Re: A few String functions we could implement in Clojure?
I recently raised a similar point regarding `starts-with?` and `ends-with?` (link - http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-1449) and it seems that Clojure's team acknowledges that this is valid reasoning. I think you should open a ticket as well as the case you present is pretty much the same. With ClojureScript and cljx it makes much more sense now to create portable interfaces that it used to before (in the era of Java-only Clojure). On Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:56:44 PM UTC+3, Pierre Masci wrote: Thank you for your insight Andy :-) Interesting question Bruce. -- Pierre Masci On 19 July 2014 16:49, Andy Fingerhut andy.fi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I would have to defer that question to someone who makes decisions regarding what goes into Clojure/ClojureScript, and what does not. Of course, anyone else is free to create libraries that try to make portability between those two platforms easier. Perhaps someone has already taken a go at creating such a thing? I haven't used ClojureScript myself yet, so haven't looked for anything in that area. Andy On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Bruce Durling b...@otfrom.com javascript: wrote: Andy, How much of this reasoning do you think changes when we starting thinking about being hosted on multiple platforms (I'm thinking specifically clojure/clojurescript and cljx)? cheers, Bruce On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Andy Fingerhut andy.fi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Pierre: I maintain the cheatsheet, and I put .indexOf and .lastIndexOf on there since they are probably the most common thing I saw asked about that is in the Java API but not the Clojure API, for strings. There are also links to whole Java classes and their entire API, e.g. for file I/O, for which there is no Clojure equivalent, since file I/O is a common need. Clojure is meant to be a hosted language, not hiding its host platform, but making it easily callable. If there are entire Java classes that meet very common needs that aren't mentioned on the cheatsheet, I would consider adding links to their documentation pages. I don't want to fill up the cheatsheet with many individual Java methods, though. As for why there are not Clojure equivalents of particular Java API methods, I think the reasoning might be similar (it has likely been discussed publicly, but I don't have a link handy) -- don't create a large number of Clojure functions that do nothing more than what the equivalent Java APIs do. Andy On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Pierre Masci mas...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hi all, just nit picking about Clojure's String API. I've been comparing it with Java's, and I noticed that (not surprisingly) they are very similar. There are just 2-3 functions that exist in Java but don't have an equivalent in Clojure. I was wondering if they could be worth adding to clojure.string : (.indexOf s c) and (.lastIndexOf c) (.startsWith s danc) and (.endsWith s ing) (.charAt s 5) same as (get s 5) but expresses a clearer intent. It's less general than (get) though as it only applies to Strings, so that might be unnecessary sugar. .indexOf and .lastIndexOf are indicated in the Clojure Cheatsheet, maybe .startsWith and .endsWith also deserve to be mentioned there? I've been wondering why some functions have been ported, like (lower-case) for (.toLowerCase), but not the ones mentioned above. I told you it was nit picking (^c^) Clojure's API is awesome as it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
Re: A few String functions we could implement in Clojure?
I have voted your issue up, and added a comment. Thanks for the link :-) -- Pierre Masci On 1 August 2014 11:16, Bozhidar Batsov bozhidar.bat...@gmail.com wrote: I recently raised a similar point regarding `starts-with?` and `ends-with?` (link - http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-1449) and it seems that Clojure's team acknowledges that this is valid reasoning. I think you should open a ticket as well as the case you present is pretty much the same. With ClojureScript and cljx it makes much more sense now to create portable interfaces that it used to before (in the era of Java-only Clojure). On Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:56:44 PM UTC+3, Pierre Masci wrote: Thank you for your insight Andy :-) Interesting question Bruce. -- Pierre Masci On 19 July 2014 16:49, Andy Fingerhut andy.fi...@gmail.com wrote: I would have to defer that question to someone who makes decisions regarding what goes into Clojure/ClojureScript, and what does not. Of course, anyone else is free to create libraries that try to make portability between those two platforms easier. Perhaps someone has already taken a go at creating such a thing? I haven't used ClojureScript myself yet, so haven't looked for anything in that area. Andy On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Bruce Durling b...@otfrom.com wrote: Andy, How much of this reasoning do you think changes when we starting thinking about being hosted on multiple platforms (I'm thinking specifically clojure/clojurescript and cljx)? cheers, Bruce On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Andy Fingerhut andy.fi...