Re: Why is this so difficult?

2013-02-15 Thread MarkH
I too suggest taking a second look at CCW.  I'll never be an Emacs guy and 
current CCW should be an almost seamless setup with Lein.

On Friday, February 15, 2013 8:53:47 AM UTC-6, lpetit wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
> 2013/2/15 BJG145 >: 
> > Jules sums up pretty exactly where I was at...tried CCW, nope, tried 
> light 
>
> Sorry to be a little bit off topic (or am I ?), but as one of the main 
> developers of CCW, I'd like to learn from this "nope". 
>
> Indeed, one of the main goals of CCW is to be beginner friendly so ... 
> what was (were) the problem(s) ? 
>
> > Table, nope, looked at Leiningen, thought: "Edit PATH? What, I haven't 
> done 
> > that since I was on Windows 3.1, and what does this thing do anyway"...I 
> > appreciate the time people have put into all the advice given above 
> because 
> > I can see the subject has probably been done to death already. I'm sure 
> it's 
> > not really that hard, it's just that I've been spoiled by simple 
> friendly 
> > IDEs like Code::Blocks, Visual Studio, Gideros Studio, and I resented 
> > mucking about with Linux-on-Windows and command prompts. But, it's cool, 
> I'm 
> > sure it'll be worth it...;-) 
> > 
> > I do think the Leiningen homepage could do with a revamp...I reckon it's 
> > likely one of the main entry points for beginners and it needs to be 
> > simplified for cosseted Windows users like me. 
> > 
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Re: Recommendation for Clojure Enterprise Development toolkit

2011-07-09 Thread MarkH
As a tech lead or architect you should be fired for even suggesting to
use Clojure as an enterprise greenfield.   Industry and academia is
moving towards advanced type systems.  Nobody in industry seriously
considers Clojure for enterprise systems.

On Jul 8, 12:43 pm, Colin Yates  wrote:
> *This isn't meant to start a flame-war!*
>
> I am pretty convinced that I want to use Clojure as my primary tool
> (in place of Java/Groovy Spring and Hibernate) in writing Enterprise
> applications on the JVM.  By Enterprise I mean that my solution has to
> be very stable, maintainable by others, subject to a number of stake-
> holders and so on.
>
> Part of the attraction of Java is the set of well-established tools
> for certain things:
>
>  - maven/gradle/ant for building
>  - Spring for glue and a gazillion other things (disclaimer: I used to
> work for them as a Consultant)
>  - Hibernate for ORM
>  - JUnit/TestNG
>  - and so on
>
> I am convinced that Clojure offers a different playing field in terms
> of building blocks; due to its power it seems that there isn't the
> need for such heavyweight players, rather rolling your own, or using
> light-weigh libraries seems to possible.
>
> That is excellent news, but I need to start somewhere.
>
> So, what do other enterprise developers use?  There are a gazillion
> libraries out there but where do you start?  For example (religious
> war starts now):
>
>  - cake seems to be a superset of lein but lein seems to be the
> preferred choice - which should a newbie go with
>  - what behaviour driven testing (i.e. BDD) library would you use (for
> integration tests)
>  - which unit testing framework do you use (lazy-test's watch method
> is very appealing)
>  - which CI servers have you integrated Clojure with, and how?
>  - which other high quality libraries can you recommend (akin to
> JodaTime)
>
> Basically, what supporting infrastructure do you guys use to build
> large Clojure apps.
>
> I hope the gist of this request comes through - I, of course, should
> try them all, but if recommendations are always welcome.

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Re: ANN: ClojureQL 1.0.0 finally released as public beta

2010-11-18 Thread MarkH


On Nov 18, 1:10 pm, LauJensen  wrote:
> Hi gents,
>
> For those of you who have followed the development
> of ClojureQL over the past 2.5 years you'll be excited
> to know that ClojureQL is as of today being released
> as 1.0.0 beta1.
>
> That means that the significant primitives from Relational
> Algebra are all in place and functional. The documentation
> is there and I've even made a screencast in order to get
> you guys started.
>
> Personally Im excited about this version because it really
> does change the way you work with a database. Queries
> are incredibly composable!
>
> For more information, please checkout this blogpost +
> screencast:http://bestinclass.dk/index.clj/2010/11/clojureql--1.0.0-now-in-beta
>
> Best regards,
> Lau

Great stuff Lau.  I enjoyed the screencast.

