Re: Clojure 1.3 treatment of integers and longs

2011-10-18 Thread Kevin Downey
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:45 PM, nathanmarz  wrote:
> Thanks. I read through that and it didn't quite answer my question. To
> me it seems more logical that:
>
> 1. Clojure defaults to longs when you create a new number (with a
> literal 0, 1, etc)
> 2. You can create ints by doing (int 0)
> 3. Clojure never changes the types of things you're using

I think you'll find that clojure doesn't change types, except where
required, mostly for boxing. Clojure 1.2 would construct a new Integer
around an int when required. Clojure 1.3 constructs a new Long around
an int instead, because rich has decided he prefers longs and doubles
to ints and floats. If you want to do your own boxing prior to using a
value in a way that would box it, you can, and your type will not
"change"

user> (def boxed-by-clojure (.intValue 3))
#'user/boxed-by-clojure
user> (type boxed-by-clojure)
java.lang.Long
user> (def boxed-by-me (Integer. (.intValue 3)))
#'user/boxed-by-me
user> (type boxed-by-me)
java.lang.Integer
user>

> I find Clojure's behavior of changing the types of primitive ints to
> longs highly unusual, and it is causing a lot of pain in upgrading
> Storm to 1.3.
>
> I don't mean to imply that the design choices made were wrong; I know
> that Rich et al put a lot of thought and work into these changes. But
> I would like to understand why changing the types of ints to longs is
> necessary instead of supporting primitive ints as well.
>
> -Nathan
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2:25 pm, David Nolen  wrote:
>> 233 messages long thread from June 
>> 2010,http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/browse_thread/thread/c8c850595...
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM, nathanmarz  wrote:
>> > Hey all,
>>
>> > I recently started upgrading Storm to Clojure 1.3, and I ran into
>> > various issues due to Clojure's treatment of integers and longs. In
>> > particular, I have a situation like the following:
>>
>> > 1. A Java object returns me an int. Let's call this value "v".
>> > 2. I put "v" into a map, and pass that map into a Java object
>> > 3. I get ClassCastExceptions when that Java object tries to read that
>> > Integer and instead gets a Long back
>>
>> > The error arises due to Clojure's auto-coercion of primitive ints to
>> > longs.
>>
>> > Auto-coercing ints to longs is prone to errors like I ran into,
>> > especially when interoperating with Java code. It becomes especially
>> > confusing when considering that "Integer" objects do not get coerced
>> > to "Long" objects. Also, if Clojure is trying to treat everything as
>> > longs, I don't understand why there's an unchecked-divide-int function
>> > and not an unchecked-divide-long function.
>>
>> > What's the rationale behind all this? Why not support both ints and
>> > longs? I'm sure this has been discussed before, so feel free to point
>> > me to earlier discussions on this.
>>
>> > -Nathan
>>
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Will clojurescript get in-ns and load?

2011-10-18 Thread Dave Sann
Is it planned for clojurescript to get *in-ns* and *load*.

These would be most useful for code modularisation (see thread Reuse of 
generic Clojure/ClojureScript code?)

Cheers

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Re: Reuse of generic Clojure/ClojureScript code?

2011-10-18 Thread Dave Sann
If/when clojurescript gets* in-ns* and *load* the previously outlined 
solution could be improved.

I could use load to include platform specific ports of intended core library 
capability into the generic files. This would mean that you would only need 
to require the generic file, regardless of platform.

requiring or using a .x library would be used only where functionality was 
not planned or intended to be made portable.

This would be very handy

Is it planned for these functions to be developed?

Cheers

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Re: Clojure 1.3 treatment of integers and longs

2011-10-18 Thread nathanmarz
Thanks. I read through that and it didn't quite answer my question. To
me it seems more logical that:

1. Clojure defaults to longs when you create a new number (with a
literal 0, 1, etc)
2. You can create ints by doing (int 0)
3. Clojure never changes the types of things you're using

I find Clojure's behavior of changing the types of primitive ints to
longs highly unusual, and it is causing a lot of pain in upgrading
Storm to 1.3.

I don't mean to imply that the design choices made were wrong; I know
that Rich et al put a lot of thought and work into these changes. But
I would like to understand why changing the types of ints to longs is
necessary instead of supporting primitive ints as well.

-Nathan


On Oct 18, 2:25 pm, David Nolen  wrote:
> 233 messages long thread from June 
> 2010,http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/browse_thread/thread/c8c850595...
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM, nathanmarz  wrote:
> > Hey all,
>
> > I recently started upgrading Storm to Clojure 1.3, and I ran into
> > various issues due to Clojure's treatment of integers and longs. In
> > particular, I have a situation like the following:
>
> > 1. A Java object returns me an int. Let's call this value "v".
> > 2. I put "v" into a map, and pass that map into a Java object
> > 3. I get ClassCastExceptions when that Java object tries to read that
> > Integer and instead gets a Long back
>
> > The error arises due to Clojure's auto-coercion of primitive ints to
> > longs.
>
> > Auto-coercing ints to longs is prone to errors like I ran into,
> > especially when interoperating with Java code. It becomes especially
> > confusing when considering that "Integer" objects do not get coerced
> > to "Long" objects. Also, if Clojure is trying to treat everything as
> > longs, I don't understand why there's an unchecked-divide-int function
> > and not an unchecked-divide-long function.
>
> > What's the rationale behind all this? Why not support both ints and
> > longs? I'm sure this has been discussed before, so feel free to point
> > me to earlier discussions on this.
>
> > -Nathan
>
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Re: Who will be at QCon SF?

2011-10-18 Thread Aaron Bedra

I will be there and am giving a talk in the functional web track

http://qconsf.com/sf2011/presentation/One+%28%29+to+Rule+them+All

See you on the coast.

