Re: [clj-power] Improving visibility of clojure-doc.org

2013-02-27 Thread Daniel Glauser
I added a link to http://clojure-doc.org in both the group discussion and 
the about page for the Den of Clojure 
(http://www.meetup.com/denofclojure/). Sean (or anyone else for that 
matter) is there an easy way we can let the rest of the user group to lend 
a hand? Is there a better place to post the link on the meetup site?

Daniel

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:55:09 PM UTC-7, Alex Miller wrote:
>
> I've updated http://clojure.org/documentation to add a link to 
> http://clojure-doc.org. I think it's a great resource for all Clojure 
> developers!! 
>
> I think it would be useful in your regular updates to highlight areas that 
> could use help. Another area that I think would be useful in addition to 
> the current docs are smallish examples of full projects that highlight how 
> to put the existing pieces together into a (small) real project.
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Michael Klishin 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Started in October 2012, http://clojure-doc.org is a pretty extensive
>> community documentation effort. It covers Clojure, its ecosystem
>> and tools and has two key goals:
>>
>>  * We produce beginner-friendly content
>>  * It is dead easy to join and help
>>
>> Even though recently that hasn't been
>> as much activity as in the past, it is not abandoned and continues
>> to accumulate useful, beginner-friendly material.
>>
>> We constantly get praises from newcomers to Clojure who discover
>> clojure-doc.org. Unfortunately, it does not appear even in top 10
>> in Google for "clojure docs" or "clojure documentation" and
>> many community members are not aware of it.
>>
>> In part it is less visible because we no longer actively post
>> progress reports. Things have settled down and most of changes
>> now are small edits and improvements all over the place. It is
>> a bit pointless to post progress reports more often than
>> once a month or so.
>>
>> So I'd like to start a discussion about what can be done about it.
>> The community (we have 40 contributors) has worked very hard
>> on clojure-doc.org and I'd like to see high profile resources
>> (namly clojure.org and leiningen.org) link to it. What would
>> it take to convince clojure.org maintainers to do so?
>>
>> There are still guides left ot be written (macros, gen-class),
>> but overall, I'd say there is no better source of freely available,
>> beginner-friendly, hackable (no Clojure CA, everything is developed
>> on GitHub [1], content is in Markdown) documentation. All it needs
>> is some linking and promotion love.
>>
>> One way to help would be to start a campaign such as Mozilla's
>> Promote JS [docs]. Unfortunately, unlike Mozilla key contributors
>> behind clojure-doc.org largely lack graphic and Web design skills,
>> so replicating that campaing is probably not an option.
>>
>> Do you have any ideas about how we can make clojure-doc.org more
>> visible? Do you know who can help with getting a link from clojure.org?
>> Do you think clojure-doc.org is not good enough to be the "blessed"
>> open source documentation resource? Please post your suggestions
>> and concerns.
>>
>> Improving CDS visibility will benefit the entire community plus all the 
>> people who will join it in the future. Most of the work is already done,
>> it just needs to be promoted better.
>>
>> Thanks you.
>>
>>
>> 1. https://github.com/clojuredocs/cds
>>  
>> -- 
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>>
>> http://github.com/michaelklishin
>> http://twitter.com/michaelklishin
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Re: [clj-power] Improving visibility of clojure-doc.org

2013-02-27 Thread Alex Miller
I've updated http://clojure.org/documentation to add a link to
http://clojure-doc.org. I think it's a great resource for all Clojure
developers!!

I think it would be useful in your regular updates to highlight areas that
could use help. Another area that I think would be useful in addition to
the current docs are smallish examples of full projects that highlight how
to put the existing pieces together into a (small) real project.