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Re: clojure-clr and mono

2010-10-09 Thread MarkH


On Oct 9, 9:21 am, Sampo Vuori  wrote:
> On Oct 9, 2:53 am, MarkH  wrote:
>
> > Mono 2.8 just came out yesterday.  You don't have to wait for your
> > distro to package it up.  Building official source releases are as
> > easy as ./configure && make && make install. I just did it last night.
>
> Any idea if the clojure-clr works on the mono 2.8?
>

But if I recall correctly, Mono 2.8 did get the open-sourced DLR
integrated in with this release.

http://www.mono-project.com/Release_Notes_Mono_2.8

Give it a shot.



> - Sampo

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Re: clojure-clr and mono

2010-10-09 Thread MarkH


On Oct 9, 9:21 am, Sampo Vuori  wrote:
> On Oct 9, 2:53 am, MarkH  wrote:
>
> > Mono 2.8 just came out yesterday.  You don't have to wait for your
> > distro to package it up.  Building official source releases are as
> > easy as ./configure && make && make install. I just did it last night.
>
> Any idea if the clojure-clr works on the mono 2.8?
>

No idea.  I've never used ClojureCLR.

> - Sampo

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Re: clojure-clr and mono

2010-10-08 Thread MarkH
Mono 2.8 just came out yesterday.  You don't have to wait for your
distro to package it up.  Building official source releases are as
easy as ./configure && make && make install. I just did it last night.

On Oct 8, 7:23 am, Sampo Vuori  wrote:
> Hello,
> I would be very interested in getting clojure-clr to work on mono. To
> me, mono would be a nice platform as it has access to many libraries I
> would like to use (and jvm doesn't) but there is not a single good
> lisp implementation which would work on top of mono! So I would really
> like to get clojure working on it.
>
> Bear with me as I'm not too well versed with the clr/mono/monodevelop
> yet.. I have mono 2.4 installed and monodevelop 2.2.1. I downloaded
> clojure-clr and DLR. The newest DLR from the version control doesn't
> work, since it doesn't have DLR_Main/Runtime/Microsoft.Scripting.Core/
> Microsoft.Scripting.ExtensionAttribute.csproj anymore.. So I
> downloaded the older one. I open the solution file in monodevelop and
> try to compile it.. I get following error messages (among others):
>
> Warning: The reference 'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral,
> PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089' is not valid for the target framework
> of the project. (Microsoft.Scripting)
> Warning: Assembly 'mscorlib, Version=2.0.5.0, Culture=neutral,
> PublicKeyToken=7cec85d7bea7798e' not found. Make sure that the
> assembly exists in disk. If the reference is required to build the
> project you may get compilation errors. (Microsoft.Scripting)
> Warning: Assembly 'System, Version=2.0.5.0, Culture=neutral,
> PublicKeyToken=7cec85d7bea7798e' not found. Make sure that the
> assembly exists in disk. If the reference is required to build the
> project you may get compilation errors. (Microsoft.Scripting)
>
> etc. Anyone know how to get over these? Anyone got further? Is Mono
> 2.4 too old?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Sampo

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Re: Thinking in Clojure

2010-09-03 Thread MarkH
Sean and Peter made comments that ring very true for me.  I've always
had a problem with Java/Smalltalk/C# type OO.  I also thought the
Common Lisp/Dylan way of generic functions and data structures made
more sense.  Like Peter mentioned, I tend to think in terms of verbs
and transformations of data.  It just makes a lot more sense to me.

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Re: New release of the enclojure plugin is up.

2009-04-09 Thread MarkH

Enclojure is shaping up to be a really nice development environment
for Clojure.  Great work Eric.

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Re: Java Posse exposure

2009-03-23 Thread MarkH

Thanks for the article.  I found it very informative.
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Re: alternate syntax

2009-02-23 Thread MarkH

Yes, clojure needs an alternative surface syntax for obvious reasons.
And anybody that brings up Dylan as a counter-example doesn't know
what they're talking about.  Dylan died because Apple killed it.


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