Re: [Clamav-users] Is CME officially supported/supporting ClamAV?

2006-02-01 Thread Diego d'Ambra

Jason Haar wrote:

Hi there

I've been watching CME (Common Malware Enumerator) starting to take off
over the past few weeks, and I've noticed CME entries and their
corresponding names used by antivirus vendors.

...and ClamAV ain't in there from what I've seen...



Correct.


Is there no interest in supporting this, or am I just blind? (the latter
is quite possible ;-)



I don't know if ClamAV meets "membership" requirements, since AFAIK 
nobody from ClamAV has been contacted or tried to contact CME (yet).


Best regards,
Diego d'Ambra
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RE: [Clamav-users] Is CME officially supported/supporting ClamAV?

2006-02-01 Thread Randal, Phil
Jason Haar wrote:

> I've been watching CME (Common Malware Enumerator) starting 
> to take off over the past few weeks, and I've noticed CME 
> entries and their corresponding names used by antivirus vendors.
> 
> ...and ClamAV ain't in there from what I've seen...
> 
> Is there no interest in supporting this, or am I just blind? 
> (the latter is quite possible ;-)
> 
> See http://cme.mitre.org/

>From the CME FAQ:

"A8. How can my organization and I participate?

An integral component of the CME initiative is broad community
participation.
We strongly encourage users of anti-virus products to ask their
preferred
vendors to adopt CME identifiers. For anti-virus product vendors,
supporting
and participating in the CME initiative is a bold first step in
announcing
to your users that you want to help alleviate their confusion and
further
protect their systems and networks. Adopting the use of CME identifiers
is
a significant first step in establishing a consistent approach by
anti-virus
entities that will benefit users and the entire information security
community.

Contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss how you and your organization can
help
this growing anti-virus and information security initiative."

Looks like they expect the ClamAV team to contact them, not the other
way round.

Cheers,

Phil


Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK
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Re: [Clamav-users] Unofficial Phishing Signatures

2006-02-01 Thread Dennis Davis
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Steve Basford wrote:

> From: Steve Basford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:49:03 +
> Subject: [Clamav-users] Unofficial Phishing Signatures
> 
> There are already a number of great phishing signatures in ClamAV
> but the Official ClamAV signature makers are obviously very busy
> taking care of the higher priority Virus/Trojan signatures.
>
> As, I've seen a number of new phishing attempts get past the
> Official ClamAV signatures, I thought I'd try to produce my own
> signatures, to see if some of these newer phishing attempts could
> be stopped.

...

Very useful.  I started using these signatures on this University's
mail servers on Monday.  Appended below are the stats on the
incoming crap they stopped yesterday (Tuesday).

Virus   Count
-   -
Html.Phishing.Bank.Sanesecurity.06012200  169
Html.Phishing.Pay.Sanesecurity.0508290038
Html.Phishing.Bank.Sanesecurity.06012600   19
Html.Phishing.Bank.Sanesecurity.06013001.rock  19
Html.Phishing.Bank.Sanesecurity.06012000   15
Html.Phishing.Auction.Gen004.Sanesecurity.06012903 12
Html.Phishing.Bank.Sanesecurity.06012500   11
Html.Phishing.Auction.Gen002.Sanesecurity.06012901  3
Html.Phishing.Pay.Gen001.Sanesecurity.06012700  3
Html.Phishing.Pay.Sanesecurity.06010901 3
Html.Phishing.Bank.Sanesecurity.051019002
Html.Phishing.Pay.Gen002.Sanesecurity.06012700  2
Html.Phishing.Pay.Gen003.Sanesecurity.06012700  2
Html.Phishing.Auction.Gen005.Sanesecurity.06012904  1
Html.Phishing.Azon.Sanesecurity.060110001
Html.Phishing.Bank.Sanesecurity.051181031
Html.Phishing.Bank.Sanesecurity.051208001
Html.Phishing.Bank.Sanesecurity.060110021
Html.Phishing.Bank.Sanesecurity.060126011
Html.Phishing.Pay.Sanesecurity.05100500 1
Html.Phishing.Pay.Sanesecurity.05120802 1
Html.Phishing.Pay.Sanesecurity.06011103 1
Html.Phishing.Pay.Sanesecurity.06012201 1
   --
Total 308

The total incoming virus count for yesterday was 512[1].  So these
signatures account for some 60% of what was detected.

