice register global
mode cme
source-address 10.10.68.254 port 5060
max-dn 20
max-pool 20
tftp-path flash:
create profile sync 0015664482620188
conference hardware
camera
video
!
voice register dn  10
number 4002
name scph1
mobility
snr calling-number local
snr 919043383245 delay 0 timeout 20 cfwd-noan 4220
snr ring-stop
!
voice register template  1
softkeys idle  Mobility
softkeys connected  Mobility
!
voice register pool  10
busy-trigger-per-button 1
id mac 1CAA.0711.D964
type 9971
number 1 dn 10
template 1
dtmf-relay rtp-nte
voice-class codec 1
description Jason Test
camera
video



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Re: [cisco-voip] CME 9.5 and 9971 with Mobility/SRN

[Brian Meade]

Does the 9971 show the line is in use?  You may have to select the line and
then hit Resume.


On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Jason Aarons (AM) <
jason.aar...@dimensiondata.com> wrote:

>  I have CME mobility working, but can’t get recall to work on a 9971.
>
>
>
> Internal call goes to 9971 which then calls out to PSTN cell phone/PRI via
> Mobility.  Holding my cell phone I walk office and on 9971 and don’t see
> how to Recall.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucme/admin/configuration/guide/cmeadm/cmesnr.html#pgfId-1014522
>
>
>
> Anyone have this working?
>
>
>
> voice register global
>
> mode cme
>
> source-address 10.10.68.254 port 5060
>
> max-dn 20
>
> max-pool 20
>
> tftp-path flash:
>
> create profile sync 0015664482620188
>
> conference hardware
>
> camera
>
> video
>
> !
>
> voice register dn  10
>
> number 4002
>
> name scph1
>
> mobility
>
> snr calling-number local
>
> snr 919043383245 delay 0 timeout 20 cfwd-noan 4220
>
> snr ring-stop
>
> !
>
> voice register template  1
>
> softkeys idle  Mobility
>
> softkeys connected  Mobility
>
> !
>
> voice register pool  10
>
> busy-trigger-per-button 1
>
> id mac 1CAA.0711.D964
>
> type 9971
>
> number 1 dn 10
>
> template 1
>
> dtmf-relay rtp-nte
>
> voice-class codec 1
>
> description Jason Test
>
> camera
>
> video
>
>
>
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[cisco-voip] Cisco 2811 functioning as an SS7 gateway (ITP)

[Rich Davies]

Hello,

Since this pertains to telephony/LEC functions I thought maybe someone on
this mailing list might have some input on this.

Was wondering if anyone on this list is using a Cisco 2811 as an ITP (for
SS7 STP functions) and if so is this module "required" to do T1 TDM:

VWIC-2T1/E1-RAN

The following documentation states that is required however the more I read
up on the VWIC-2T1/E1-RAN has additional features that I do not think I
require (such as RAN transport over IP, or 2G/3G):

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/ip-transfer-point/product_data_sheet09186a00800925b1.html

I am looking to potentially use a 2811 as an ITP and it has a TDM side that
will face a LEC for SS7 signalling.Trying to determine if the
VWIC-2T1/E1-RAN is the only module that would work in this application, or
can I use one of the older (and less expensive) T1 controller WICS (such as
VWIC2-2MFT-T1/E1)?

Would rather buy a few of a cheaper linecard/module than only have 1 or 2
of the more expensive one.

On another note - I would personally rather use a 7206VXR with NPE-G1 to do
this however Cisco does not have any IOS images for the NPE-G1 anymore
(even though it is a quite capable RP if used in the proper environment).
Can not locate an ITP/SS7 image for the NPE-G1, let alone any for that RP :(

Any input would be greatly appreciated.



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[cisco-voip] CME 9.5 and 9971 with Mobility/SRN

[Jason Aarons (AM)]

I have CME mobility working, but can't get recall to work on a 9971.

