Re: GNU Classpath 0.06 created
Hi, On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 19:51, Per Bothner wrote: If you've created a cvs tag, and given it a real version number, I'd call it a release, even if it's not a 1.0 relase. alpha.gnu.org has outlived its usefulness (evidenced by the fact that it is little used) now that alpha code is available in CVS for most projects. Note that alpha.gnu.org is not mirrored the way ftp.gnu.org is. The 0.06 release is now finally up on ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/classpath/ I changed the webpages to point again to this location for downloading it. And added a little news item to the Savannah pages. I did ask about moving it to ftp.gnu.org, and about putting back older releases and putting up daily snapshot releases, but they didn't currently have time to do that. They are looking for an extra system administrator BTW so in the future these things will hopefully be handled a little smoother. See http://www.gnu.org/jobs/fsf-sysadmin.html Cheers, Mark signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
SableVM and Classpath 0.06
Classpath and SableVM developers, I started merging Classpath 0.06 with SableVM. My goal is to minimize the number of changes required in Classpath and SableVM. In the next few days / weeks, I will start giving some feedback to the Classpath team. (I couldn't wait to announce it!) Most work is currently done. As a test, I was able to run Ant with SableVM / Classpath 0.06 to build successfully SableCC. People interested in using/testing SableVM/Classpath 0.06 may get it from the SableVM svn repository. Note that it is still experimental. It will get much stable in the next few weeks. It is located in: /developers/belanger/sandbox/sablevm-classpath/ Info on how to access the svn repository is here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=2629744forum_id=4154 SableVM is built as before. Look at /developers/belanger/sandbox/sablevm-classpath/bin/build_classpath to know how to build classpath for SableVM. You will have to do symlinks to map Classpath library names to SableVM library names. Look at: /developers/belanger/sandbox/sablevm-classpath/bin/make_symlinks David --- David Bélanger Graduate Student School of Computer Science McGill University Office: MC226 Web page: http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~dbelan2/ Public key: http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~dbelan2/public_key.txt ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
RE: GNU Classpath 0.06 created
Hi, Does ORP 1.10 work with this new release? After browsing through the mailing list archives, I cannot find why ORP is broken with the classpath. I really like to do some experiments on some server benchmarks like tomcat/jboss and jbb by using ORP+classpath, and I believe the latest classpath support these benchmarks arleady. Qiong On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 18:07, Per Bothner wrote: You don't put releases on alpha.gnu.org - you put them on ftp.gnu.org. You can put pre-releases on alpha.gnu.org, but if you already have a release there seems little point. My thinking was that the 0.0x releases are actually the pre-releases while we work towards the first real GNU Classpath 1.0 release. People can combine these pre-releases with their own VMs like gcj, kissme, jikesRVM, Jaos, etc already do. But as long as we don't have at least a minimum of functionality to offer (we are hoping that 1.0 will have the equivalent functionality as core libraries that come with some proprietary 1.1 JDKs) and a stable/maintainable VM interface we cannot call it a real release. We do hope that people try these pre-releases out to create compilers and/or VM environments so they can give us feedback what should be improved for the real 1.0 release. (And I also don't have access to ftp.gnu.org) Cheers, Mark ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
RE: GNU Classpath 0.06 created
Hi, On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 08:07, Qiong Cai wrote: Does ORP 1.10 work with this new release? After browsing through the mailing list archives, I cannot find why ORP is broken with the classpath. I don't think Orp will work out of the box with the 0.06 snapshot. But the changes since the last version aren't that big. All changes relevant to VM implementers are listed in the NEWS file. Most will just require updating some vm/reference classes. If you contact the Orp developers about this please let us know if/when it works. I really like to do some experiments on some server benchmarks like tomcat/jboss and jbb by using ORP+classpath, and I believe the latest classpath support these benchmarks arleady. I would be very interested in how this works out. Note that there are some patches by the JikesRVM hackers for javax.naming that are labeled as JBoss improvements but that didn't make it for 0.06. Cheers, Mark ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: GNU Classpath 0.06 created
Mark Wielaard wrote: Although I don't have access yet to alpha.gnu.org to publish the release I have already created the 0.06 release tarball. I also tagged the CVS tree as 'classpath-0_06-release'. You don't put releases on alpha.gnu.org - you put them on ftp.gnu.org. You can put pre-releases on alpha.gnu.org, but if you already have a release there seems little point. -- --Per Bothner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://per.bothner.com/ ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: GNU Classpath 0.06 created
Hi, On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 18:07, Per Bothner wrote: You don't put releases on alpha.gnu.org - you put them on ftp.gnu.org. You can put pre-releases on alpha.gnu.org, but if you already have a release there seems little point. My thinking was that the 0.0x releases are actually the pre-releases while we work towards the first real GNU Classpath 1.0 release. People can combine these pre-releases with their own VMs like gcj, kissme, jikesRVM, Jaos, etc already do. But as long as we don't have at least a minimum of functionality to offer (we are hoping that 1.0 will have the equivalent functionality as core libraries that come with some proprietary 1.1 JDKs) and a stable/maintainable VM interface we cannot call it a real release. We do hope that people try these pre-releases out to create compilers and/or VM environments so they can give us feedback what should be improved for the real 1.0 release. (And I also don't have access to ftp.gnu.org) Cheers, Mark ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
GNU Classpath 0.06 created
Hi, Although I don't have access yet to alpha.gnu.org to publish the release I have already created the 0.06 release tarball. I also tagged the CVS tree as 'classpath-0_06-release'. Current tarball can be found at: http://www.klomp.org/mark/classpath/classpath-0.06.tar.gz It has the following MD5 sum: d6f6506790d1166d0cd20dcde3221297 classpath-0.06.tar.gz I will make the real announcement about 0.06 as soon as it is up at the official GNU ftp server. Please feel free to hack on the CVS tree again. Hope this message makes it to the mailinglist since messages seem to go very slow the last couple of days. Cheers, Mark ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: GNU Classpath 0.06 created
Mark Wielaard wrote: My thinking was that the 0.0x releases are actually the pre-releases while we work towards the first real GNU Classpath 1.0 release. People can combine these pre-releases with their own VMs like gcj, kissme, jikesRVM, Jaos, etc already do. But as long as we don't have at least a minimum of functionality to offer (we are hoping that 1.0 will have the equivalent functionality as core libraries that come with some proprietary 1.1 JDKs) and a stable/maintainable VM interface we cannot call it a real release. If you've created a cvs tag, and given it a real version number, I'd call it a release, even if it's not a 1.0 relase. alpha.gnu.org has outlived its usefulness (evidenced by the fact that it is little used) now that alpha code is available in CVS for most projects. Note that alpha.gnu.org is not mirrored the way ftp.gnu.org is. -- --Per Bothner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://per.bothner.com/ ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: classpath 0.06?
