I think learn lisp is important to learn clojure. so ansi common lisp, on lisp ,paip is three book must to read.
2010/5/27 Base <basselh...@gmail.com>: > Hi Paul - > > I am also a newbie, but have been approaching thsi for the other > direction - knowing Java and not knowing Lisp or any other FP > language. > > What I have found is that I really strive to spend most of my time in > Clojure, not Java. Hence I only really use java when I *have* to. > And even then, all I ever do is instantiate a class or 2 and call a > method. > > I do not use swing (java GUI package) and have not (so far) found the > need for much else. I would go online and read an intro tutorial or > two for Java just to familiarize yourself with the basic constructs. > I would also browse the java API at http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api/ > . I think that you will find that you can learn the java you need on > the fly. > > Regarding Clojure I got Stuart Halloway's book Programming Clojure > ( http://pragprog.com/titles/shcloj/programming-clojure ) and it was > fantastic because it gave me a strong intro really quickly. What I > didn't expect is how many times I have fond myself going back to the > book. It has more advanced concepts (at least for me... !) that I > didn't pick up on when I first was starting. This has been a real > bonus for me. > > Also, I spend a *lot* of time on this site and ask a lot of really > dumb questions. Clojure has the best group support by far of any > language I have ever seen. The people on this board are truly > amazingly helpful and patient - even with us newbies :) > > The hardest part for me was getting things configured. It is really > confusing - particularly if you have no background to java. Most of > the users here use emacs for their IDE. If you know emacs you can > certainly try that. There is Clojure in a Box that is a self > contained package If you do not use emacs ( I do not - it is too damn > confusing for me) then i recommend using and IDE that has clojure > support. There is one for Netbeans called Enclojure. I use Eclipse > and a plugin called CounterClockwise. I really like it. > > Stu Halloway has a great starting tutorial with instructions on how to > get up to speed and has a series of tutorials via a web server > (integrated into the app). It is located at: > > http://github.com/relevance/labrepl > > This is where I would start. It has helped me out immensely. > > Cheers > > Base > > > > > On May 27, 6:53 am, Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm new to Clojure, and looking for the best way to get going. I've >> got a pretty broad experience of various programming languages (C, >> Python, Lua, Factor, JavaScript, Haskell, Perl, ...) including a bit >> of experience with Lisp-like languages, so the language itself isn't >> likely to be a huge problem for me. But I've no background with Java >> (beyond a few "toy" programs, and knowing the syntax) so the >> environment (classpaths, compiling, where to find libraries, >> performance, JVMs, etc) is pretty much a mystery to me. >> >> I've browsed a bit online, read some of the wikibook articles, and >> Mark Volkmann's excellent summary, but I'd like to dig a bit deeper >> (as I say, particularly around libraries and environment, less on how >> to program in a lisp-like language). Ideally, in a form that I can >> read offline (printable/PDF documents, or books) as I've got limited >> free time I can spend in front of a computer screen. I've got a sample >> program I have tried porting from Python - the experience was >> interesting, but limited (the core of the relatively complex >> multithreaded database monitoring process converted to 47 lines of >> Clojure...!!!) >> >> Has anybody got any good suggestions as to where I should go next? >> I've considered getting one of the Manning books (The Joy of Clojure >> or Clojure in Action) but I'm not sure which would be better for me - >> they seem broadly similar, with Clojure in Action looking like a >> slightly better fit for my needs, but I'd appreciate any >> comments/recommendations). Also, I wonder whether there's some >> Java-based documentation that would be worth my while investigating. I >> suspect that it'd be very easy to get sucked into a huge amount of >> detail which is only tangentially related at best, but I'm sure an >> overview would help. >> >> Thanks for any suggestions, >> Paul. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. 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