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On 09/27/2011 06:28 PM, Demetrius Nunes wrote:

Hi guys,

I'd love to meet with fellow "clojurians" at QCon SF. How many of you 
will be there?


cheers!
Demetrius

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Re: Clojure 1.3 treatment of integers and longs

2011-10-18 Thread David Nolen
233 messages long thread from June 2010,
http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/browse_thread/thread/c8c850595c91cc11/171cacba292a0583

David

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM, nathanmarz  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I recently started upgrading Storm to Clojure 1.3, and I ran into
> various issues due to Clojure's treatment of integers and longs. In
> particular, I have a situation like the following:
>
> 1. A Java object returns me an int. Let's call this value "v".
> 2. I put "v" into a map, and pass that map into a Java object
> 3. I get ClassCastExceptions when that Java object tries to read that
> Integer and instead gets a Long back
>
> The error arises due to Clojure's auto-coercion of primitive ints to
> longs.
>
> Auto-coercing ints to longs is prone to errors like I ran into,
> especially when interoperating with Java code. It becomes especially
> confusing when considering that "Integer" objects do not get coerced
> to "Long" objects. Also, if Clojure is trying to treat everything as
> longs, I don't understand why there's an unchecked-divide-int function
> and not an unchecked-divide-long function.
>
> What's the rationale behind all this? Why not support both ints and
> longs? I'm sure this has been discussed before, so feel free to point
> me to earlier discussions on this.
>
> -Nathan
>
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Clojure 1.3 treatment of integers and longs

2011-10-18 Thread nathanmarz
Hey all,

I recently started upgrading Storm to Clojure 1.3, and I ran into
various issues due to Clojure's treatment of integers and longs. In
particular, I have a situation like the following:

1. A Java object returns me an int. Let's call this value "v".
2. I put "v" into a map, and pass that map into a Java object
3. I get ClassCastExceptions when that Java object tries to read that
Integer and instead gets a Long back

The error arises due to Clojure's auto-coercion of primitive ints to
longs.

Auto-coercing ints to longs is prone to errors like I ran into,
especially when interoperating with Java code. It becomes especially
confusing when considering that "Integer" objects do not get coerced
to "Long" objects. Also, if Clojure is trying to treat everything as
longs, I don't understand why there's an unchecked-divide-int function
and not an unchecked-divide-long function.

What's the rationale behind all this? Why not support both ints and
longs? I'm sure this has been discussed before, so feel free to point
me to earlier discussions on this.

-Nathan

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Re: clojure.string no namespace error

2011-10-18 Thread Omer Kudat
Thanks, I think I was trying to wrong thing (don't know why I was trying to 
use import rather than require).

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Re: clojure.string no namespace error

2011-10-18 Thread Aaron Bedra

Here's an example from the REPL that should get you going:

user => (require '[clojure.string :as str])
nil
user=> (str/split-lines "foo\nbar\r\nbaz\n")
["foo" "bar" "baz"]

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On 10/18/2011 05:52 AM, Omer Kudat wrote:

Hi all,

I've started to teach myself clojure recently, so apologies for a
potentially stupid question.

I'm using clojure-1.3.0.jar, downloaded very recently. I would like to
use clojure.string/split-lines, but I cannot access the namespace.

I've tried:
(import 'clojure.string)
(import 'string)
and
(:require [clojure.string :as str]))

The last one is from the documentation in the string.clj file embedded
in the jar. They all throw either a "java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
clojure.string" or a "java.lang.Exception: No namespace:
clojure.string".

Calling (all-ns) gives me a list of namespaces which does not include
string, and (find-ns) doesn't find clojure.string either.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any pieces of wisdom?
Omer



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Re: "ClojureScript Mobile" BOF at the Clojure/conj?

2011-10-18 Thread Chouser
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Chas Emerick  wrote:
> On Oct 18, 11:12 am, Michael Fogus  wrote:
>> > Anyone from the Clojure/conj org committee
>>
>> While I'm not on the organization committee, I will say that
>> side-events like this would be spectacular.  The logistics escape me
>> at the moment, but perhaps spontaneity is the best approach?
>
> …or even a little light planning if you really want to get a group
> together.  There are way too many special interests for any single
> body to plan for.  Absolutely nothing is keeping someone from creating
> a google docs spreadsheet, defining some time slots, and dropping
> talks / BOFs / topical hack sessions in, quasi-unconference style.

I love this idea -- google spreadsheet of extra events.

/me waits for someone to post a link.

--Chouser

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Re: What changed 1.2/1.3 to cause this program slowdown?

2011-10-18 Thread Alan Malloy
I'm not an expert on the topic, but the threadring example has some
suspicious ^Integer hints on values that were integers in 1.2 and are
longs in 1.3 (ie, they were created from numeric literals). The hints
don't seem to be actually being used, so I don't think this has an
impact, but perhaps mentioning it will help someone else find the
problem.

On Oct 18, 9:44 am, Isaac Gouy  wrote:
> thread-ring Clojure 1.2
> N=50 1.8 secs
> N=500 7.1 secs
> N=5000 58.3 secs
>
> thread-ring Clojure 1.3
> N=50 2.8 secs
> N=500 25.3 secs
> N=5000 >1800 secs
>
> http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/program.php?test=threadring&la...
>
> chameneos-redux Clojure 1.2
> N=50 2.7 secs
> N=500 11.5 secs
> N=5000 100.0 secs
>
> chameneos-redux Clojure 1.3
> N=50 2.9 secs
> N=500 18.1 secs
> N=5000 >1800 secs
>
> http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/program.php?test=chameneosredu...

