Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Tim Smith
> but call paid prebuildt software always better is not correct, but mostly 
> just marketing

What rubbish... ClamAV always lags behind the commercial vendors in
any comparative you wish to mention.

The majority of well established vendors will also do a better job of
detecting and pushing out definitions as it seems that ClamAV is
reactive, not proactive on the definitions front  

> What other av product can you make your own virus signatures with, not 
> usefull,  hmm

You don't need to when they've got a decent set of analysts who are on
the ball and push out new definitions quickly !

F-Secure, Sophos, Kasperksy and others all had coverage already of this virus.

Seriously, why should I mess around with creating virus signatures,
its a waste of my time.

Evangelising over how wonderful open-source anti-virus is is great
but if you're severely lagging on pushing out virus definitions then
it very quickly removes the attractiveness of the product.   80% of
people using your open-source project won't have the knowledge, time
or inclination to hack together their own virus definitions 


I'm off to sign up with one of the well established software vendors.

On 6 October 2014 14:55, Benny Pedersen  wrote:
> On October 6, 2014 3:37:34 PM Tim Smith  wrote:
>
>> > are you really trying to compare response times from PAID sollutions to
>> > the free/community maintened ones ?
>> Of course not, the paid solutions will always be better.
>
>
> Dream on, my commodore 64 is the best 8bit computer ever not needing
> antivirus at all, restarting it cleans any virus for free, sorry could not
> resists
>
>> But three days to get some definitions pushed out for a zero-day is a
>> bit on the slow side, you must agree !
>
>
> You are free to define opensource as you wish, but call paid prebuildt
> software always better is not correct, but mostly just marketing
>
> What other av product can you make your own virus signatures with, not
> usefull,  hmm
>
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Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Tim Smith
> are you really trying to compare response times from PAID sollutions to the 
> free/community maintened ones 

Of course not, the paid solutions will always be better.

But three days to get some definitions pushed out for a zero-day is a
bit on the slow side, you must agree !
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Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Tim Smith
Gene,

>Perhaps you should consider submitted them in a compressed file format
>that is NOT proprietary to apple and which carries a per seat license fee?


How about ***YOU*** consider the fact that I was merely submitting a
RAR file becasue that was the exact file that was received in my email
!

I received a RAR, thus I submitted a RAR !

Geez ... some people !

;-(

On 3 October 2014 15:39, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> On Friday 03 October 2014 07:19:13 Tim Smith did opine
> And Gene did reply:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Over the last 24-48 hours, I submitted a number of email attachments.
>> RAR files that contained viruses.
>>
>> Running one or two of them through VirusTotal today, I see ClamAV have
>> *STILL* not managed to produce virus definitions for them !
>>
>> All of the commercial vendors I submitted the samples to had analysed
>> and created samples in timeframes ranging from hours to one day.
>>
>> At this rate I'm going to be dumping ClamAV from my systems and
>> subscribing to a service from a commercial vendor .
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing the reasons why !
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>
> Perhaps you should consider submitted them in a compressed file format
> that is NOT proprietary to apple and which carries a per seat license fee?
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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[clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-03 Thread Tim Smith
Hi,

Over the last 24-48 hours, I submitted a number of email attachments.
RAR files that contained viruses.

Running one or two of them through VirusTotal today, I see ClamAV have
*STILL* not managed to produce virus definitions for them !

All of the commercial vendors I submitted the samples to had analysed
and created samples in timeframes ranging from hours to one day.

At this rate I'm going to be dumping ClamAV from my systems and
subscribing to a service from a commercial vendor .

Looking forward to hearing the reasons why !
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