[1] I'm blocking on several RBLs and using other methods for
reducing incoming rubbish.  These may well be preventing a lot
of viruses even reaching the scanning stage.
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Re: [Clamav-users] Unofficial Phishing Signatures

2006-02-01 Thread Oliver Stöneberg
> I feel that it's going to be quite difficult for me to go though 500-odd 
> ClamAV phishing signatures and
> compare them, with an editor to my 100-ish signatures and find out what 
> bits are duplicated.  I really
> need some samples.
>  
> If possible, to save a whole load of time... could you:
> 
> a) give me the sample phishing emails that are duplicated
> b) give me the sample phishing emails that are missed
> 
> Email me, to chat off-list: steveb_clamav -AT- sanesecurity -DOT- com
> 
> Thanks again for the feedback...

I will give you access to the mails you requested, but here a few 
statistics first for everybody outthere.

I used ClamAV 0.88-1 with main.cvd 35 and daily.cvd 1263. The 
Unoffical Phsihing sigantues are the 162 ones from 31st January.

Total Phishing mail count - 522
Deteted by ClamAV only - 490 (of 522)
Undetected - 32 (of 522)
>From the undetected, detected by unofficial signatues -  13 (of 32)
Total undetected - 19 (of 522)

Detected by ClamAV and also by unofficial signatures - 121 (of 490)
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Re: [Clamav-users] Is CME officially supported/supporting ClamAV?

2006-02-01 Thread Krištof Petr


I've been watching CME (Common Malware Enumerator) starting 
to take off over the past few weeks, and I've noticed CME 
entries and their corresponding names used by antivirus vendors.


...and ClamAV ain't in there from what I've seen...

Is there no interest in supporting this, or am I just blind? 
(the latter is quite possible ;-)


See http://cme.mitre.org/
   



Mitre? Are not these boys same as Mitre "security experts" from Clifford 
Stoll's

book CUCKOO'S EGG?

Petr


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Re: [Clamav-users] Is CME officially supported/supporting ClamAV?

2006-02-01 Thread John Jolet


On Feb 1, 2006, at 4:32 AM, Randal, Phil wrote:


Jason Haar wrote:


I've been watching CME (Common Malware Enumerator) starting
to take off over the past few weeks, and I've noticed CME
entries and their corresponding names used by antivirus vendors.

...and ClamAV ain't in there from what I've seen...

Is there no interest in supporting this, or am I just blind?
(the latter is quite possible ;-)

See http://cme.mitre.org/



From the CME FAQ:


"A8. How can my organization and I participate?

An integral component of the CME initiative is broad community
participation.
We strongly encourage users of anti-virus products to ask their
preferred
vendors to adopt CME identifiers. For anti-virus product vendors,
supporting
and participating in the CME initiative is a bold first step in
announcing
to your users that you want to help alleviate their confusion and
further
protect their systems and networks. Adopting the use of CME  
identifiers

is
a significant first step in establishing a consistent approach by
anti-virus
entities that will benefit users and the entire information security
community.



I fail to see how everyone using the same names protects my users any  
more than they already are by my using the best antivirus server-side  
solution out there.  Who cares what you call the virus, when norton  
only releases new signatures on wednesdays.


Contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss how you and your  
organization can

help
this growing anti-virus and information security initiative."

Looks like they expect the ClamAV team to contact them, not the other
way round.

Cheers,

Phil


Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK
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Re: [Clamav-users] Is CME officially supported/supporting ClamAV?

2006-02-01 Thread Odhiambo Washington
* On 01/02/06 07:52 -0600, John Jolet wrote:
> 
> On Feb 1, 2006, at 4:32 AM, Randal, Phil wrote:
> 
> >Jason Haar wrote:
> >
> >>I've been watching CME (Common Malware Enumerator) starting
> >>to take off over the past few weeks, and I've noticed CME
> >>entries and their corresponding names used by antivirus vendors.
> >>
> >>...and ClamAV ain't in there from what I've seen...
> >>
> >>Is there no interest in supporting this, or am I just blind?
> >>(the latter is quite possible ;-)
> >>
> >>See http://cme.mitre.org/
> >
> >>From the CME FAQ:
> >
> >"A8. How can my organization and I participate?
> >
> >An integral component of the CME initiative is broad community
> >participation.
> >We strongly encourage users of anti-virus products to ask their
> >preferred
> >vendors to adopt CME identifiers. For anti-virus product vendors,
> >supporting
> >and participating in the CME initiative is a bold first step in
> >announcing
> >to your users that you want to help alleviate their confusion and
> >further
> >protect their systems and networks. Adopting the use of CME  
> >identifiers
> >is
> >a significant first step in establishing a consistent approach by
> >anti-virus
> >entities that will benefit users and the entire information security
> >community.
> >
> 
> I fail to see how everyone using the same names protects my users any  
> more than they already are by my using the best antivirus server-side  
> solution out there.  Who cares what you call the virus, when norton  
> only releases new signatures on wednesdays.


