Re: [clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : Virii

2014-06-10 Thread ellanios82

On 06/11/2014 09:31 AM, Al Varnell wrote:

According to the forum link you gave us you should "set your scanner
to ignore sst files, which are not executable and cannot catch a
virus.” -Al-

_

 - in case of interest, Carlos Robinson, on the opensuse list, kindly 
explained :


It is an indirect threat to Windows users only, who*need*  to run an
antivirus full-time, who may be*confused*  by the messages about having
a virus in the bitcoin folders, and may be tempted to delete those files
or allow the antivirus to do so, mistakenly, or to remove or disable the
antivirus globally.

As the link says, disable testing of that particular type of file, or
that type of file in that particular directory.



Those files do not even contain any virus. They just contain certain
strings, like text, that happen to be the particular sequence of bytes
that antivirus use to detect certain viruses.

Meaning: suppose the virus "I'M VERY BAD" contains somewhere in hte code
the text "ImVeRyBaD". An antivirus that scans a file and sees the string
"ImVeRyBaD" says “WARNING! That file contains the virus "I'M VERY BAD".
You should triple destroy that file immediately! Life danger!” And the
file in question could be just a plain text file or an email in where
somebody tells another guy that he saw the alias "ImVeRyBaD" painted in
a wall in the street.


So, somebody is playing jokes, and intentionally inserting those known
trigger strings into those bitcoin files, to make them trigger the
antivirus warning, on purpose, to stir the pot or have a laugh at you,
or whatever. The files themselves are perfectly safe, they contain no virus.


Disclaimer: any occurrence of "ImVeRyBaD" in real life is coincidental
and non intentional. The author makes no claim to the existence of such
a malware or alias, nor is there any intentional correlation to any such
person living or dead, etc etc etc.

  :-


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Re: [clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : Virii

2014-06-10 Thread ellanios82

On 06/11/2014 09:31 AM, Al Varnell wrote:
According to the forum link you gave us you should "set your scanner 
to ignore sst files, which are not executable and cannot catch a 
virus.” -Al- 

_

 - in case of interest, Carlos Robinson, on the opensuse list, kindly 
explained :


It is an indirect threat to Windows users only, who*need*  to run an
antivirus full-time, who may be*confused*  by the messages about having
a virus in the bitcoin folders, and may be tempted to delete those files
or allow the antivirus to do so, mistakenly, or to remove or disable the
antivirus globally.

As the link says, disable testing of that particular type of file, or
that type of file in that particular directory.



Those files do not even contain any virus. They just contain certain
strings, like text, that happen to be the particular sequence of bytes
that antivirus use to detect certain viruses.

Meaning: suppose the virus "I'M VERY BAD" contains somewhere in hte code
the text "ImVeRyBaD". An antivirus that scans a file and sees the string
"ImVeRyBaD" says “WARNING! That file contains the virus "I'M VERY BAD".
You should triple destroy that file immediately! Life danger!” And the
file in question could be just a plain text file or an email in where
somebody tells another guy that he saw the alias "ImVeRyBaD" painted in
a wall in the street.


So, somebody is playing jokes, and intentionally inserting those known
trigger strings into those bitcoin files, to make them trigger the
antivirus warning, on purpose, to stir the pot or have a laugh at you,
or whatever. The files themselves are perfectly safe, they contain no virus.


Disclaimer: any occurrence of "ImVeRyBaD" in real life is coincidental
and non intentional. The author makes no claim to the existence of such
a malware or alias, nor is there any intentional correlation to any such
person living or dead, etc etc etc.

  :-


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Re: [clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : Virii

2014-06-10 Thread Al Varnell
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:24 PM, ellanios82 wrote:
> 
> On 06/11/2014 01:52 AM, Joel Esler (jesler) wrote:
>> What is your question here?
> __
> 
> - it seems that about 6 to 8 virus signatures have been injected into 
> bitcoin's chainstate, and that they are now probably permanently built into 
> the chainstate :
> 
> - is this a threat, or,  can these alerts be safely ignored ?
> 
> ..
> 
> thank you

Ellan,

According to the forum link you gave us you should "set your scanner to ignore 
sst files, which are not executable and cannot catch a virus.”