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Re: Macro not working - newbie question

2011-10-18 Thread Alan Malloy
Simpler to just use the field names which are already bound, rather
than constructing keywords out of them and calling them with juxt:

(defmacro defrecord-withstr [name fields columns include?]
  (let [displayed (if include? columns (remove (set columns) fields))]
`(defrecord ~name ~fields
   Object
   (toString [_#]
 (clojure.string/join " " [~@displayed])

On Oct 18, 9:25 am, "Marshall T. Vandegrift" 
wrote:
> Dusan  writes:
> > (symbol(str "(str (:" % " " vv "))"))
>
> This expression is the (immediate) problem child.  You are producing a
> symbol which contains literal space and parenthesis characters embedded
> in it.  When you print out the macro-expansion, it looks fine, but the
> actual forms generated contain that weird symbol instead of the expected
> list structure.
>
> You do have other problems though --
>
>   - A symbol prefixed with a colon is just a symbol prefixed with a
>     colon, not a keyword.   You need to use the `keyword' function to
>     create a keyword from a symbol or string.
>
>   - Instead of calling `gensym' directly, it's probably easier to just
>     use autogensyms in this sort of situation.
>
> For fun, here's a (hopefully) more idiomatic version:
>
> (defmacro defrecord-withstr [name fields columns include?]
>   (let [displayed (->> (if include? columns (remove (set columns) fields))
>                        (map keyword))]
>     `(defrecord ~name ~fields
>        Object
>        (toString [this#]
>          (str/join " " ((juxt ~@displayed) this#))
>
> -Marshall

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What changed 1.2/1.3 to cause this program slowdown?

2011-10-18 Thread Isaac Gouy
thread-ring Clojure 1.2
N=50 1.8 secs
N=500 7.1 secs
N=5000 58.3 secs

thread-ring Clojure 1.3
N=50 2.8 secs
N=500 25.3 secs
N=5000 >1800 secs

http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/program.php?test=threadring&lang=clojure&id=1


chameneos-redux Clojure 1.2
N=50 2.7 secs
N=500 11.5 secs
N=5000 100.0 secs

chameneos-redux Clojure 1.3
N=50 2.9 secs
N=500 18.1 secs
N=5000 >1800 secs

http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/program.php?test=chameneosredux&lang=clojure&id=1

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Re: Macro not working - newbie question

2011-10-18 Thread Marshall T. Vandegrift
Dusan  writes:

> (symbol(str "(str (:" % " " vv "))"))

This expression is the (immediate) problem child.  You are producing a
symbol which contains literal space and parenthesis characters embedded
in it.  When you print out the macro-expansion, it looks fine, but the
actual forms generated contain that weird symbol instead of the expected
list structure.

You do have other problems though -- 

  - A symbol prefixed with a colon is just a symbol prefixed with a
colon, not a keyword.   You need to use the `keyword' function to
create a keyword from a symbol or string.

  - Instead of calling `gensym' directly, it's probably easier to just
use autogensyms in this sort of situation.

For fun, here's a (hopefully) more idiomatic version:

(defmacro defrecord-withstr [name fields columns include?]
  (let [displayed (->> (if include? columns (remove (set columns) fields))
   (map keyword))]
`(defrecord ~name ~fields
   Object
   (toString [this#]
 (str/join " " ((juxt ~@displayed) this#))

-Marshall

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Re: "ClojureScript Mobile" BOF at the Clojure/conj?

2011-10-18 Thread Chas Emerick
On Oct 18, 11:12 am, Michael Fogus  wrote:
> > Anyone from the Clojure/conj org committee
>
> While I'm not on the organization committee, I will say that
> side-events like this would be spectacular.  The logistics escape me
> at the moment, but perhaps spontaneity is the best approach?

…or even a little light planning if you really want to get a group
together.  There are way too many special interests for any single
body to plan for.  Absolutely nothing is keeping someone from creating
a google docs spreadsheet, defining some time slots, and dropping
talks / BOFs / topical hack sessions in, quasi-unconference style.

I don't know what accepted etiquette is around doing such things in
parallel with "regular" conferences, but I'd think good form would
dictate that topics shouldn't "compete" with the scheduled talk.  e.g.
A ClojureScript mobile BOF probably shouldn't be scheduled opposite
the announced ClojureScript talks.  In any case, I'd think that the
7pm - 12am period would be a perfect time for topical groups to form.

- Chas

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Re: "ClojureScript Mobile" BOF at the Clojure/conj?

2011-10-18 Thread Roger Austin
 Michael Fogus  wrote: 
> > Anyone from the Clojure/conj org committee
> 
> While I'm not on the organization committee, I will say that
> side-events like this would be spectacular.  The logistics escape me
> at the moment, but perhaps spontaneity is the best approach?

As a Raleigh local, I can attest at the availability of some awesome bars, 
restaurants, and coffee shops within easy walking distance of the Sheraton. 
Perhaps these would offer locations for any BOFs.
 
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Re: Get the name of keyword/symbol in clojurescript

2011-10-18 Thread Jonathan Fischer Friberg
It works!

Thanks for all the help.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:52 PM, David Nolen  wrote:

> I see you're not setting the encoding. Try adding the following to the top
> of 
>
> 
>
> David
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I did a minimal example
>> https://gist.github.com/1295749
>>
>> Result is in the attachment.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:22 PM, David Nolen wrote:
>>
>>> Try removing the following:
>>>
>>> file.js
>>> out
>>>
>>> and recompiling. I also recommend compiling one of the ClojureScript
>>> samples that you haven't checked out yet to see if the issue is
>>> reproducible.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
>>> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 It works now, and the result is as expected.

 In the browser I still get the extra characters however.


 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:04 PM, David Nolen wrote:

> Have you rerun the bootstrap script since the Rhino upgrade?
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I can't run that repl, I get
>>
>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.RuntimeException:
>> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.mozilla.javascript.Context
>> at clojure.lang.Util.runtimeException(Util.java:165)
>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6435)
>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6414)
>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.load(Compiler.java:6861)
>> at clojure.lang.RT.loadResourceScript(RT.java:357)
>> at clojure.lang.RT.loadResourceScript(RT.java:348)
>> at clojure.lang.RT.load(RT.java:427)
>> at clojure.lang.RT.load(RT.java:398)
>> at clojure.core$load$fn__4610.invoke(core.clj:5386)
>> at clojure.core$load.doInvoke(core.clj:5385)
>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:408)
>> at clojure.core$load_one.invoke(core.clj:5200)
>> at clojure.core$load_lib.doInvoke(core.clj:5237)
>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:142)
>> at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:602)
>> at clojure.core$load_libs.doInvoke(core.clj:5271)
>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:137)
>> at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:602)
>> at clojure.core$require.doInvoke(core.clj:5352)
>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:408)
>> at user$eval1715.invoke(NO_SOURCE_FILE:2)
>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6424)
>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6390)
>> at clojure.core$eval.invoke(core.clj:2795)
>> at clojure.main$eval_opt.invoke(main.clj:296)
>> at clojure.main$initialize.invoke(main.clj:315)
>> at clojure.main$null_opt.invoke(main.clj:348)
>> at clojure.main$main.doInvoke(main.clj:426)
>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:421)
>> at clojure.lang.Var.invoke(Var.java:405)
>> at clojure.lang.AFn.applyToHelper(AFn.java:163)
>> at clojure.lang.Var.applyTo(Var.java:518)
>> at clojure.main.main(main.java:37)
>> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
>> org.mozilla.javascript.Context
>> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
>> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
>> at
>> clojure.lang.DynamicClassLoader.findClass(DynamicClassLoader.java:61)
>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:321)
>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:266)
>> at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
>> at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:186)
>> at
>> cljs.repl.rhino$eval1719$loading__4505__auto1720.invoke(rhino.clj:9)
>> at cljs.repl.rhino$eval1719.invoke(rhino.clj:9)
>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6424)
>> ... 31 more
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:25 PM, David Nolen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does the same problem occur when trying this at the REPL (say via
>>> script/repljs) ?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
>>> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I'm on the master branch.

 I compiled the file using 'cljsc file > file.js', and run it in the
 browser.


 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:16 AM, David Nolen <
 dnolen.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are you using ClojureScript HEAD? If you are and you are still
> seeing this under what conditions (advanced mode, browser REPL, etc.) 
> ?
>
> David
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
> odys

Re: Get the name of keyword/symbol in clojurescript

2011-10-18 Thread David Nolen
I see you're not setting the encoding. Try adding the following to the top
of 



David

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I did a minimal example
> https://gist.github.com/1295749
>
> Result is in the attachment.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:22 PM, David Nolen wrote:
>
>> Try removing the following:
>>
>> file.js
>> out
>>
>> and recompiling. I also recommend compiling one of the ClojureScript
>> samples that you haven't checked out yet to see if the issue is
>> reproducible.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
>> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It works now, and the result is as expected.
>>>
>>> In the browser I still get the extra characters however.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:04 PM, David Nolen wrote:
>>>
 Have you rerun the bootstrap script since the Rhino upgrade?


 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
 odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can't run that repl, I get
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.RuntimeException:
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.mozilla.javascript.Context
> at clojure.lang.Util.runtimeException(Util.java:165)
> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6435)
> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6414)
> at clojure.lang.Compiler.load(Compiler.java:6861)
> at clojure.lang.RT.loadResourceScript(RT.java:357)
> at clojure.lang.RT.loadResourceScript(RT.java:348)
> at clojure.lang.RT.load(RT.java:427)
> at clojure.lang.RT.load(RT.java:398)
> at clojure.core$load$fn__4610.invoke(core.clj:5386)
> at clojure.core$load.doInvoke(core.clj:5385)
> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:408)
> at clojure.core$load_one.invoke(core.clj:5200)
> at clojure.core$load_lib.doInvoke(core.clj:5237)
> at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:142)
> at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:602)
> at clojure.core$load_libs.doInvoke(core.clj:5271)
> at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:137)
> at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:602)
> at clojure.core$require.doInvoke(core.clj:5352)
> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:408)
> at user$eval1715.invoke(NO_SOURCE_FILE:2)
> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6424)
> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6390)
> at clojure.core$eval.invoke(core.clj:2795)
> at clojure.main$eval_opt.invoke(main.clj:296)
> at clojure.main$initialize.invoke(main.clj:315)
> at clojure.main$null_opt.invoke(main.clj:348)
> at clojure.main$main.doInvoke(main.clj:426)
> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:421)
> at clojure.lang.Var.invoke(Var.java:405)
> at clojure.lang.AFn.applyToHelper(AFn.java:163)
> at clojure.lang.Var.applyTo(Var.java:518)
> at clojure.main.main(main.java:37)
> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
> org.mozilla.javascript.Context
> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
> at
> clojure.lang.DynamicClassLoader.findClass(DynamicClassLoader.java:61)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:321)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:266)
> at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
> at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:186)
> at
> cljs.repl.rhino$eval1719$loading__4505__auto1720.invoke(rhino.clj:9)
> at cljs.repl.rhino$eval1719.invoke(rhino.clj:9)
> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6424)
> ... 31 more
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:25 PM, David Nolen 
> wrote:
>
>> Does the same problem occur when trying this at the REPL (say via
>> script/repljs) ?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
>> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm on the master branch.
>>>
>>> I compiled the file using 'cljsc file > file.js', and run it in the
>>> browser.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:16 AM, David Nolen >> > wrote:
>>>
 Are you using ClojureScript HEAD? If you are and you are still
 seeing this under what conditions (advanced mode, browser REPL, etc.) ?

 David

 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
 odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As I understand it, clojurescript uses some unicode characters to
> identify keywords/symbols.
> I guess that's why (str 'a) gives me ï·‘'a
> I thought that this was intenti

Re: Get the name of keyword/symbol in clojurescript

2011-10-18 Thread David Nolen
Try removing the following:

file.js
out

and recompiling. I also recommend compiling one of the ClojureScript samples
that you haven't checked out yet to see if the issue is reproducible.