Internal call goes to 9971 which then calls out to PSTN cell phone/PRI via 
Mobility.  Holding my cell phone I walk office and on 9971 and don't see how to 
Recall.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucme/admin/configuration/guide/cmeadm/cmesnr.html#pgfId-1014522

Anyone have this working?

voice register global
mode cme
source-address 10.10.68.254 port 5060
max-dn 20
max-pool 20
tftp-path flash:
create profile sync 0015664482620188
conference hardware
camera
video
!
voice register dn  10
number 4002
name scph1
mobility
snr calling-number local
snr 919043383245 delay 0 timeout 20 cfwd-noan 4220
snr ring-stop
!
voice register template  1
softkeys idle  Mobility
softkeys connected  Mobility
!
voice register pool  10
busy-trigger-per-button 1
id mac 1CAA.0711.D964
type 9971
number 1 dn 10
template 1
dtmf-relay rtp-nte
voice-class codec 1
description Jason Test
camera
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Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 9+ and SIP trunk provider w/o CUBE

[Anthony Holloway]

Not to stir the pot, but it's currently my opinion that SIP normalization
on CUCM via Lua scripting is more powerful than SIP profiles in IOS.
 That's not to say that I recommend a sans CUBE design, because I don't,
but I am saying that CUBE is not a preferred solution because of its SIP
normalization capabilities.  Which are pretty basic, when compared to the
full control, offered by Lua scripting in CUCM.

Does anyone think otherwise?  I'm open to being corrected here.  Maybe it's
my misunderstanding of SIP normalization in IOS that makes me think this
way.  I do have real world experience solving SIP issues with both IOS and
CUCM, albeit a small amount of experience.

And on the main topic, yes it would work with CUBE, but CUBE provides you
with an extra layer of control, security, and simplifies your design.  If
you're having CUCM insert MTPs anyway (think CTI and RFC2833
incompatibilities and DO to EO conversions) might as well use that same MTP
router as CUBE and have CUBE locally control the media resources

on itself.


On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)  wrote:

>  +1
>
>  The IOS features to manipulate SIP headers are very powerful and will
> let you workaround any interworking problems between the SBC and UCM quite
> easily.
>
> -Ryan
>
>  On Aug 12, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Brian Meade  wrote:
>
>  Robert,
>
>  You can technically get away with just using the provider's SBC but be
> prepared for a lot of going back and forth with them to solve any interop
> issues.  I like having my own SBC/CUBE so that I can modify whatever I want
> and have more control over the setup.
>
>  It's also nice to be able to completely hide your internal network
> behind the CUBE.
>
>  Brian
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Robert Blayzor 
> wrote:
>
>> I am planning on replacing an again CallManager deployment with SCCP
>> phones with a new CUCM 10.x and SIP phones.
>>
>> Our service provider can provide all of our trunking and PSTN
>> connectivity via a direct SIP trunk, so I no longer need a PSTN gateway or
>> PRI card, etc.  (or at least I should not).
>>
>> We will be peering SIP from the CUCM to our providers SBC, so the
>> question begs to ask on our side is a CUBE absolutely required to make this
>> work?  Pros/Cons?  I'd rather not have to add a CUBE in if I don't have to.
>>
>> Since the phones are native SIP as is the CallManager I'm trying to
>> understand why a CUBE is required? (or is it not?)
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> -Robert
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 9+ and SIP trunk provider w/o CUBE

[Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)]

+1

The IOS features to manipulate SIP headers are very powerful and will let you 
workaround any interworking problems between the SBC and UCM quite easily.

-Ryan

On Aug 12, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Brian Meade 
mailto:bmead...@vt.edu>> wrote:

Robert,

You can technically get away with just using the provider's SBC but be prepared 
for a lot of going back and forth with them to solve any interop issues.  I 
like having my own SBC/CUBE so that I can modify whatever I want and have more 
control over the setup.

It's also nice to be able to completely hide your internal network behind the 
CUBE.

Brian


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Robert Blayzor 
mailto:rblayzor.b...@inoc.net>> wrote:
I am planning on replacing an again CallManager deployment with SCCP phones 
with a new CUCM 10.x and SIP phones.

Our service provider can provide all of our trunking and PSTN connectivity via 
a direct SIP trunk, so I no longer need a PSTN gateway or PRI card, etc.  (or 
at least I should not).

We will be peering SIP from the CUCM to our providers SBC, so the question begs 
to ask on our side is a CUBE absolutely required to make this work?  Pros/Cons? 
 I'd rather not have to add a CUBE in if I don't have to.

Since the phones are native SIP as is the CallManager I'm trying to understand 
why a CUBE is required? (or is it not?)

TIA

-Robert



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