-Al-
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Re: [clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : Virii

2014-06-10 Thread ellanios82

On 06/11/2014 01:52 AM, Joel Esler (jesler) wrote:

What is your question here?

__

- it seems that about 6 to 8 virus signatures have been injected into 
bitcoin's chainstate, and that they are now probably permanently built 
into the chainstate :


 - is this a threat, or,  can these alerts be safely ignored ?

..

thank you
regards
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Re: [clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : Virii [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

2014-06-10 Thread Joel Esler (jesler)
He’s been unsubscribed.


On Jun 10, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Alan Langley  wrote:

> UNOFFICIAL
> Hi Joel,
> 
> I've tried a couple of times to unsubscribe from the clamav-users list as it 
> is no longer required - I'm still receiving the emails - I thought you might 
> have the power to remove my address from the list.
> 
> Cheers
> Alan Langley
> 
> Systems Administrator, Storage, Backup and Recovery ICT Infrastructure 
> Support and Systems Executive and Information Services
> 
> Room 32 Mitchell
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net 
> [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of Joel Esler 
> (jesler)
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2014 8:52 AM
> To: ClamAV users ML
> Subject: Re: [clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : Virii
> 
> Thanks Ellan.
> 
> What is your question here?
> 
> --
> Joel Esler
> Open Source Manager
> Threat Intelligence Team Lead
> Vulnerability Research Team
> 
> On Jun 10, 2014, at 10:49 AM, ellanios82 
> mailto:ellanio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello List
> 
> 
> i notice link :
> 
> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=574691.0
> 
> 
> 
> notice remarks :
> "Just tell your antivirus program to ignore the folder 
> /Users/username/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin"
> 
> "This is a huge mistake! "
> 
> "Just imagine: a unknown virus download some viruses to this directory. The 
> folder is ignore by the virus scanner, so _valid_ viruses are not recognized, 
> they can do whatever they want to do."
> 
> "And you do not realize that your wallet is stolen."
> 
> "So the devs sould somehow handle this!"
> 
> Elbandi
> 
> "The 'devs' can't handle this as the signatures are part of the blockchain. 
> And they're there to stay."
> ..
> 
> regards
> Ellan
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Re: [clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : Virii [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

2014-06-10 Thread Charles Swiger
On Jun 10, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Alan Langley  wrote:
> UNOFFICIAL
> Hi Joel,
> 
> I've tried a couple of times to unsubscribe from the clamav-users list as it 
> is no longer required - I'm still receiving the emails - I thought you might 
> have the power to remove my address from the list.
[ ... ]

You should have the power to unsubscribe yourself here:

  http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users

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Re: [clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : Virii [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

2014-06-10 Thread Alan Langley
UNOFFICIAL
Hi Joel,

I've tried a couple of times to unsubscribe from the clamav-users list as it is 
no longer required - I'm still receiving the emails - I thought you might have 
the power to remove my address from the list.

Cheers
Alan Langley

Systems Administrator, Storage, Backup and Recovery ICT Infrastructure Support 
and Systems Executive and Information Services

Room 32 Mitchell

-Original Message-
From: clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net 
[mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of Joel Esler (jesler)
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2014 8:52 AM
To: ClamAV users ML
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : Virii

Thanks Ellan.

What is your question here?

--
Joel Esler
Open Source Manager
Threat Intelligence Team Lead
Vulnerability Research Team

On Jun 10, 2014, at 10:49 AM, ellanios82 
mailto:ellanio...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello List


 i notice link :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=574691.0



notice remarks :
"Just tell your antivirus program to ignore the folder 
/Users/username/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin"

"This is a huge mistake! "

"Just imagine: a unknown virus download some viruses to this directory. The 
folder is ignore by the virus scanner, so _valid_ viruses are not recognized, 
they can do whatever they want to do."

