Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd party conference phones

[Ed Leatherman]

That explains it thanks !

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Walenta, Philip  wrote:

> Third party devices (SIP advanced or basic) are not allowed to use CM
> conference resources.  You need to mix on box or redirect somewhere else.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 28, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Nick Thompson  wrote:
> >
> > I just checked with a customer who has a bunch of the FLX2’s deployed
> and he is seeing the same behavior.  He also tested with the standard SIP
> device and advanced SIP device with no change.  He was going to call Revo
> and see if there is something he is missing or if it is just a limitation
> of the device firmware.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >> On Apr 28, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Ed Leatherman 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Circling around on this thread,
> >>
> >> So we're trying out revolabs FLX2.
> >>
> >> They are pretty easy to use and have some nice features. The unit
> reminds you to put everything back on the charging station after a call is
> over, which is an interesting touch.
> >>
> >> Main concern for me right now is that you cannot invoke an ad hoc
> conference that uses a cm controlled conference bridge (that I can tell)
> from the unit. The conference function can merely join the two line
> appearances that the unit has.
> >>
> >> We're still going to try it out in one of our rooms where the executive
> absolutely had to have "wireless" but I don't see widely deploying it
> elsewhere; people use the ad hoc bridges an aweful lot.
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Nick Thompson 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Revolabs FLX2 - http://www.revolabs.com/flx2
> >>
> >> Revolabs is the OEM for the 8831 conference phone as well.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Ed Leatherman 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello
> >>>
> >>> I've had a few requests for "Wireless" conference phones lately for
> some medium sized rooms. In these cases the executive wants to get any
> cables etc off the table, so a wired base station w/ cordless module for
> the table fits the bill as much as a WiFi device would. And because
> "Wireless"!
> >>>
> >>> I'm curious what other people might be using, I see that polycom has
> the SoundStation2W that uses a POTS line. I've also had some folks using a
> Jabra Speak510 paired with some of the bluetooth capable Cisco Phones, but
> this only works well in small rooms.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd party conference phones

[Walenta, Philip]

Third party devices (SIP advanced or basic) are not allowed to use CM 
conference resources.  You need to mix on box or redirect somewhere else.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Nick Thompson  wrote:
> 
> I just checked with a customer who has a bunch of the FLX2’s deployed and he 
> is seeing the same behavior.  He also tested with the standard SIP device and 
> advanced SIP device with no change.  He was going to call Revo and see if 
> there is something he is missing or if it is just a limitation of the device 
> firmware.
> 
> Nick
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Ed Leatherman  wrote:
>> 
>> Circling around on this thread,
>> 
>> So we're trying out revolabs FLX2. 
>> 
>> They are pretty easy to use and have some nice features. The unit reminds 
>> you to put everything back on the charging station after a call is over, 
>> which is an interesting touch. 
>> 
>> Main concern for me right now is that you cannot invoke an ad hoc conference 
>> that uses a cm controlled conference bridge (that I can tell) from the unit. 
>> The conference function can merely join the two line appearances that the 
>> unit has. 
>> 
>> We're still going to try it out in one of our rooms where the executive 
>> absolutely had to have "wireless" but I don't see widely deploying it 
>> elsewhere; people use the ad hoc bridges an aweful lot.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Nick Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> Revolabs FLX2 - http://www.revolabs.com/flx2 
>> 
>> Revolabs is the OEM for the 8831 conference phone as well.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Ed Leatherman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> I've had a few requests for "Wireless" conference phones lately for some 
>>> medium sized rooms. In these cases the executive wants to get any cables 
>>> etc off the table, so a wired base station w/ cordless module for the table 
>>> fits the bill as much as a WiFi device would. And because "Wireless"!
>>> 
>>> I'm curious what other people might be using, I see that polycom has the 
>>> SoundStation2W that uses a POTS line. I've also had some folks using a 
>>> Jabra Speak510 paired with some of the bluetooth capable Cisco Phones, but 
>>> this only works well in small rooms.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd party conference phones

[Roger Wiklund]

We are using a couple of SNOM conference phones, they do the job just
fine. Not wireless but PoE.

https://www.snom.com/en/products/snom-complementary-line/snom-meetingpoint-sip-conference-phone/

