Re: [clamav-users] No more updates since march 1st

2014-03-03 Thread Mischa Coenen
Normally I see multiple updates per day, and I agree in the weekend normally 1 
or 2 per day. But I understand that there is no policy on how often an update 
is released, it is more of a random thing? 
 
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 Subject: Re: [clamav-users] No more updates since march 1st
 
 
 On Mar 2, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Mischa Coenen mc1...@live.nl wrote:
 
  I have noticed that the last update of the ClamAV database was at 01 Mar 
  2014 16-54 -0500, after that I didn't see any new updates. Are there issues 
  with releasing new updates?
 
 Weekends are always slow, so I wouldn't get too excited unless you still 
 haven't seen something by mid-day tomorrow.
 
 
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Re: [clamav-users] No more updates since march 1st

2014-03-03 Thread Al Varnell
Yes, that's been my experience over the years.  Once a signature writer has
finished with a batch they put them through QA testing and then send them
out.  So it depends mostly on the work schedule of the writers, which used
to be much more random when they were all volunteers.

My impression of the last longer break was that it had to do with the
holidays, but you are correct that it didn't start flowing until somebody
asked and we didn't get an explanation.

-Al-

On 3/3/14 1:26 AM, Mischa Coenen  wrote:

 Normally I see multiple updates per day, and I agree in the weekend normally 1
 or 2 per day. But I understand that there is no policy on how often an update
 is released, it is more of a random thing?
  
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 Subject: Re: [clamav-users] No more updates since march 1st
 
 
 On Mar 2, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Mischa Coenen mc1...@live.nl wrote:
 
 I have noticed that the last update of the ClamAV database was at 01 Mar
 2014 16-54 -0500, after that I didn't see any new updates. Are there issues
 with releasing new updates?
 
 Weekends are always slow, so I wouldn't get too excited unless you still
 haven't seen something by mid-day tomorrow.


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Re: [clamav-users] Low detection rate

2014-03-03 Thread Dennis Peterson

On 3/3/14, 4:28 AM, Steve Hill wrote:


I'm using clamd together with exim under Scientific Linux 6.3 and I'm having
problems with Clam not detecting many viruses - in fact, looking back through
the logs it basically only seems to be finding a few phishing emails.



Did you just send a link to a known infected file to this list?

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Re: [clamav-users] Low detection rate

2014-03-03 Thread Steve Hill

On 03.03.14 12:38, Dennis Peterson wrote:


Did you just send a link to a known infected file to this list?


Yes, I sent a link to something I felt people answering my question 
would need to be able to see, with some text next to it *specifically 
saying it was infected*.  I sent a link rather than just attaching the 
file to the email so that people would actually read the text before 
opening it.


I'm unclear on how else I should reference example data?  (Are people on 
a mailing list for virus scanning software in the habit of clicking 
random links in messages without reading the message text directly next 
to the link?!)


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Re: [clamav-users] Low detection rate

2014-03-03 Thread Steve Basford

 On 03.03.14 12:38, Dennis Peterson wrote:

 Did you just send a link to a known infected file to this list?

 Yes, I sent a link to something I felt people answering my question
 would need to be able to see, with some text next to it *specifically
 saying it was infected*.

I think a h t t p non-clickable link might have been wise though,
just in case someone hasn't had their coffee yet and clicks it...yes,
I know... but it does happen ;)

Cheers,

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Re: [clamav-users] Low detection rate

2014-03-03 Thread Steve Hill

On 03.03.14 13:49, Shawn Webb wrote:


You can submit files you suspect are legitimate malware here:
http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/sendvirus/


As mentioned, I've already done that, but my concern is trying to figure 
out why Clam only seems to be blocking phishing emails rather than 
actual malware - have I got something wrong in my configuration, or is 
Clam's detection engine and signature database *really* unable to detect 
all this malware?



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Re: [clamav-users] Low detection rate

2014-03-03 Thread Steve Hill

On 03.03.14 13:49, Steve Basford wrote:


I think a h t t p non-clickable link might have been wise though,
just in case someone hasn't had their coffee yet and clicks it...yes,
I know... but it does happen ;)


My apologies - I will keep this in mind in future.

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Re: [clamav-users] Low detection rate

2014-03-03 Thread TR Shaw
Many use hxxp for http or [.] or  dot  for the period in the domain name.

Tom

On Mar 3, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Steve Hill wrote:

 On 03.03.14 13:49, Steve Basford wrote:
 
 I think a h t t p non-clickable link might have been wise though,
 just in case someone hasn't had their coffee yet and clicks it...yes,
 I know... but it does happen ;)
 
 My apologies - I will keep this in mind in future.
 
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   Phone:+44-844-9791439 / sip:sa...@opendium.com
 
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Re: [clamav-users] Low detection rate

2014-03-03 Thread Larry Stone

On Mar 3, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Steve Basford steveb_cla...@sanesecurity.com 
wrote:

 
 On 03.03.14 12:38, Dennis Peterson wrote:
 
 Did you just send a link to a known infected file to this list?
 
 Yes, I sent a link to something I felt people answering my question
 would need to be able to see, with some text next to it *specifically
 saying it was infected*.
 