Alex


On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Michael Klishin <
michael.s.klis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Started in October 2012, http://clojure-doc.org is a pretty extensive
> community documentation effort. It covers Clojure, its ecosystem
> and tools and has two key goals:
>
>  * We produce beginner-friendly content
>  * It is dead easy to join and help
>
> Even though recently that hasn't been
> as much activity as in the past, it is not abandoned and continues
> to accumulate useful, beginner-friendly material.
>
> We constantly get praises from newcomers to Clojure who discover
> clojure-doc.org. Unfortunately, it does not appear even in top 10
> in Google for "clojure docs" or "clojure documentation" and
> many community members are not aware of it.
>
> In part it is less visible because we no longer actively post
> progress reports. Things have settled down and most of changes
> now are small edits and improvements all over the place. It is
> a bit pointless to post progress reports more often than
> once a month or so.
>
> So I'd like to start a discussion about what can be done about it.
> The community (we have 40 contributors) has worked very hard
> on clojure-doc.org and I'd like to see high profile resources
> (namly clojure.org and leiningen.org) link to it. What would
> it take to convince clojure.org maintainers to do so?
>
> There are still guides left ot be written (macros, gen-class),
> but overall, I'd say there is no better source of freely available,
> beginner-friendly, hackable (no Clojure CA, everything is developed
> on GitHub [1], content is in Markdown) documentation. All it needs
> is some linking and promotion love.
>
> One way to help would be to start a campaign such as Mozilla's
> Promote JS [docs]. Unfortunately, unlike Mozilla key contributors
> behind clojure-doc.org largely lack graphic and Web design skills,
> so replicating that campaing is probably not an option.
>
> Do you have any ideas about how we can make clojure-doc.org more
> visible? Do you know who can help with getting a link from clojure.org?
> Do you think clojure-doc.org is not good enough to be the "blessed"
> open source documentation resource? Please post your suggestions
> and concerns.
>
> Improving CDS visibility will benefit the entire community plus all the
> people who will join it in the future. Most of the work is already done,
> it just needs to be promoted better.
>
> Thanks you.
>
>
> 1. https://github.com/clojuredocs/cds
>
> --
> MK
>
> http://github.com/michaelklishin
> http://twitter.com/michaelklishin
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Re: [clj-power] Improving visibility of clojure-doc.org

2013-02-27 Thread Sean Corfield
FWIW, I've added a permanent link to clojure-doc.org from my blog with
the link text Clojure Documentation - perhaps others who have blogs
could do the same?

I was looking at meetup.com to see if I could easily find a way to add
resources / links to a group's home page, thinking it would be a good
link to have there (Bay Area Clojure User Group). Anyone know enough
about meetup.com to point me in the right direction there?

Sean

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Michael Klishin
 wrote:
> Started in October 2012, http://clojure-doc.org is a pretty extensive
> community documentation effort. It covers Clojure, its ecosystem
> and tools and has two key goals:
>
>  * We produce beginner-friendly content
>  * It is dead easy to join and help
>
> Even though recently that hasn't been
> as much activity as in the past, it is not abandoned and continues
> to accumulate useful, beginner-friendly material.
>
> We constantly get praises from newcomers to Clojure who discover
> clojure-doc.org. Unfortunately, it does not appear even in top 10
> in Google for "clojure docs" or "clojure documentation" and
> many community members are not aware of it.
>
> In part it is less visible because we no longer actively post
> progress reports. Things have settled down and most of changes
> now are small edits and improvements all over the place. It is
> a bit pointless to post progress reports more often than
> once a month or so.
>
> So I'd like to start a discussion about what can be done about it.
> The community (we have 40 contributors) has worked very hard
> on clojure-doc.org and I'd like to see high profile resources
> (namly clojure.org and leiningen.org) link to it. What would
> it take to convince clojure.org maintainers to do so?
>
> There are still guides left ot be written (macros, gen-class),
> but overall, I'd say there is no better source of freely available,
> beginner-friendly, hackable (no Clojure CA, everything is developed
> on GitHub [1], content is in Markdown) documentation. All it needs
> is some linking and promotion love.
>
> One way to help would be to start a campaign such as Mozilla's
> Promote JS [docs]. Unfortunately, unlike Mozilla key contributors
> behind clojure-doc.org largely lack graphic and Web design skills,
> so replicating that campaing is probably not an option.
>
> Do you have any ideas about how we can make clojure-doc.org more
> visible? Do you know who can help with getting a link from clojure.org?
> Do you think clojure-doc.org is not good enough to be the "blessed"
> open source documentation resource? Please post your suggestions
> and concerns.
>
> Improving CDS visibility will benefit the entire community plus all the
> people who will join it in the future. Most of the work is already done,
> it just needs to be promoted better.
>
> Thanks you.
>
>
> 1. https://github.com/clojuredocs/cds
>
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> MK
>
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> http://twitter.com/michaelklishin
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