Lets have a DevJam during FOSDEM! (Was: [Devjam] Java Is FREE! (some real information))
[Mark Wielaard] Yes that makes sense. We got confirmation from the Fosdem organizers that for FOSDEM 2007 (24-25th February in Brussels, Belgium) we will have a room for 100 people and Sun.be has asked for an OpenJDK booth that the FOSDEM organization will place not too far away from that room. Good. I'll try to make something happen. Normally our Fosdem meeting is completely volunteer based and people come without any sponsorship. Just because it is such a hassle to make someone responsible for managing and tracking money. But if you would like to help with sponsorship and coordination that would be very nice. I've spoken with Andreas Schuldei (stockholm on IRC) in Debian, and he is interested in helping out. We need a list of interested people with and without sponsoring needs, and someone to pick the ones deserving to get their travel sponsored. We have discussed it on #debian-java a bit, and will continue to do so. URL:http://wiki.debian.org/Java/DevJam is a good starting place. I suggest Mark get to pick the three people to join him in the group to select who to sponsor. Fine with this, Mark? I know there were intentions to hold the next devjam in America somewhere, but suggest we grab the chance to gather at FOSDEM and try later to organize something in Canada or Mexico. I assume the current border check and legal system in USA make it less likely as an alternative. Friendly, -- Petter Reinholdtsen
Re: [Devjam] Java Is FREE! (some real information)
Hi Petter, On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 20:09 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Yes, this is great news. I believe it calls for a free java developer gathering like the one in Oldenburg a long time ago. This time with people from SUN as well as all the developers from the Classpath project cluster. :) Any volunteer to make it happen. I know a gathering is planned for FOSDEM, perhaps it could be extended and some travel sponsoring can be organized for it? Yes that makes sense. We got confirmation from the Fosdem organizers that for FOSDEM 2007 (24-25th February in Brussels, Belgium) we will have a room for 100 people and Sun.be has asked for an OpenJDK booth that the FOSDEM organization will place not too far away from that room. We have some friends at Sun now that would like to join us for Fosdem. Normally we have three themes for our Fosdem meeting (Sat afternoon, Sun morning, Sun afternoon). For this year it is probably a good idea to make those: - GNU Classpath friends - Reflection Future (Party!) - OpenJDK - Welcome to/from the community - GNU/Linux distro packaging for the new libre Java world Normally our Fosdem meeting is completely volunteer based and people come without any sponsorship. Just because it is such a hassle to make someone responsible for managing and tracking money. But if you would like to help with sponsorship and coordination that would be very nice. Cheers, Mark signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Devjam] Java Is FREE! (some real information)
[Mark Wielaard] And please do join some of us on irc.gnu.org in #classpath we might not have answers yet for all the wonderful things the future might bring, but we can at least have a little virtual party! :) Yes, this is great news. I believe it calls for a free java developer gathering like the one in Oldenburg a long time ago. This time with people from SUN as well as all the developers from the Classpath project cluster. :) Any volunteer to make it happen. I know a gathering is planned for FOSDEM, perhaps it could be extended and some travel sponsoring can be organized for it? Friendly, -- Petter Reinholdtsen
Re: Java Is FREE! (some real information)
Hi all, On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 09:28 +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 15:54 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Java to be Freed tomorrow!! Way to go Sun! http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=43046 http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t84244.html Yes. Thank you Sun! Some more links for your reading pleasure: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=199 http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=200 And guess what they mean with following established free software community practices for licensing virtual machines and their associated libraries. Yes! They will use the GPL and the GPL+exception! And there is some real information available now at: http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/ Make sure you read the FAQ which is pretty nice: http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/faq.jsp You will notice some really nice things like: Q: What is the Classpath exception? A: The Classpath exception was developed by the Free Software Foundation's GNU/Classpath Project (see http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/license.html). It allows you to link an application available under any license to a library that is part of software licensed under GPL v2, without that application being subject to the GPL's requirement to be itself offered to the public under the GPL. Q: Why do you need the Classpath exception? A: If an application is distributed with an implementation of Java such as the JDK under GPL v2, that application could be subject to the requirements of the GPL that all code that is shipped as part of a Òwork based on the [GPL] programÓ also be GPL licensed. Accordingly, a GPL license exception is needed that specifically excludes from this licensing requirement any application that links to the GPL implementation. The Classpath exception accomplishes this. Without the Classpath exception, a Java SE implementation licensed under GPL v2 could not practically be distributed with non-GPL licensed Java applications. This could present a serious barrier to adoption, for example by OpenSolaris or GNU/Linux distributions if left unaddressed. Q: Why did you choose this licensing method? A: This is the licensing paradigm in common use within Free software communities such as GNU/Classpath and Kaffe for the components of a Java technology implementation including the virtual machine and class libraries. We consciously chose the same licensing method so that there would be no temptation to second guess Sun's intention to make its Java SE implementation available under a genuinely Free and open license. And please do join some of us on irc.gnu.org in #classpath we might not have answers yet for all the wonderful things the future might bring, but we can at least have a little virtual party! :) Cheers, Mark signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