@gmail.com wrote: Pierre: I maintain the cheatsheet, and I put .indexOf and .lastIndexOf on there since they are probably the most common thing I saw asked about that is in the Java API but not the Clojure API, for strings. There are also links to whole Java classes and their entire API, e.g. for file I/O, for which there is no Clojure equivalent, since file I/O is a common need. Clojure is meant to be a hosted language, not hiding its host platform, but making it easily callable. If there are entire Java classes that meet very common needs that aren't mentioned on the cheatsheet, I would consider adding links to their documentation pages. I don't want to fill up the cheatsheet with many individual Java methods, though. As for why there are not Clojure equivalents of particular Java API methods, I think the reasoning might be similar (it has likely been discussed publicly, but I don't have a link handy) -- don't create a large number of Clojure functions that do nothing more than what the equivalent Java APIs do. Andy On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Pierre Masci mas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, just nit picking about Clojure's String API. I've been comparing it with Java's, and I noticed that (not surprisingly) they are very similar. There are just 2-3 functions that exist in Java but don't have an equivalent in Clojure. I was wondering if they could be worth adding to clojure.string : (.indexOf s c) and (.lastIndexOf c) (.startsWith s danc) and (.endsWith s ing) (.charAt s 5) same as (get s 5) but expresses a clearer intent. It's less general than (get) though as it only applies to Strings, so that might be unnecessary sugar. .indexOf and .lastIndexOf are indicated in the Clojure Cheatsheet, maybe .startsWith and .endsWith also deserve to be mentioned there? I've been wondering why some functions have been ported, like (lower-case) for (.toLowerCase), but not the ones mentioned above. I told you it was nit picking (^c^) Clojure's API is awesome as it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and
Re: A few String functions we could implement in Clojure?
I recently hit exactly this question in a ClojureScript app I’m writing. It just so happens that Javascript provides a .indexOf method which is, as near as dammit, the same as the one provided by Java. So in this instance, portability isn’t an issue. But having said that, I would still prefer to see this supported natively in Clojure, even if it’s just a wrapper around the interop. Using interop to do things that are as generic as simple string manipulation just feels messy. -- paul.butcher-msgCount++ Silverstone, Brands Hatch, Donington Park... Who says I have a one track mind? http://www.paulbutcher.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulbutcher Skype: paulrabutcher Author of Seven Concurrency Models in Seven Weeks: When Threads Unravel http://pragprog.com/book/pb7con On 19 July 2014 at 16:49:33, Andy Fingerhut (andy.finger...@gmail.com) wrote: I would have to defer that question to someone who makes decisions regarding what goes into Clojure/ClojureScript, and what does not. Of course, anyone else is free to create libraries that try to make portability between those two platforms easier. Perhaps someone has already taken a go at creating such a thing? I haven't used ClojureScript myself yet, so haven't looked for anything in that area. Andy On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Bruce Durling b...@otfrom.com wrote: Andy, How much of this reasoning do you think changes when we starting thinking about being hosted on multiple platforms (I'm thinking specifically clojure/clojurescript and cljx)? cheers, Bruce On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Andy Fingerhut andy.finger...@gmail.com wrote: Pierre: I maintain the cheatsheet, and I put .indexOf and .lastIndexOf on there since they are probably the most common thing I saw asked about that is in the Java API but not the Clojure API, for strings. There are also links to whole Java classes and their entire API, e.g. for file I/O, for which there is no Clojure equivalent, since file I/O is a common need. Clojure is meant to be a hosted language, not hiding its host platform, but making it easily callable. If there are entire Java classes that meet very common needs that aren't mentioned on the cheatsheet, I would consider adding links to their documentation pages. I don't want to fill up the cheatsheet with many individual Java methods, though. As for why there are not Clojure equivalents of particular Java API methods, I think the reasoning might be similar (it has likely been discussed publicly, but I don't have a link handy) -- don't create a large number of Clojure functions that do nothing more than what the equivalent Java APIs do. Andy On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Pierre Masci mas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, just nit picking about Clojure's String API. I've been comparing it with Java's, and I noticed that (not surprisingly) they are very similar. There are just 2-3 functions that exist in Java but don't have an equivalent in Clojure. I was wondering if they could be worth adding to clojure.string : (.indexOf s c) and (.lastIndexOf c) (.startsWith s danc) and (.endsWith s ing) (.charAt s 5) same as (get s 5) but expresses a clearer intent. It's less general than (get) though as it only applies to Strings, so that might be unnecessary sugar. .indexOf and .lastIndexOf are indicated in the Clojure Cheatsheet, maybe .startsWith and .endsWith also deserve to be mentioned there? I've been wondering why some functions have been ported, like (lower-case) for (.toLowerCase), but not the ones mentioned above. I told you it was nit picking (^c^) Clojure's API is awesome as it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
A few String functions we could implement in Clojure?