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Nick Thompson  wrote:
> I just checked with a customer who has a bunch of the FLX2’s deployed and he 
> is seeing the same behavior.  He also tested with the standard SIP device and 
> advanced SIP device with no change.  He was going to call Revo and see if 
> there is something he is missing or if it is just a limitation of the device 
> firmware.
>
> Nick
>
>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Ed Leatherman  wrote:
>>
>> Circling around on this thread,
>>
>> So we're trying out revolabs FLX2.
>>
>> They are pretty easy to use and have some nice features. The unit reminds 
>> you to put everything back on the charging station after a call is over, 
>> which is an interesting touch.
>>
>> Main concern for me right now is that you cannot invoke an ad hoc conference 
>> that uses a cm controlled conference bridge (that I can tell) from the unit. 
>> The conference function can merely join the two line appearances that the 
>> unit has.
>>
>> We're still going to try it out in one of our rooms where the executive 
>> absolutely had to have "wireless" but I don't see widely deploying it 
>> elsewhere; people use the ad hoc bridges an aweful lot.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Nick Thompson  wrote:
>>
>> Revolabs FLX2 - http://www.revolabs.com/flx2
>>
>> Revolabs is the OEM for the 8831 conference phone as well.
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Ed Leatherman  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I've had a few requests for "Wireless" conference phones lately for some 
>>> medium sized rooms. In these cases the executive wants to get any cables 
>>> etc off the table, so a wired base station w/ cordless module for the table 
>>> fits the bill as much as a WiFi device would. And because "Wireless"!
>>>
>>> I'm curious what other people might be using, I see that polycom has the 
>>> SoundStation2W that uses a POTS line. I've also had some folks using a 
>>> Jabra Speak510 paired with some of the bluetooth capable Cisco Phones, but 
>>> this only works well in small rooms.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd party conference phones

[Nick Thompson]

I just checked with a customer who has a bunch of the FLX2’s deployed and he is 
seeing the same behavior.  He also tested with the standard SIP device and 
advanced SIP device with no change.  He was going to call Revo and see if there 
is something he is missing or if it is just a limitation of the device firmware.

Nick

> On Apr 28, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Ed Leatherman  wrote:
> 
> Circling around on this thread,
> 
> So we're trying out revolabs FLX2. 
> 
> They are pretty easy to use and have some nice features. The unit reminds you 
> to put everything back on the charging station after a call is over, which is 
> an interesting touch. 
> 
> Main concern for me right now is that you cannot invoke an ad hoc conference 
> that uses a cm controlled conference bridge (that I can tell) from the unit. 
> The conference function can merely join the two line appearances that the 
> unit has. 
> 
> We're still going to try it out in one of our rooms where the executive 
> absolutely had to have "wireless" but I don't see widely deploying it 
> elsewhere; people use the ad hoc bridges an aweful lot.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Nick Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Revolabs FLX2 - http://www.revolabs.com/flx2 
> 
> Revolabs is the OEM for the 8831 conference phone as well.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Ed Leatherman  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> I've had a few requests for "Wireless" conference phones lately for some 
>> medium sized rooms. In these cases the executive wants to get any cables etc 
>> off the table, so a wired base station w/ cordless module for the table fits 
>> the bill as much as a WiFi device would. And because "Wireless"!
>> 
>> I'm curious what other people might be using, I see that polycom has the 
>> SoundStation2W that uses a POTS line. I've also had some folks using a Jabra 
>> Speak510 paired with some of the bluetooth capable Cisco Phones, but this 
>> only works well in small rooms.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd party conference phones

[Ed Leatherman]

Circling around on this thread,

So we're trying out revolabs FLX2.

They are pretty easy to use and have some nice features. The unit reminds
you to put everything back on the charging station after a call is over,
which is an interesting touch.

Main concern for me right now is that you cannot invoke an ad hoc
conference that uses a cm controlled conference bridge (that I can tell)
from the unit. The conference function can merely join the two line
appearances that the unit has.

We're still going to try it out in one of our rooms where the executive
absolutely had to have "wireless" but I don't see widely deploying it
elsewhere; people use the ad hoc bridges an aweful lot.

Ed



On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Nick Thompson  wrote:

>
>  Revolabs FLX2 - http://www.revolabs.com/flx2
>
>  Revolabs is the OEM for the 8831 conference phone as well.
>
>
>  On Apr 9, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Ed Leatherman  wrote:
>
>  Hello
>
>  I've had a few requests for "Wireless" conference phones lately for some
> medium sized rooms. In these cases the executive wants to get any cables
> etc off the table, so a wired base station w/ cordless module for the table
> fits the bill as much as a WiFi device would. And because "Wireless"!
>
>  I'm curious what other people might be using, I see that polycom has the
> SoundStation2W that uses a POTS line. I've also had some folks using a
> Jabra Speak510 paired with some of the bluetooth capable Cisco Phones, but
> this only works well in small rooms.
>
>  Thanks!
>
>
>
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Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd party conference phones

[Scott Voll]

You are ALWAYS going to have wires.  if it's wireless it will always have a
minimum of power wires.

With that said, we had the same issue 2 years ago before the 8831 came
out.  We went with the FLX2 from revo labs like nick suggested.

everyone loved the fact that there was NO wires.  Here we are 2 years
later. they are a pain to setup.  the batteries are shot so $$$ to
replace batteries.  vendor batteries for the phone, the mics, and the
speaker.  and we have had about 1/3 have issues that require base
replacement (known issue).   People are cranked that the last people didn't
put them on the charger so the batteries are dead when they need them.  you
don't just simply change out the mic or speaker as they are all sync'd
together.  it is a support problem.  (we really have a hard time not
telling them, we told them so).