I don't care as well!
Afterall, I can smell a rat on this CME issue, only the smell is still
quite not identifiable!
Some people want to control the Virus business ;)



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Re: [Clamav-users] Is CME officially supported/supporting ClamAV?

2006-02-01 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 17:45 +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> * On 01/02/06 07:52 -0600, John Jolet wrote:

> > I fail to see how everyone using the same names protects my users any  
> > more than they already are by my using the best antivirus server-side  
> > solution out there.  Who cares what you call the virus, when norton  
> > only releases new signatures on wednesdays.
> 
> 
> I don't care as well!
> Afterall, I can smell a rat on this CME issue, only the smell is still
> quite not identifiable!
> Some people want to control the Virus business ;)

The only reason that I care is that when there is hew and cry over a
massively destructive virus, I can point at my virus statistics and say
"oh, our AV calls CME-24 'worm.vb9' - we've been blocking it for weeks."
Then I don't have to worry about what name another group might give it,
and the PHB's will leave me alone for a little while longer.
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Re: [Clamav-users] Is CME officially supported/supporting ClamAV?

2006-02-01 Thread John Jolet


On Feb 1, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Daniel J McDonald wrote:


On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 17:45 +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:

* On 01/02/06 07:52 -0600, John Jolet wrote:


I fail to see how everyone using the same names protects my users  
any
more than they already are by my using the best antivirus server- 
side

solution out there.  Who cares what you call the virus, when norton
only releases new signatures on wednesdays.



I don't care as well!
Afterall, I can smell a rat on this CME issue, only the smell is  
still

quite not identifiable!
Some people want to control the Virus business ;)


The only reason that I care is that when there is hew and cry over a
massively destructive virus, I can point at my virus statistics and  
say
"oh, our AV calls CME-24 'worm.vb9' - we've been blocking it for  
weeks."
Then I don't have to worry about what name another group might give  
it,

and the PHB's will leave me alone for a little while longer.
has anyone ever noticed how much EXTRA work we sysadmins do for that  
reason alone?  There's a lot of cycles spent, collectively, to prove  
to management what we already know.

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[Clamav-users] My first question

2006-02-01 Thread Daniel Cortes
Hi everybody I installed clam for checking mails. The problem is update 
database, I have to specify to my admin where  freshclam have to connect 
to do available connection.
My question is: If I say to the admin that only opens connection to 
database.clamv.net , will clam works fine?

If this option isn't correct, how can I do to update manually the database?

thks for your replies.
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[Clamav-users] giant messages, giant clamd?

2006-02-01 Thread clamav
Some of my business customers occasionally exchange very large 
messages, for example today, a message about 83MB in size. When such 
a message hits my clamd/spamassassin proxy server, clamd's size 
'explodes', and it start blocking the flow of other messages. for 
example, in top, the resident size may be as high as 190MB. when this 
occurs, i have to kill and restart clamd to restore normal 
functionality (i'm running 0.88 in freebsd). of course, since the 
huge message didn't go through, it sits on my MX, waiting to be 
requeued, and the process starts all over again, until i bypass the 
clam/spam proxy and just dump the message unscanned onto my popserver.


i'm unclear what exactly i'm doing wrong. here's my current clamd.conf:

Foreground
LogFile /var/log/clamd.log
LogFileMaxSize 25M
LogTime
LogSyslog
LogVerbose
LogFacility LOG_LOCAL6
PidFile /var/run/clamd/clamd.pid
LocalSocket /tmp/clamd
FixStaleSocket
MaxConnectionQueueLength 500
StreamMaxLength 100K
MaxThreads 500
ReadTimeout 1200
IdleTimeout 240
MaxDirectoryRecursion 25
SelfCheck 3600
ExitOnOOM
User qscand
ScanPE
ArchiveMaxCompressionRatio 0
ArchiveMaxFileSize 100K
ArchiveMaxRecursion 45
ArchiveMaxFiles 800

i run in foreground as i have it running supervised. i realize my 
maxconnectionqueuelength and maxthreads are absurdely high - those 
were just my latest stabs at trying to 'help' the message through. 
normally they are 1/10th that size. clamd is spawned via 
qmail-scanner-queue. i'd have thought that the archivemaxfilesize 
would cause the giant message to be bypassed by clamav; i realize 
that may be an utterly clueless conjecture.


thanks in advance for any clues.


Paul Theodoropoulos
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Re: [Clamav-users] giant messages, giant clamd?

2006-02-01 Thread Stephen Gran
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 02:46:13PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Some of my business customers occasionally exchange very large 
> messages, for example today, a message about 83MB in size. When such 
> a message hits my clamd/spamassassin proxy server, clamd's size 
> 'explodes', and it start blocking the flow of other messages. for 
> example, in top, the resident size may be as high as 190MB. when this 
> occurs, i have to kill and restart clamd to restore normal 
> functionality (i'm running 0.88 in freebsd). of course, since the 
> huge message didn't go through, it sits on my MX, waiting to be 
> requeued, and the process starts all over again, until i bypass the 
> clam/spam proxy and just dump the message unscanned onto my popserver.

The usual suggestion in this case is roughly that - have whatever is
feeding the message to clamav not do so for messages over a certain
size.
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Re: [Clamav-users] giant messages, giant clamd?

2006-02-01 Thread clamav

At 02:56 PM 2/1/2006, Stephen Gran wrote:


The usual suggestion in this case is roughly that - have whatever is
feeding the message to clamav not do so for messages over a certain
size.


i guess the problem is there seems to be no automated way of doing 
that. it's a by-hand task, which is inconvenient, to say the least, a 
major problem at most.



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Re: [Clamav-users] giant messages, giant clamd?

2006-02-01 Thread Stephen Gran
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 03:11:58PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> At 02:56 PM 2/1/2006, Stephen Gran wrote:
> 
> >The usual suggestion in this case is roughly that - have whatever is
> >feeding the message to clamav not do so for messages over a certain
> >size.
> 
> i guess the problem is there seems to be no automated way of doing 
> that. it's a by-hand task, which is inconvenient, to say the least, a 
> major problem at most.

If you're receiving large files by email, most of the 'glue' methods
that exist for calling clamav have size restriction parameters.
Certainly exiscan, mailscanner and amavis seem to.  There are probably
more out there, but those are the ones that come up regularly here.
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[Clamav-users] postfix with clamav

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Lee

Hello,

To get postfix work clamav on fedora 4,

I installed  the following packages,

clamav-lib-0.88-1.fc4
clamav-update-0.88-1.fc4
clamav-data-0.88-1.fc4
clamav-0.88-1.fc4
clamav-server-0.88-1.fc4

and

clamsmtp-1.6-1.fc4.mf

However, I have no clue if I need all of those packages and
how to configure clamav to work with postfix?

any suggestions?

Tom


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Re: [Clamav-users] Is CME officially supported/supporting ClamAV?

2006-02-01 Thread Jeff Donsbach
On 2/1/06, Krištof Petr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mitre? Are not these boys same as Mitre "security experts" from Clifford
> Stoll's
> book CUCKOO'S EGG?
>

Mitre is a major US DoD contractor.
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Re: [Clamav-users] postfix with clamav

2006-02-01 Thread John Jolet


On Feb 1, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Tom Lee wrote:


Hello,

To get postfix work clamav on fedora 4,

I installed  the following packages,

clamav-lib-0.88-1.fc4
clamav-update-0.88-1.fc4
clamav-data-0.88-1.fc4
clamav-0.88-1.fc4
clamav-server-0.88-1.fc4

and

clamsmtp-1.6-1.fc4.mf

However, I have no clue if I need all of those packages and
how to configure clamav to work with postfix?


i'm not sure about those packages...too lazy to check my fc4 box :)
however, i'm using amavis to call clam.  you put amavis in as a  
transport, and uncomment the clam parts of amavis.  amavis also calls  
spamassassin.



any suggestions?

Tom


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