"And you do not realize that your wallet is stolen."

"So the devs sould somehow handle this!"

Elbandi

"The 'devs' can't handle this as the signatures are part of the blockchain. And 
they're there to stay."
..

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Re: [clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : Virii

2014-06-10 Thread Joel Esler (jesler)
Thanks Ellan.

What is your question here?

--
Joel Esler
Open Source Manager
Threat Intelligence Team Lead
Vulnerability Research Team

On Jun 10, 2014, at 10:49 AM, ellanios82 
mailto:ellanio...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello List


 i notice link :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=574691.0



notice remarks :
"Just tell your antivirus program to ignore the folder 
/Users/username/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin"

"This is a huge mistake! "

"Just imagine: a unknown virus download some viruses to this directory. The 
folder is ignore by the virus scanner, so _valid_ viruses are not recognized, 
they can do whatever they want to do."

"And you do not realize that your wallet is stolen."

"So the devs sould somehow handle this!"

Elbandi

"The 'devs' can't handle this as the signatures are part of the blockchain. And 
they're there to stay."
..

regards
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[clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : Virii

2014-06-10 Thread ellanios82

 Hello List


  i notice link :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=574691.0



notice remarks :
 "Just tell your antivirus program to ignore the folder 
/Users/username/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin"


"This is a huge mistake! "

"Just imagine: a unknown virus download some viruses to this directory. 
The folder is ignore by the virus scanner, so _valid_ viruses are not 
recognized, they can do whatever they want to do."


"And you do not realize that your wallet is stolen."

"So the devs sould somehow handle this!"

Elbandi

"The 'devs' can't handle this as the signatures are part of the 
blockchain. And they're there to stay."

..

regards
  Ellan
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Re: [clamav-users] clamav does not recognize virus?!

2014-06-10 Thread Alain Zidouemba
We are looking into it.

Thanks,

- Alain


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM, ungifted  wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:28:58 -0400
>  Alain Zidouemba wrote:
>
> > Thanks for reporting this, ungifted. We'll release a signature shortly.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Why submission form have checkbox "Notify me", but I never got any
> notifications?
> I use clamav since 2004.
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Re: [clamav-users] clamav does not recognize virus?!

2014-06-10 Thread ungifted
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:28:58 -0400
 Alain Zidouemba wrote:

> Thanks for reporting this, ungifted. We'll release a signature shortly.

Thanks.

Why submission form have checkbox "Notify me", but I never got any 
notifications?
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Re: [clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : clamav today detects 6 infected files with names like : 512719.sst

2014-06-10 Thread Alain Zidouemba
Can you provide with the detection names? What are the MD5s or SHA256s of
the files?
Please upload them here: http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/sendvirus/

- Alain


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:59 AM, ellanios82  wrote:

>  Hello List
>
>
>  - today, clamscan detects 6 bitcoin chainstate files as being infected
>
> 
>
>  Dear Alain Zidouemba : may i upload all 6 or do you prefer just two ??
>
> .
>
> thanks
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[clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : clamav today detects 6 infected files with names like : 512719.sst [2]: is BITCOIN a known vector ?

2014-06-10 Thread ellanios82

 Hello List

 - seems this is known as "Gergana.9"  : is BITCOIN a known vector ?

...
 - today, clamscan detects 6 bitcoin chainstate files as being infected




thanks
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[clamav-users] Bitcoin : Chainstate : clamav today detects 6 infected files with names like : 512719.sst

2014-06-10 Thread ellanios82

 Hello List


 - today, clamscan detects 6 bitcoin chainstate files as being infected



 Dear Alain Zidouemba : may i upload all 6 or do you prefer just two ??

.

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Re: [clamav-users] clamav does not recognize virus?!

2014-06-10 Thread Alain Zidouemba
Thanks for reporting this, ungifted. We'll release a signature shortly.