David

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It works now, and the result is as expected.
>
> In the browser I still get the extra characters however.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:04 PM, David Nolen wrote:
>
>> Have you rerun the bootstrap script since the Rhino upgrade?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
>> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I can't run that repl, I get
>>>
>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.RuntimeException:
>>> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.mozilla.javascript.Context
>>> at clojure.lang.Util.runtimeException(Util.java:165)
>>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6435)
>>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6414)
>>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.load(Compiler.java:6861)
>>> at clojure.lang.RT.loadResourceScript(RT.java:357)
>>> at clojure.lang.RT.loadResourceScript(RT.java:348)
>>> at clojure.lang.RT.load(RT.java:427)
>>> at clojure.lang.RT.load(RT.java:398)
>>> at clojure.core$load$fn__4610.invoke(core.clj:5386)
>>> at clojure.core$load.doInvoke(core.clj:5385)
>>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:408)
>>> at clojure.core$load_one.invoke(core.clj:5200)
>>> at clojure.core$load_lib.doInvoke(core.clj:5237)
>>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:142)
>>> at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:602)
>>> at clojure.core$load_libs.doInvoke(core.clj:5271)
>>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:137)
>>> at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:602)
>>> at clojure.core$require.doInvoke(core.clj:5352)
>>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:408)
>>> at user$eval1715.invoke(NO_SOURCE_FILE:2)
>>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6424)
>>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6390)
>>> at clojure.core$eval.invoke(core.clj:2795)
>>> at clojure.main$eval_opt.invoke(main.clj:296)
>>> at clojure.main$initialize.invoke(main.clj:315)
>>> at clojure.main$null_opt.invoke(main.clj:348)
>>> at clojure.main$main.doInvoke(main.clj:426)
>>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:421)
>>> at clojure.lang.Var.invoke(Var.java:405)
>>> at clojure.lang.AFn.applyToHelper(AFn.java:163)
>>> at clojure.lang.Var.applyTo(Var.java:518)
>>> at clojure.main.main(main.java:37)
>>> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
>>> org.mozilla.javascript.Context
>>> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
>>> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
>>> at
>>> clojure.lang.DynamicClassLoader.findClass(DynamicClassLoader.java:61)
>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:321)
>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:266)
>>> at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
>>> at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:186)
>>> at
>>> cljs.repl.rhino$eval1719$loading__4505__auto1720.invoke(rhino.clj:9)
>>> at cljs.repl.rhino$eval1719.invoke(rhino.clj:9)
>>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6424)
>>> ... 31 more
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:25 PM, David Nolen wrote:
>>>
 Does the same problem occur when trying this at the REPL (say via
 script/repljs) ?

 David


 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
 odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm on the master branch.
>
> I compiled the file using 'cljsc file > file.js', and run it in the
> browser.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:16 AM, David Nolen 
> wrote:
>
>> Are you using ClojureScript HEAD? If you are and you are still seeing
>> this under what conditions (advanced mode, browser REPL, etc.) ?
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
>> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As I understand it, clojurescript uses some unicode characters to
>>> identify keywords/symbols.
>>> I guess that's why (str 'a) gives me ï·‘'a
>>> I thought that this was intentional, and that (name 'a) would give me
>>> "a", but I got the same result as with (str).
>>>
>>> So how do I extract the name from a symbol or keyword in
>>> clojurescript?
>>> Also, is this behavior intentional, and if so, why?
>>>
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Re: Get the name of keyword/symbol in clojurescript

2011-10-18 Thread Jonathan Fischer Friberg
It works now, and the result is as expected.

In the browser I still get the extra characters however.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:04 PM, David Nolen  wrote:

> Have you rerun the bootstrap script since the Rhino upgrade?
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I can't run that repl, I get
>>
>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.RuntimeException:
>> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.mozilla.javascript.Context
>> at clojure.lang.Util.runtimeException(Util.java:165)
>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6435)
>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6414)
>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.load(Compiler.java:6861)
>> at clojure.lang.RT.loadResourceScript(RT.java:357)
>> at clojure.lang.RT.loadResourceScript(RT.java:348)
>> at clojure.lang.RT.load(RT.java:427)
>> at clojure.lang.RT.load(RT.java:398)
>> at clojure.core$load$fn__4610.invoke(core.clj:5386)
>> at clojure.core$load.doInvoke(core.clj:5385)
>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:408)
>> at clojure.core$load_one.invoke(core.clj:5200)
>> at clojure.core$load_lib.doInvoke(core.clj:5237)
>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:142)
>> at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:602)
>> at clojure.core$load_libs.doInvoke(core.clj:5271)
>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:137)
>> at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:602)
>> at clojure.core$require.doInvoke(core.clj:5352)
>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:408)
>> at user$eval1715.invoke(NO_SOURCE_FILE:2)
>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6424)
>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6390)
>> at clojure.core$eval.invoke(core.clj:2795)
>> at clojure.main$eval_opt.invoke(main.clj:296)
>> at clojure.main$initialize.invoke(main.clj:315)
>> at clojure.main$null_opt.invoke(main.clj:348)
>> at clojure.main$main.doInvoke(main.clj:426)
>> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:421)
>> at clojure.lang.Var.invoke(Var.java:405)
>> at clojure.lang.AFn.applyToHelper(AFn.java:163)
>> at clojure.lang.Var.applyTo(Var.java:518)
>> at clojure.main.main(main.java:37)
>> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
>> org.mozilla.javascript.Context
>> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
>> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
>> at
>> clojure.lang.DynamicClassLoader.findClass(DynamicClassLoader.java:61)
>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:321)
>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:266)
>> at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
>> at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:186)
>> at
>> cljs.repl.rhino$eval1719$loading__4505__auto1720.invoke(rhino.clj:9)
>> at cljs.repl.rhino$eval1719.invoke(rhino.clj:9)
>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6424)
>> ... 31 more
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:25 PM, David Nolen wrote:
>>
>>> Does the same problem occur when trying this at the REPL (say via
>>> script/repljs) ?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
>>> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I'm on the master branch.

 I compiled the file using 'cljsc file > file.js', and run it in the
 browser.


 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:16 AM, David Nolen wrote:

> Are you using ClojureScript HEAD? If you are and you are still seeing
> this under what conditions (advanced mode, browser REPL, etc.) ?
>
> David
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As I understand it, clojurescript uses some unicode characters to
>> identify keywords/symbols.
>> I guess that's why (str 'a) gives me ï·‘'a
>> I thought that this was intentional, and that (name 'a) would give me
>> "a", but I got the same result as with (str).
>>
>> So how do I extract the name from a symbol or keyword in
>> clojurescript?
>> Also, is this behavior intentional, and if so, why?
>>
>> --
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Re: "ClojureScript Mobile" BOF at the Clojure/conj?

