Re: Crypto/Security component in Bugzilla

2006-02-09 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Mark" == Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Mark> In that case it seems we don't need a keyword or meta-bug but just a new
Mark> 'security' component covering java.security.* (Permissions, Policies,
Mark> SecurityManager)?

As I recall the discussion was about security as cross-cutting
concern -- not exactly (or just) java.security but also security
issues anywhere in the library.

Tom



Re: Crypto/Security component in Bugzilla

2006-02-02 Thread Mark Wielaard
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 20:01 -0500, Andrew Pinski wrote:
> On Feb 1, 2006, at 7:52 PM, Tom Tromey wrote:
> > I thought this question was more about "security" in the sense of
> > "bugs we know of in our security code", not "security flaws requiring
> > a quick turnaround".
> 
> Likewise.  After reading Casey's email that Mark responded to.

In that case it seems we don't need a keyword or meta-bug but just a new
'security' component covering java.security.* (Permissions, Policies,
SecurityManager)?

Cheers,

Mark


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Re: Crypto/Security component in Bugzilla

2006-02-01 Thread Casey Marshall

On Feb 1, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Andrew Pinski wrote:


On Feb 1, 2006, at 7:52 PM, Tom Tromey wrote:

I thought this question was more about "security" in the sense of
"bugs we know of in our security code", not "security flaws requiring
a quick turnaround".


Likewise.  After reading Casey's email that Mark responded to.



Yeah, that was what I meant. Because the Java security model  
potentially touches everything, and isn't exactly a "component."




Re: Crypto/Security component in Bugzilla

2006-02-01 Thread Andrew Pinski


On Feb 1, 2006, at 7:52 PM, Tom Tromey wrote:

I thought this question was more about "security" in the sense of
"bugs we know of in our security code", not "security flaws requiring
a quick turnaround".


Likewise.  After reading Casey's email that Mark responded to.



-- Pinski




Re: Crypto/Security component in Bugzilla

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Mark" == Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Mark> Maybe Andrew (one of the gcc bug-masters) can advise us on when to add a
Mark> new keyword and when to use meta-bugs. How do other projects handle
Mark> security issues/bug reports in their issue trackers?

Often serious security issues aren't filed at all, but instead the
maintainers are contacted privately, and the fixes are embargoed until
a certain date.

I thought this question was more about "security" in the sense of
"bugs we know of in our security code", not "security flaws requiring
a quick turnaround".

Tom



Re: Crypto/Security component in Bugzilla

2006-02-01 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Casey,

On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 13:00 -0800, Casey Marshall wrote:
> It's just that crypto/ssl is a large part of  
> Classpath now, so it makes sense that it have it's own component (and  
> bugs!).

You got it! There is a new 'crypto' component for the 'classpath'
product now with you as default owner. But feel free to reassign any
bugs reported against it to others after initial analysis.

> > And maybe a "security" keyword that describes
> > direct security issues?
> >
> > For security right now we have a meta-bug which depends on all the
> > security issues -- PR 13603.  This is a bit weird since this
> > predates classpath using bugzilla, and is filed against gcj.
> >
> > I don't know the pros and cons of meta-bugs versus keywords.  I'm
> > fine with whatever works.

Maybe Andrew (one of the gcc bug-masters) can advise us on when to add a
new keyword and when to use meta-bugs. How do other projects handle
security issues/bug reports in their issue trackers?

Cheers,

Mark


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Re: Crypto/Security component in Bugzilla

2006-02-01 Thread Casey Marshall

On Feb 1, 2006, at 12:25 PM, Tom Tromey wrote:


"Casey" == Casey Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Casey> Any thoughts on adding a "crypto" or "security" component to
Casey> Classpath Bugzilla? And maybe a "security" keyword that  
describes

Casey> direct security issues?

For a new component I think we generally want to have a default owner
for the bugs.  In any case, if you think it is worthwhile, then I'm
for it.



I can be the default owner of those bugs. Or maybe Raif, if he wants  
to. The two of us wrote the bulk of the crypto code.



For security right now we have a meta-bug which depends on all the
security issues -- PR 13603.  This is a bit weird since this predates
classpath using bugzilla, and is filed against gcj.

I don't know the pros and cons of meta-bugs versus keywords.  I'm
fine with whatever works.



That's not a big deal. It's just that crypto/ssl is a large part of  
Classpath now, so it makes sense that it have it's own component (and  
bugs!).




Re: Crypto/Security component in Bugzilla

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Casey" == Casey Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Casey> Any thoughts on adding a "crypto" or "security" component to
Casey> Classpath Bugzilla? And maybe a "security" keyword that describes
Casey> direct security issues?

For a new component I think we generally want to have a default owner
for the bugs.  In any case, if you think it is worthwhile, then I'm
for it.

For security right now we have a meta-bug which depends on all the
security issues -- PR 13603.  This is a bit weird since this predates
classpath using bugzilla, and is filed against gcj.

I don't know the pros and cons of meta-bugs versus keywords.  I'm
fine with whatever works.

Casey> I don't know how to do this, so really I'm batting my eyelashes at
Casey> whoever does know.

Mark has the needed privileges.

Tom



Crypto/Security component in Bugzilla

2006-02-01 Thread Casey Marshall
Any thoughts on adding a "crypto" or "security" component to  
Classpath Bugzilla? And maybe a "security" keyword that describes  
direct security issues?


I don't know how to do this, so really I'm batting my eyelashes at  
whoever does know.