Hi, On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 15:56, David P Grove wrote: There was some discussion a month or so ago about making a classpath 0.06 distribution. Is there a chance this could happen sometime relatively soon? We're thinking about making the next release of Jikes RVM in 2-3 weeks and it would be great to be able to get all the hard work done in classpath since 0.05 out to our users. Almost all of them use classpath 0.05 instead of classpath cvs head because the install process is easier. Having a release/snapshot now seems like good idea since 0.05 has been almost 6 months ago now. I would like to propose a quick release schedule of about three weeks. First one and a half week to get the last things in that people feel we must have for 0.06 (e.g. make sure the Aicas JNI C native layer is complete, update the gjdoc api generation, there is also one SecurityManager/VMSecurityManager thing that might be nice, maybe the Thread/VMThread thing, although it might be a bit big to change so close to the release). Feel free to make suggestions (but be prepared to provide code soon). And then have one and a half week to stabilize this thing and make sure it works with as much VMs (CVS versions probably) as possible. Then lets try to release it on August 15 2003 which would be precisely 6 months after 0.05. What do people think about this plan? Cheers, Mark ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: classpath 0.06?
Hi, On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 19:31, Brian Jones wrote: I can help to physically get it on the ftp server, etc. if Mark needs it. Paul has given me access to the ftp and alpha download areas. But I have not tried out these new powers yet. Help with packaging and putting things on the right servers will be highly appreciated when the time comes. Thanks, Mark ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: classpath 0.06?
Hi, On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 11:56, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Sorry, maybe a idiot question, but is there a release plan for 0.06, 0.07, ..., 1.0? Good questions. There is no real release plan for 0.0x, 0.0x+1, etc. We just agreed to make a release roughly every couple of months. The plan for GNU Classpath 1.0 has always been to have core libraries comparable to what JDK 1.1 provided. We have reached that goal and gone far beyond it for some packages, but for java.awt this is still not reached. Two other important things. The first is that we want be merged as much as possible with libgcj, again most has been done see http://gcc.gnu.org/java/libgcj-classpath-compare.html but there remain a couple of tricky things not really on that page (e.g. char set encoding and url handlers). And merging more with libgcj relies on the other important thing to have for 1.0 and that is a clear maintainable VM integration layer (the SecurityManager/VMSecurityManager and Thread/VMThread split mentioned earlier are part of this). What this all means is that for declaring GNU Classpath 1.0 we want to have something that we feel is good enough that free VMs can use it out of the box and that we can confidentially say is maintainable and stable enough to use. Is it a problem if there are more releases? No, we can certainly do releases (or semi-stable snapshots) more often then every 6 months. But it does take a non-zero amount of time to prepare a real release so then we should make sure we have enough resources to pull that off. Isn't the website a bit out of date or will it be updated only when a new release will be done? If someone gives suggestions or even wants to update it a bit please do. Documentation is always the last priority even though it is very important to get right. All current pages can be found in CVS under doc/www.gnu.org. There is a little README in that directory that needs at least one change and that is that we would really like people to discuss anything about it on this mailinglist. Cheers, Mark ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
classpath 0.06?
There was some discussion a month or so ago about making a classpath 0.06 distribution. Is there a chance this could happen sometime relatively soon? We're thinking about making the next release of Jikes RVM in 2-3 weeks and it would be great to be able to get all the hard work done in classpath since 0.05 out to our users. Almost all of them use classpath 0.05 instead of classpath cvs head because the install process is easier. --dave___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: classpath 0.06?
David P Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There was some discussion a month or so ago about making a classpath 0.06 distribution. Is there a chance this could happen sometime relatively soon? We're thinking about making the next release of Jikes RVM in 2-3 weeks and it would be great to be able to get all the hard work done in classpath since 0.05 out to our users. Almost all of them use classpath 0.05 instead of classpath cvs head because the install process is easier. I can help to physically get it on the ftp server, etc. if Mark needs it. Brian -- Brian Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