2011-10-18 Thread Michael Fogus
> Anyone from the Clojure/conj org committee

While I'm not on the organization committee, I will say that
side-events like this would be spectacular.  The logistics escape me
at the moment, but perhaps spontaneity is the best approach?

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Re: Get the name of keyword/symbol in clojurescript

2011-10-18 Thread David Nolen
Have you rerun the bootstrap script since the Rhino upgrade?

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can't run that repl, I get
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.RuntimeException:
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.mozilla.javascript.Context
> at clojure.lang.Util.runtimeException(Util.java:165)
> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6435)
> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6414)
> at clojure.lang.Compiler.load(Compiler.java:6861)
> at clojure.lang.RT.loadResourceScript(RT.java:357)
> at clojure.lang.RT.loadResourceScript(RT.java:348)
> at clojure.lang.RT.load(RT.java:427)
> at clojure.lang.RT.load(RT.java:398)
> at clojure.core$load$fn__4610.invoke(core.clj:5386)
> at clojure.core$load.doInvoke(core.clj:5385)
> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:408)
> at clojure.core$load_one.invoke(core.clj:5200)
> at clojure.core$load_lib.doInvoke(core.clj:5237)
> at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:142)
> at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:602)
> at clojure.core$load_libs.doInvoke(core.clj:5271)
> at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:137)
> at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:602)
> at clojure.core$require.doInvoke(core.clj:5352)
> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:408)
> at user$eval1715.invoke(NO_SOURCE_FILE:2)
> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6424)
> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6390)
> at clojure.core$eval.invoke(core.clj:2795)
> at clojure.main$eval_opt.invoke(main.clj:296)
> at clojure.main$initialize.invoke(main.clj:315)
> at clojure.main$null_opt.invoke(main.clj:348)
> at clojure.main$main.doInvoke(main.clj:426)
> at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:421)
> at clojure.lang.Var.invoke(Var.java:405)
> at clojure.lang.AFn.applyToHelper(AFn.java:163)
> at clojure.lang.Var.applyTo(Var.java:518)
> at clojure.main.main(main.java:37)
> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.mozilla.javascript.Context
> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
> at
> clojure.lang.DynamicClassLoader.findClass(DynamicClassLoader.java:61)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:321)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:266)
> at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
> at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:186)
> at
> cljs.repl.rhino$eval1719$loading__4505__auto1720.invoke(rhino.clj:9)
> at cljs.repl.rhino$eval1719.invoke(rhino.clj:9)
> at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6424)
> ... 31 more
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:25 PM, David Nolen wrote:
>
>> Does the same problem occur when trying this at the REPL (say via
>> script/repljs) ?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
>> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm on the master branch.
>>>
>>> I compiled the file using 'cljsc file > file.js', and run it in the
>>> browser.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:16 AM, David Nolen wrote:
>>>
 Are you using ClojureScript HEAD? If you are and you are still seeing
 this under what conditions (advanced mode, browser REPL, etc.) ?

 David

 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
 odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As I understand it, clojurescript uses some unicode characters to
> identify keywords/symbols.
> I guess that's why (str 'a) gives me ï·‘'a
> I thought that this was intentional, and that (name 'a) would give me
> "a", but I got the same result as with (str).
>
> So how do I extract the name from a symbol or keyword in
> clojurescript?
> Also, is this behavior intentional, and if so, why?
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Re: Is there a reader setting support BigDecimal by default?

2011-10-18 Thread Tassilo Horn
Scott Hickey  writes:

Hi Scott,

> I'm looking to avoid qualifying every number that has a decimal point
> with an M. For the "business" applications I've built over the last 25
> years (credit card processing, healthcare claims, loans,etc.), there's
> never been a situation where inexact numbers were appropriate.

Nobody wants inexact numbers, but one has to trade speed with exactness.

And usually, you should refrain from using floating points at all, no
matter if BigDecimal or Double.  Clojure has rationals, so unless you
have to use java.lang.Math's functions or PI and E constants, you can
possibly do all calculations with rationals, and when you really need a
float, use (bigdec my-rational) to coerce it to a BigDecimal.

> That's why I was hoping for a global default for reading decimal
> numbers as BigDecimal instead of IEEE floats or doubles.

I've just checked, and that's hard-coded in clojure.lang.LispReader.

Bye,
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Re: Get the name of keyword/symbol in clojurescript

2011-10-18 Thread Jonathan Fischer Friberg
I can't run that repl, I get

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.RuntimeException:
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.mozilla.javascript.Context
at clojure.lang.Util.runtimeException(Util.java:165)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6435)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6414)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.load(Compiler.java:6861)
at clojure.lang.RT.loadResourceScript(RT.java:357)
at clojure.lang.RT.loadResourceScript(RT.java:348)
at clojure.lang.RT.load(RT.java:427)
at clojure.lang.RT.load(RT.java:398)
at clojure.core$load$fn__4610.invoke(core.clj:5386)
at clojure.core$load.doInvoke(core.clj:5385)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:408)
at clojure.core$load_one.invoke(core.clj:5200)
at clojure.core$load_lib.doInvoke(core.clj:5237)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:142)
at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:602)
at clojure.core$load_libs.doInvoke(core.clj:5271)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:137)
at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:602)
at clojure.core$require.doInvoke(core.clj:5352)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:408)
at user$eval1715.invoke(NO_SOURCE_FILE:2)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6424)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6390)
at clojure.core$eval.invoke(core.clj:2795)
at clojure.main$eval_opt.invoke(main.clj:296)
at clojure.main$initialize.invoke(main.clj:315)
at clojure.main$null_opt.invoke(main.clj:348)
at clojure.main$main.doInvoke(main.clj:426)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:421)
at clojure.lang.Var.invoke(Var.java:405)
at clojure.lang.AFn.applyToHelper(AFn.java:163)
at clojure.lang.Var.applyTo(Var.java:518)
at clojure.main.main(main.java:37)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.mozilla.javascript.Context
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
at clojure.lang.DynamicClassLoader.findClass(DynamicClassLoader.java:61)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:321)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:266)
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:186)
at
cljs.repl.rhino$eval1719$loading__4505__auto1720.invoke(rhino.clj:9)
at cljs.repl.rhino$eval1719.invoke(rhino.clj:9)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:6424)
... 31 more