- Alain


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:29 AM, ungifted  wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:41:34 +0300
>  Henri Salo wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 08:22:39AM +0200, Frank Rust wrote:
> > > why does clamav not recognize any virus?
> > > Any advice?
> >
> > http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/sendvirus/
>
> Black hole for me even with checked "Notify me".
>
>
> For example: I have file Shipping details.exe
> I submit it (19.May.2014) to clamav, drweb, symantec.
>
> clamav - silence (as always) and today:
>
> Shipping details.exe: OK
>
> --- SCAN SUMMARY ---
> Known viruses: 5247083
> Engine version: 0.98.1
>
> drweb
> ticket opened notification 19 may 10:44
> ticket closed 19 may 13:35 (Trojan.PWS.Panda.4795)
>
> symatec
> ticket opened notification. And silence (as always), but detected then as
> Trojan.Zbot
>
>
> https://www.virustotal.com/ru/file/87edb192a67ad4ed3aa5f5de79cfcb074f1a375b731bb05cb4a4848fe9fd3fcf/analysis/1402387884/
>
> ps. I will submit it again, now
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Re: [clamav-users] clamav does not recognize virus?!

2014-06-10 Thread ungifted
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 01:36:24 -0700
 Al Varnell wrote:

> 
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 01:29 AM, ungifted wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:41:34 +0300
> > Henri Salo wrote:
> > 
> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 08:22:39AM +0200, Frank Rust wrote:
> >>> why does clamav not recognize any virus?
> >>> Any advice? 
> >> 
> >> http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/sendvirus/
> > 
> > Black hole for me even with checked "Notify me".
> > 
> > 
> > For example: I have file Shipping details.exe
> > I submit it (19.May.2014) to clamav, drweb, symantec.
> > 
> > clamav - silence (as always) and today:
> > 
> > Shipping details.exe: OK
> 
> Post the MD5 of the file you uploaded to make it easier for them to find and 
> give you a status.


$ gpg --print-md md5 /tmp/Shipping\ details.exe 
/tmp/Shipping details.exe: DD F5 E8 E5 C5 68 70 D5  BC 4C 7A D9 1E 49 0F 24
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Re: [clamav-users] clamav does not recognize virus?!

2014-06-10 Thread Al Varnell

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 01:29 AM, ungifted wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:41:34 +0300
> Henri Salo wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 08:22:39AM +0200, Frank Rust wrote:
>>> why does clamav not recognize any virus?
>>> Any advice? 
>> 
>> http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/sendvirus/
> 
> Black hole for me even with checked "Notify me".
> 
> 
> For example: I have file Shipping details.exe
> I submit it (19.May.2014) to clamav, drweb, symantec.
> 
> clamav - silence (as always) and today:
> 
> Shipping details.exe: OK

Post the MD5 of the file you uploaded to make it easier for them to find and 
give you a status.


-Al-
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Mountain View, CA





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Re: [clamav-users] clamav does not recognize virus?!

2014-06-10 Thread ungifted
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:41:34 +0300
 Henri Salo wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 08:22:39AM +0200, Frank Rust wrote:
> > why does clamav not recognize any virus?
> > Any advice? 
> 
> http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/sendvirus/

Black hole for me even with checked "Notify me".


For example: I have file Shipping details.exe
I submit it (19.May.2014) to clamav, drweb, symantec.

clamav - silence (as always) and today:

Shipping details.exe: OK

--- SCAN SUMMARY ---
Known viruses: 5247083
Engine version: 0.98.1

drweb
ticket opened notification 19 may 10:44
ticket closed 19 may 13:35 (Trojan.PWS.Panda.4795)

symatec
ticket opened notification. And silence (as always), but detected then as 
Trojan.Zbot

https://www.virustotal.com/ru/file/87edb192a67ad4ed3aa5f5de79cfcb074f1a375b731bb05cb4a4848fe9fd3fcf/analysis/1402387884/

ps. I will submit it again, now
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