Implementing java.text

2003-10-17 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Michael, hi Guilhem,

while trying to merge in the latest improvements in Classpath, I noticed 
that Michael started reformatting java.text, and fixing some problems on 
his own. Which is a great thing, but leaves me with a small problem:

It makes my back-merging work harder, as kaffe already uses the patches 
submitted by Guilhem to the Classpath bug tracker. See 
http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=classpath for an overview. I'd like 
to suggest reviewing those patches, and then deciding on merging them in 
or whether another implementation of those aspects of java.text is 
necessary.

If there is anything I can personally do to make sure the contributions 
from kaffe developers make their way back into Classpath, I'd appreciate 
hearing about it. I guess we should just talk to each other more often ;)

cheers,
dalibor topic


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Re: Implementing java.text

2003-10-18 Thread Guilhem Lavaux
Dalibor Topic wrote:

> Hi Michael, hi Guilhem,

Hi Dalibor, (always here but a lot busy ;) )

>
> while trying to merge in the latest improvements in Classpath, I 
noticed that Michael started reformatting java.text, and fixing some 
problems on his own. Which is a great thing, but leaves me with a small 
problem:
>
> It makes my back-merging work harder, as kaffe already uses the 
patches submitted by Guilhem to the Classpath bug tracker. See 
http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=classpath for an overview. I'd like 
to suggest reviewing those patches, and then deciding on merging them in 
or whether another implementation of those aspects of java.text is 
necessary.

Yes, it's a problem I fear for some time now. I also noticed that some 
changes have been made to InetAddress and that I need to port these 
changes without compromising the already fixed bugs in kaffe (IPV6 
compatibility). Hopefully, I will have some time to work on 
kaffe/Classpath in two weeks.

>
> If there is anything I can personally do to make sure the 
contributions from kaffe developers make their way back into Classpath, 
I'd appreciate hearing about it. I guess we should just talk to each 
other more often ;)

I would also like to help.

Cheers,
Guilhem.
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Re: Implementing java.text

2003-10-18 Thread Brian Jones
Guilhem Lavaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If there is anything I can personally do to make sure the
> contributions from kaffe developers make their way back into
> Classpath, I'd appreciate hearing about it. I guess we should just
> talk to each other more often ;)

Other than more people with more time to spend on reviewing and
commiting patches, I don't know.  I find it a tad difficult to
evaluate some patches without test cases.

Brian
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Re: Implementing java.text

2003-10-20 Thread Michael Koch
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Am Samstag, 18. Oktober 2003 22:24 schrieb Brian Jones:
> Guilhem Lavaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > If there is anything I can personally do to make sure the
> > contributions from kaffe developers make their way back into
> > Classpath, I'd appreciate hearing about it. I guess we should
> > just talk to each other more often ;)
>
> Other than more people with more time to spend on reviewing and
> commiting patches, I don't know.  I find it a tad difficult to
> evaluate some patches without test cases.

My testcases are in Mauve.


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Re: Implementing java.text

2003-10-22 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Dalibor" == Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Dalibor> It makes my back-merging work harder, as kaffe already uses the
Dalibor> patches submitted by Guilhem to the Classpath bug tracker. See
Dalibor> http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=classpath for an overview. I'd
Dalibor> like to suggest reviewing those patches, and then deciding on merging
Dalibor> them in or whether another implementation of those aspects of
Dalibor> java.text is necessary.

That sounds sensible to me.

Whenever I review patches, it really helps if they follow certain
rules.  It's easiest if each logical change is a separate patch, if
the patches are uni- or context-diff (not a problem in this case, but
sometimes people post plain diffs, which are unreadable), if there is
a ChangeLog entry.  In the best case there's also a Mauve test.  If
any of these things are missing, I tend to put off review, as it means
more work for me... (e.g., sometimes I've rewritten tests into Mauve
format.  This gets old).

(I know this is nothing you don't already know, since we've discussed
it several times on irc, so I'm writing for the non-irc-using
audience... :)

Dalibor> If there is anything I can personally do to make sure the
Dalibor> contributions from kaffe developers make their way back into
Dalibor> Classpath, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

I think the best case scenario is that the kaffe developers end up
with write access to Classpath, just like developers who work on other
VMs.

I do think that at some point we should tighten Classpath commit rules
a bit.  I'm afraid this will be an unpopular move, but it does seem
important.  For instance, we could require an approval for every patch
(but still leave committing up to the author).  Or we could require a
test case for every patch (with the ability to ask for an exception,
since sometimes this isn't possible).

Tom


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