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:25 PM, David Nolen  wrote:

> Does the same problem occur when trying this at the REPL (say via
> script/repljs) ?
>
> David
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm on the master branch.
>>
>> I compiled the file using 'cljsc file > file.js', and run it in the
>> browser.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:16 AM, David Nolen wrote:
>>
>>> Are you using ClojureScript HEAD? If you are and you are still seeing
>>> this under what conditions (advanced mode, browser REPL, etc.) ?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
>>> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 As I understand it, clojurescript uses some unicode characters to
 identify keywords/symbols.
 I guess that's why (str 'a) gives me ï·‘'a
 I thought that this was intentional, and that (name 'a) would give me
 "a", but I got the same result as with (str).

 So how do I extract the name from a symbol or keyword in clojurescript?
 Also, is this behavior intentional, and if so, why?

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Re: Get the name of keyword/symbol in clojurescript

2011-10-18 Thread David Nolen
Does the same problem occur when trying this at the REPL (say via
script/repljs) ?

David

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm on the master branch.
>
> I compiled the file using 'cljsc file > file.js', and run it in the
> browser.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:16 AM, David Nolen wrote:
>
>> Are you using ClojureScript HEAD? If you are and you are still seeing this
>> under what conditions (advanced mode, browser REPL, etc.) ?
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
>> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As I understand it, clojurescript uses some unicode characters to
>>> identify keywords/symbols.
>>> I guess that's why (str 'a) gives me ï·‘'a
>>> I thought that this was intentional, and that (name 'a) would give me
>>> "a", but I got the same result as with (str).
>>>
>>> So how do I extract the name from a symbol or keyword in clojurescript?
>>> Also, is this behavior intentional, and if so, why?
>>>
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Re: Is there a reader setting support BigDecimal by default?

2011-10-18 Thread Scott Hickey
I'm looking to avoid qualifying every number that has a decimal point with 
an M. For the "business" applications I've built over the last 25 years 
(credit card processing, healthcare claims, loans,etc.), there's never been 
a situation where inexact numbers were appropriate. 

That's why I was hoping for a global default for reading decimal numbers as 
BigDecimal instead of IEEE floats or doubles.

Scott Hickey

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Re: clojure.string no namespace error

2011-10-18 Thread Philipp Meier
If you do a 

(require 'clojure.string) 

then all vars will be accessible as clojure.string/... 
e.g.clojure.string/split-lines
.

You can use "use" to import the vars into the current namespane:

(use 'clojure.string)

This wil make available all vars from clojure.string in you current 
namespace (e.g. user). 

The later syntax is for use within the macro "ns" to declare a namespace, 
e.g.

(ns user (:require [clojure.string :as str]))

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clojure.string no namespace error

2011-10-18 Thread Omer Kudat
Hi all,

I've started to teach myself clojure recently, so apologies for a
potentially stupid question.

I'm using clojure-1.3.0.jar, downloaded very recently. I would like to
use clojure.string/split-lines, but I cannot access the namespace.

I've tried:
(import 'clojure.string)
(import 'string)
and
(:require [clojure.string :as str]))

The last one is from the documentation in the string.clj file embedded
in the jar. They all throw either a "java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
clojure.string" or a "java.lang.Exception: No namespace:
clojure.string".

Calling (all-ns) gives me a list of namespaces which does not include
string, and (find-ns) doesn't find clojure.string either.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any pieces of wisdom?
Omer

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Macro not working - newbie question

2011-10-18 Thread Dusan
I just finished my first macro:

(defmacro defrecord-withstr [recordname include columns recordargs]
  (let [ vv (gensym)
stato
(let [cols
  (if include
columns
(vec(seq(clojure.set/difference (set recordargs) (set 
columns)
  ]
  (vec(interleave
   (vec(map #(str ":" %) cols))
   (vec(map #(symbol(str "(str (:" % " " vv "))"))
cols
))
   )))]
`(defrecord ~recordname [~@recordargs]
   Object
   (~(symbol "toString") [~vv]
 (reduce
  #(str %1 " " %2)
  ~stato
  )
 )))
  )

It should override the toString for records so that it prints just the
chosen columns.

If i do the macroexpand:
user> (macroexpand-1 '(defrecord-withstr Test true [a b] [a b c d]))
(clojure.core/defrecord Test [a b c d] java.lang.Object (toString
[G__7830] (clojure.core/reduce (fn* [p1__7524__7526__auto__
p2__7525__7527__auto__] (clojure.core/str p1__7524__7526__auto__ " "
p2__7525__7527__auto__)) [":a" (str (:a G__7830)) ":b" (str (:b
G__7830))])))

When I try to execute that everything works OK:
user> (clojure.core/defrecord Test [a b c d] java.lang.Object
(toString [G__7830] (clojure.core/reduce (fn* [p1__7524__7526__auto__
p2__7525__7527__auto__] (clojure.core/str p1__7524__7526__auto__ " "
p2__7525__7527__auto__)) [":a" (str (:a G__7830)) ":b" (str (:b
G__7830))])))
user.Test
user> (def tt (Test. 1 2 3 4))
#'user/tt
user> tt
#:user.Test{:a 1, :b 2, :c 3, :d 4}
user> (str tt)
":a 1 :b 2"

But when I call this directly, it doesn't work:

user> (defrecord-withstr Test2 true [a b] [a b c d])

Unable to resolve symbol: (str (:a G__7900)) in this context
  [Thrown class java.lang.Exception]

