Re: OT: Github Alternatives
Charles Harvey III charlesnhar...@gmail.com writes: You could abandon Git and save yourself a lot of money and pain. Start using Bazaar! http://bzrinit.com/ (http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/) Hosting is seriously you setting up an ftp server (sftp, ssh, scp) - whatever. There is web viewer plugin: https://launchpad.net/loggerhead. it is basically an apache module. Seriously, take a look at Bzr. All the features of Git with much nicer commands and it won't ever lose your history. And hosting it yourself is just so easy. Too bad that even GNU Emacs development is moving (has already moved?) from bzr to git. See , | From: e...@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) | Subject: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move | Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel | To: emacs-de...@gnu.org | Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 04:53:47 -0500 (EST) (25 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour ago) | | I am posting this because I think it is my duty as a topic expert in | version-control systems and the surrounding tools to do so, not because | I have any desire to be in the argument that is certain to ensue. | | The bzr version control system is dying; by most measures it is | already moribund. [...] ` and the following long thread on gmane.emacs.devel. -- cheers, Thorsten -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What's clojure killer app? I don't see any.
Paulo Suzart paulosuz...@gmail.com writes: Sorry guys, I've been posting about Clojure since 2009, and still can't see it becoming the main technology even being the CTO of the company. What is the killer app for you? Or how do you think we can make clojure supporting apps like Facebook or something big like that? Being on the list a few days only I can tell you the 'killer-use-case' a complete newbie was looking for: clojure for android. Clojure apps that run as smooth as java apps but are (by the very nature of clojure) much more convenient to write would probably open up some doors in the enterprise world. I've seen real Scala for Android jobs already, hopefully there will be Clojure for Android jobs in the future too. -- cheers, Thorsten -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Code snippets to attract new users
kurofune jesseluisd...@gmail.com writes: Hello everyone! A Java programmer recently mentioned to me that if the Clojure community wants to appeal to industry programmers that they would need to provide example code comparisons, which clearly show why it is good to choose Clojure over another language. The same person gave me the following link with Java snippets that have proved useful for learners, something like a mini-cookbook: http://viralpatel.net/blogs/20-useful-java-code-snippets-for-java-developers/ When I google Java Clojure code comparisons, nothing simple or straightforward like this comes up, so I want to translate these snippets into their Clojure equivalents and place them side by side with the Java, for comparison. I hope it will also provide a resource for Clojure programmers who want to get a better feel for Java and gain a more intuitive grasp of what goes on during interop. I'd like to cloud the task out to anyone interested in picking one snippet and posting it here. I'll then collect them, clean them up, post them and provide a link to either a blog post or github gists page. Does this appeal to anyone? If not, what succinct piece of media would you suggest for wowing the pants off a Clojure skeptic? I think you should have a look at ,- | http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code `- there are solutions from hundreds of programming languages for hundreds of problems to be compared - and to be reused as useful snippets. I actually created a massive book out of this huge knowlegde base for my favorite lisp of all, PicoLisp (http://picolisp.com/wiki/?home): , | http://www.scribd.com/doc/103733857/PicoLisp-by-Example ` its and open source project, so you could very well take my LaTeX sources and create a similar 'by-example' book for Clojure (https://github.com/tj64/picolisp-by-example). But you would need to consider two important questions: 1. Copyright Quality I was in the unique situation that more than 600 Rosettacode solutions had been written by one single person - PicoLisp creator Alexander Burger himself. So I could be sure they are canonical high quality solutions, and I could (almost) solve the copyright issue by making Alexander Burger the principle author of the book with me as co-author. 'Almost', because not only the solutions have copyrights, but the problems too. I had to do quite a lot of extra work to make the authors of the Rosettacode problems happy. So be very careful (!!), this copyright issue isn't really fun at all, even when you produce a free open source book. 2. Does it help the language? I created two free books about PicoLisp, the aforementioned 'PicoLisp by Example' and 'PicoLisp Works' ,- | (http://www.scribd.com/doc/103732688/PicoLisp-Works) `- a compilation of almost all docs ever written about the language. I find them very useful myself as language reference, and it seems they are quite popular with people who like to discover this unknown but fascinating pure and powerful lisp dialect. But OTOH - everybody can see now how short and succint PicoLisp programs are, that libraries are often not needed because PicoLisp core functions are so powerful, how complete the PicoLisp application framework is for database and web-development - besides its extremely small footprint. And they could see how easy it is to install PicoLisp and how very fast it runs (the fasted interpreter of all?) when they actually try out the examples. So one would expect a kind of PicoLisp hype triggered by the language's suberb performance in the Rosettacode competition, but that did not happen (yet) - unfortunately. -- cheers, Thorsten -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Emacs - error with `nrepl-jack-in'
Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes: Hi List, just installed lein2 and can start 'lein2 repl' successfully on the command-line. 'lein repl' works too, since I defined an alias in my .bashrc. After installing packages clojure-mode and nrepl in Emacs, I get this error when trying `nrepl-jack-in': ,- | error in process sentinel: Could not start nREPL server: /bin/bash: Line | 1: lein: Command not found. `- I'm on Archlinx with #+begin_src emacs-lisp (emacs-version) #+end_src #+results: : GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.7) : of 2014-01-28 on var-lib-archbuild-extra-x86_64-juergen I googled some related sites and it seems it might be an Emacs (exec-) path problem, but a reboot did not help. I just learned that CIDER is the current Emacs IDE for clojure and that my setup described above is outdated, so this problem can be considered as solved. -- cheers, Thorsten -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Emacs - error with `nrepl-jack-in'
Erlis Vidal er...@erlisvidal.com writes: Do not add an alias for lein, rename lein2 to just lein. Ok, done, thx. -- cheers, Thorsten -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Code snippets to attract new users
kurofune jesseluisd...@gmail.com writes: Pico-Lisp looks pretty cool, and that massive book of yours is nuts. It seems like there is an example for everything in there! About the poor reception in spite of Rosetta-Code success, I can only say that predicting human behavior on the assumption that their decisions are rational, is unlikely to ever succeed. We are socially minded, always looking for what's popular :) PicoLisp is really cool (except when it comes to jobs, projects, money and stuff like that). Clojure is cool too and hopefully more promising for that kind of stuff ... ;-) Those software hypes and desillusions are a fascinating topic by itself, its kind of hard to explain why some languages that appear like a chaotic free jazz improvisation with only temporal value have a huge success while others that appear like a perfectly structured bach fugues written for eternity are simply ignored by the masses. -- cheers, Thorsten -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Emacs - error with `nrepl-jack-in'
Erlis Vidal er...@erlisvidal.com writes: Also clojure for the brave and true will guide you through the configuration process really straight forward. http://www.braveclojure.com/using-emacs-with-clojure/ Hi Greg and Erlis, just learned about the cool CIDER, thanks for your tips! On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:37 AM, greg r soapy-sm...@comcast.net wrote: You should consider going to CIDER: https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider The command is 'cider-jack-in'. Here's a page with a lot of install info: http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/emacs.html There are many web pages out there with obsolete information on Clojure and emacs. The above page is one of the most up-to-date. Regards, Greg On Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:45:13 PM UTC-4, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: Hi List, just installed lein2 and can start 'lein2 repl' successfully on the command-line. 'lein repl' works too, since I defined an alias in my .bashrc. After installing packages clojure-mode and nrepl in Emacs, I get this error when trying `nrepl-jack-in': ,-- --- | error in process sentinel: Could not start nREPL server: /bin/bash: Line | 1: lein: Command not found. `-- --- I'm on Archlinx with #+begin_src emacs-lisp (emacs-version) #+end_src #+results: : GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.7) : of 2014-01-28 on var-lib-archbuild-extra-x86_64-juergen I googled some related sites and it seems it might be an Emacs (exec-) path problem, but a reboot did not help. -- cheers, Thorsten -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- cheers, Thorsten -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Emacs - error with `nrepl-jack-in'
Hi List, just installed lein2 and can start 'lein2 repl' successfully on the command-line. 'lein repl' works too, since I defined an alias in my .bashrc. After installing packages clojure-mode and nrepl in Emacs, I get this error when trying `nrepl-jack-in': ,- | error in process sentinel: Could not start nREPL server: /bin/bash: Line | 1: lein: Command not found. `- I'm on Archlinx with #+begin_src emacs-lisp (emacs-version) #+end_src #+results: : GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.7) : of 2014-01-28 on var-lib-archbuild-extra-x86_64-juergen I googled some related sites and it seems it might be an Emacs (exec-) path problem, but a reboot did not help. -- cheers, Thorsten -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.