So now as the base units keep failing, we are replacing them with the
8831's with the wireless mics.  yes they are made by revo labs also, but
they are built into CM and don't require an AD user for each phone like the
FLX2.

If revolabs is reading... if you want to make these a valuable phone,
have cisco build it into CM.  Allow for easier syncing between devices for
replacing devices.  and fix the base units.  I think generally it's a nice
idea, just not fully baked.

YMMV

Scott


On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Ed Leatherman 
wrote:

> I have an 8831 setup for that reason, but yeah the base has wires and
> dadgumit when i was big cheese at ohio state my conference phone didn't
> have wires! ;)
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Charles Goldsmith 
> wrote:
>
>> Cisco 8831 has wireless mics, but the speaker/base is wired.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Ed Leatherman 
>> wrote:
>> > Hello
>> >
>> > I've had a few requests for "Wireless" conference phones lately for some
>> > medium sized rooms. In these cases the executive wants to get any
>> cables etc
>> > off the table, so a wired base station w/ cordless module for the table
>> fits
>> > the bill as much as a WiFi device would. And because "Wireless"!
>> >
>> > I'm curious what other people might be using, I see that polycom has the
>> > SoundStation2W that uses a POTS line. I've also had some folks using a
>> Jabra
>> > Speak510 paired with some of the bluetooth capable Cisco Phones, but
>> this
>> > only works well in small rooms.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd party conference phones

[Sean Knight via cisco-voip]

Some of the 8831s come with wireless mics and they are rechargeable.

http://www.compsource.com/pn/CP8831JK9/Cisco-91/?src=F




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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ed 
Leatherman
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 10:07 AM
To: Charles Goldsmith
Cc: Cisco VOIP
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd party conference phones

I have an 8831 setup for that reason, but yeah the base has wires and dadgumit 
when i was big cheese at ohio state my conference phone didn't have wires! ;)

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Charles Goldsmith 
mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>> wrote:
Cisco 8831 has wireless mics, but the speaker/base is wired.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Ed Leatherman 
mailto:ealeather...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I've had a few requests for "Wireless" conference phones lately for some
> medium sized rooms. In these cases the executive wants to get any cables etc
> off the table, so a wired base station w/ cordless module for the table fits
> the bill as much as a WiFi device would. And because "Wireless"!
>
> I'm curious what other people might be using, I see that polycom has the
> SoundStation2W that uses a POTS line. I've also had some folks using a Jabra
> Speak510 paired with some of the bluetooth capable Cisco Phones, but this
> only works well in small rooms.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd party conference phones

[Ed Leatherman]

I have an 8831 setup for that reason, but yeah the base has wires and
dadgumit when i was big cheese at ohio state my conference phone didn't
have wires! ;)

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Charles Goldsmith 
wrote:

> Cisco 8831 has wireless mics, but the speaker/base is wired.
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Ed Leatherman 
> wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I've had a few requests for "Wireless" conference phones lately for some
> > medium sized rooms. In these cases the executive wants to get any cables
> etc
> > off the table, so a wired base station w/ cordless module for the table
> fits
> > the bill as much as a WiFi device would. And because "Wireless"!
> >
> > I'm curious what other people might be using, I see that polycom has the
> > SoundStation2W that uses a POTS line. I've also had some folks using a
> Jabra
> > Speak510 paired with some of the bluetooth capable Cisco Phones, but this
> > only works well in small rooms.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd party conference phones

[Nick Thompson]

Revolabs FLX2 - http://www.revolabs.com/flx2

Revolabs is the OEM for the 8831 conference phone as well.


On Apr 9, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Ed Leatherman 
mailto:ealeather...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello

I've had a few requests for "Wireless" conference phones lately for some medium 
sized rooms. In these cases the executive wants to get any cables etc off the 
table, so a wired base station w/ cordless module for the table fits the bill 
as much as a WiFi device would. And because "Wireless"!

I'm curious what other people might be using, I see that polycom has the 
SoundStation2W that uses a POTS line. I've also had some folks using a Jabra 
Speak510 paired with some of the bluetooth capable Cisco Phones, but this only 
works well in small rooms.

Thanks!



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Re: [cisco-voip] 3rd party conference phones

[Charles Goldsmith]

Cisco 8831 has wireless mics, but the speaker/base is wired.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Ed Leatherman  wrote:
> Hello
>
> I've had a few requests for "Wireless" conference phones lately for some
> medium sized rooms. In these cases the executive wants to get any cables etc
> off the table, so a wired base station w/ cordless module for the table fits
> the bill as much as a WiFi device would. And because "Wireless"!
>
> I'm curious what other people might be using, I see that polycom has the
> SoundStation2W that uses a POTS line. I've also had some folks using a Jabra
> Speak510 paired with some of the bluetooth capable Cisco Phones, but this
> only works well in small rooms.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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