Restarts:
 0: [QUIT] Quit to the SLIME top level

Backtrace:
  0: clojure.lang.Compiler.resolveIn(Compiler.java:5677)
  1: clojure.lang.Compiler.resolve(Compiler.java:5621)
  2: clojure.lang.Compiler.analyzeSymbol(Compiler.java:5584)
  3: clojure.lang.Compiler.analyze(Compiler.java:5172)
  4: clojure.lang.Compiler.analyze(Compiler.java:5151)
  5: clojure.lang.Compiler$VectorExpr.parse(Compiler.java:2591)
  6: clojure.lang.Compiler.analyze(Compiler.java:5192)
  7: clojure.lang.Compiler.analyze(Compiler.java:5151)
  8: clojure.lang.Compiler$InvokeExpr.parse(Compiler.java:3057)
  9: clojure.lang.Compiler.analyzeSeq(Compiler.java:5371)
 10: clojure.lang.Compiler.analyze(Compiler.java:5190)


It must be some namespace issue, but I just don't understand what is
the problem...

Thx
Dusan



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Re: Get the name of keyword/symbol in clojurescript

2011-10-18 Thread Jonathan Fischer Friberg
I'm on the master branch.

I compiled the file using 'cljsc file > file.js', and run it in the browser.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:16 AM, David Nolen  wrote:

> Are you using ClojureScript HEAD? If you are and you are still seeing this
> under what conditions (advanced mode, browser REPL, etc.) ?
>
> David
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg <
> odysso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As I understand it, clojurescript uses some unicode characters to identify
>> keywords/symbols.
>> I guess that's why (str 'a) gives me ï·‘'a
>> I thought that this was intentional, and that (name 'a) would give me "a",
>> but I got the same result as with (str).
>>
>> So how do I extract the name from a symbol or keyword in clojurescript?
>> Also, is this behavior intentional, and if so, why?
>>
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Save your ears - use Overtone 0.5.0

2011-10-18 Thread Sam Aaron
'tis that time again when we jump around in celebration of the new and the 
crazy:

Overtone 0.5.0 is out! Hip-hip-hooray!

So, what's new?

First up we have some fantastic new committers. Please give a warm welcome to:

* Nick Orton
* Kevin Neaton
* Jowl Gluth
* Chris Ford
* Philip Potter

In terms of features, the most exciting, life-saving thing is the integration 
of our new ANTI-EAR-BLEED (™) tech. Yes, that's right - no more 
tintinnabulation of the ear-drum after the triggering of a badly designed synth 
causes your headphones to scream louder than your little sister ever could. All 
sound is now limited and clipped with warning messages sent to stdout when your 
audio goes above a safe threshold. We've also got a bunch of nice fixes, extra 
utility functions and other goodies. The full changelog is here:

https://github.com/overtone/overtone/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

Also, the CheatSheet has been updated for your enjoyment:

http://cloud.github.com/downloads/overtone/overtone/overtone-cheat-sheet.pdf

So what are you waiting for? Go grab a copy and make some crazy sounds from 
your Clojure REPL:

http://github.com/overtone/overtone
http://clojars.org/overtone

Sam

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Re: trouble setting up emacs

2011-10-18 Thread MarisO
run this script in your .emacs.d directory

--
#!/bin/sh

git clone https://github.com/technomancy/clojure-mode.git
wget -P paredit http://mumble.net/~campbell/emacs/paredit.el

wget 
http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/color-theme/color-theme-6.6.0.tar.gz
mkdir color-theme
tar --strip-components=1 --directory=color-theme -xzf color-
theme-6.6.0.tar.gz

rm color-theme-6.6.0.tar.gz
--


init.el

--
(add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/")

;; clojure-mode
(add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/clojure-mode")
(require 'clojure-mode)

(fset 'compile-and-goto-repl "\C-x\C-s\C-c\C-k\C-c\C-z")

(global-set-key (kbd "C-c C-g C-r") 'compile-and-goto-repl)
(global-set-key (kbd "C-c C-j C-i") 'clojure-jack-in)

;; paredit
(add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/paredit")
(require 'paredit)

(add-hook 'clojure-mode-hook 'enable-paredit-mode)

(global-set-key (kbd "M-p M-m e") 'enable-paredit-mode)
(global-set-key (kbd "M-p M-m d") 'disable-paredit-mode)

;; color theme
(add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/color-theme")
(require 'color-theme)

(eval-after-load "color-theme"
  '(progn
 (color-theme-initialize)))

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Start emacs, change current directory (M-x cd) to a leiningen project
root and press C-c C-j C-i.It should start clojure repl.
You will need swank as dev dependency.

:dev-dependencies [[swank-clojure "1.3.1"]
 [midje "1.1.1"]]



hth,
Maris



On Oct 18, 4:32 am, Bruce Gordon  wrote:
> I am trying to follow the directions 
> athttp://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started+with+Emacs.
> 1. I want to install the Emacs Starter Kit. The directions 
> athttp://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started+with+Emacsmention
> "GNU Emacs 23 or 24 is recommended", however  
> https://github.com/technomancy/emacs-starter-kit
> says "You'll need Emacs 24".  The directions say "precompiled versions
> are readily available for Debian-based systems...". I'm using a Debian
> based system. so I went tohttp://emacs.naquadah.org/.
> a. I executed> wget -q -O -http://emacs.naquadah.org/key.gpg| sudo
> apt-key add -
> b. I'm now confused as to which version I want: Stable? If so I should
> then follow the directions to add 2 lines to /etc/apt/sources.list,
> and then what do I do?
>
> 2. Once I get emacs 24 installed, the directions sort of leave off
> with " In both cases, you need to launch a Clojure instance with the
> correct classpath settings. This is most commonly done using a build
> tool such as Leiningen. For instructions see the Build Tools section
> of Getting Started." Going 
> tohttp://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started
> and perusing the Build Tools doesn't explain how to setup and launch a
> Clojure instance. I see some explanations 
> athttp://blog.bensmann.com/setting-up-a-clojure-development-environment
> but don't know if that includes some obsolete directions.
>
> thanks, -Bruce

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