 I think a h t t p non-clickable link might have been wise though,
 just in case someone hasn't had their coffee yet and clicks it...yes,
 I know... but it does happen ;)

No matter what you do, some MUA’s take anything that looks like it might be a 
link and turns it into a link. :-( You need to turn @ into at and . into dot 
and other obfuscations to be fairly sure some MUA won’t make it clickable.

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Re: [clamav-users] Low detection rate

2014-03-03 Thread TR Shaw
btw that one should have been detected by winnow (distributed in Steve's rsync 
feed)

On Mar 3, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Larry Stone wrote:

 
 On Mar 3, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Steve Basford steveb_cla...@sanesecurity.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 On 03.03.14 12:38, Dennis Peterson wrote:
 
 Did you just send a link to a known infected file to this list?
 
 Yes, I sent a link to something I felt people answering my question
 would need to be able to see, with some text next to it *specifically
 saying it was infected*.
 
 I think a h t t p non-clickable link might have been wise though,
 just in case someone hasn't had their coffee yet and clicks it...yes,
 I know... but it does happen ;)
 
 No matter what you do, some MUA’s take anything that looks like it might be a 
 link and turns it into a link. :-( You need to turn @ into at and . into dot 
 and other obfuscations to be fairly sure some MUA won’t make it clickable.
 
 -- 
 Larry Stone
 lston...@stonejongleux.com
 http://www.stonejongleux.com/
 
 
 
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[clamav-users] as unsubscribe from list ?

2014-03-03 Thread Erwin Castillo
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Re: [clamav-users] as unsubscribe from list ?

2014-03-03 Thread Joel Esler (jesler)
http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users

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Re: [clamav-users] Keeping the ClamAV process open?

2014-03-03 Thread Tom Judge
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Scott Snow s_sn...@u.pacific.edu wrote:

 I'm working on a MapReduce project using Amazon's EC2. The only bottleneck
 I have is that it takes ~35-40 seconds to scan each file, which seems very
 high. I'm using a c program as a wrapper for ClamAV, which takes a single
 file and the mode. Does anyone know approximately how long it takes to
 initialize ClamAV and load the virus db? Would it be possible to just keep
 the ClamAV process loaded/running? I've been searching quite a bit, but
 haven't found anything so far. If anyone has any other suggestions for
 optimization, that would be appreciated as well. I'm not very familiar with
 ClamAV.


This all depends on how many signatures you have loaded, it can take
anywhere from 30 seconds to a minute to load the full signature set on a
reasonably spec'd machine.  As Dennis mentioned you should defiantly use
clamd for this work to significantly reduce your overhead.


Tom




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Re: [clamav-users] No more updates since march 1st

2014-03-03 Thread Alain Zidouemba
We are aware of and investigating the issue. We'll let you know know when
it's fixed.

Thanks,

- Alain


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Mischa Coenen mc1...@live.nl wrote:

 I have noticed that the last update of the ClamAV database was at 01 Mar
 2014 16-54 -0500, after that I didn't see any new updates. Are there issues
 with releasing new updates?



 A couple of months ago I have seen the same issue that no new updates were
 released, and after a post on the maillinglist it resumed again. Updating
 the database seems to me a very important for a virus scanner, but isn't it
 internally checked for issues?



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Re: [clamav-users] Low detection rate

2014-03-03 Thread Brian Morrison
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 14:00:16 +
Steve Hill wrote:

 On 03.03.14 13:49, Shawn Webb wrote:
 
  You can submit files you suspect are legitimate malware here:
  http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/sendvirus/
 
 As mentioned, I've already done that, but my concern is trying to
 figure out why Clam only seems to be blocking phishing emails rather
 than actual malware - have I got something wrong in my configuration,
 or is Clam's detection engine and signature database *really* unable
 to detect all this malware?
 
 

Steve is your Exim installation set up to reject mail on spamminess,
using SpamAssassin or similar?

I find that SA detects a lot of mail using SA rules that probably
contain attachments or inline images that are virus laden, but it's
cheaper on system resources to reject at SMTP time than running ClamAV
on every mail received.

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Re: [clamav-users] Low detection rate

2014-03-03 Thread Dennis Peterson

On 3/3/14, 8:50 AM, Brian Morrison wrote:



Steve is your Exim installation set up to reject mail on spamminess,
using SpamAssassin or similar?

I find that SA detects a lot of mail using SA rules that probably
contain attachments or inline images that are virus laden, but it's
cheaper on system resources to reject at SMTP time than running ClamAV
on every mail received.



Given that he received an attachment that is suspicious it indicates it got past 
all his smtp defenses. Next is to find out if that attachment is actually 
malware or other evil thing and if so create and distribute a signature.


In my environments the unofficial signatures from Sane Security stop 10 times 
the volume of official signatures. This has been true for several years and 
several very large businesses.


However - there's never been a problem that has come in via email - they've 
always come in on laptops and VPN-connected remote systems.


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Re: [clamav-users] Low detection rate

2014-03-03 Thread G.W. Haywood

Hi there,

On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Dennis Peterson wrote:

In my environments the unofficial signatures from Sane Security stop 10 times 
the volume of official signatures. This has been true for several years and 
several very large businesses.


Ditto.  In fact I only really use ClamAV because of the third party stuff,
since I don't use Microsoft products.

However - there's never been a problem that has come in via email - they've 
always come in on laptops and VPN-connected remote systems.


And deliberate, if stupid, browser downloads, and the odd USB stick. :(

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