Hi all, just nit picking about Clojure's String API. I've been comparing it with Java's http://www.tutorialspoint.com/java/java_strings.htm, and I noticed that (not surprisingly) they are very similar. There are just 2-3 functions that exist in Java but don't have an equivalent in Clojure. I was wondering if they could be worth adding to clojure.string : (.indexOf s c) and (.lastIndexOf c) (.startsWith s danc) and (.endsWith s ing) (.charAt s 5) same as (get s 5) but expresses a clearer intent. It's less general than (get) though as it only applies to Strings, so that might be unnecessary sugar. .indexOf and .lastIndexOf are indicated in the Clojure Cheatsheet http://clojure.org/cheatsheet, maybe .startsWith and .endsWith also deserve to be mentioned there? I've been wondering why some functions have been ported, like (lower-case) for (.toLowerCase), but not the ones mentioned above. I told you it was nit picking (^c^) Clojure's API is awesome as it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A few String functions we could implement in Clojure?
Pierre: I maintain the cheatsheet, and I put .indexOf and .lastIndexOf on there since they are probably the most common thing I saw asked about that is in the Java API but not the Clojure API, for strings. There are also links to whole Java classes and their entire API, e.g. for file I/O, for which there is no Clojure equivalent, since file I/O is a common need. Clojure is meant to be a hosted language, not hiding its host platform, but making it easily callable. If there are entire Java classes that meet very common needs that aren't mentioned on the cheatsheet, I would consider adding links to their documentation pages. I don't want to fill up the cheatsheet with many individual Java methods, though. As for why there are not Clojure equivalents of particular Java API methods, I think the reasoning might be similar (it has likely been discussed publicly, but I don't have a link handy) -- don't create a large number of Clojure functions that do nothing more than what the equivalent Java APIs do. Andy On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Pierre Masci mas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, just nit picking about Clojure's String API. I've been comparing it with Java's http://www.tutorialspoint.com/java/java_strings.htm, and I noticed that (not surprisingly) they are very similar. There are just 2-3 functions that exist in Java but don't have an equivalent in Clojure. I was wondering if they could be worth adding to clojure.string : (.indexOf s c) and (.lastIndexOf c) (.startsWith s danc) and (.endsWith s ing) (.charAt s 5) same as (get s 5) but expresses a clearer intent. It's less general than (get) though as it only applies to Strings, so that might be unnecessary sugar. .indexOf and .lastIndexOf are indicated in the Clojure Cheatsheet http://clojure.org/cheatsheet, maybe .startsWith and .endsWith also deserve to be mentioned there? I've been wondering why some functions have been ported, like (lower-case) for (.toLowerCase), but not the ones mentioned above. I told you it was nit picking (^c^) Clojure's API is awesome as it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A few String functions we could implement in Clojure?
Andy, How much of this reasoning do you think changes when we starting thinking about being hosted on multiple platforms (I'm thinking specifically clojure/clojurescript and cljx)? cheers, Bruce On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Andy Fingerhut andy.finger...@gmail.com wrote: Pierre: I maintain the cheatsheet, and I put .indexOf and .lastIndexOf on there since they are probably the most common thing I saw asked about that is in the Java API but not the Clojure API, for strings. There are also links to whole Java classes and their entire API, e.g. for file I/O, for which there is no Clojure equivalent, since file I/O is a common need. Clojure is meant to be a hosted language, not hiding its host platform, but making it easily callable. If there are entire Java classes that meet very common needs that aren't mentioned on the cheatsheet, I would consider adding links to their documentation pages. I don't want to fill up the cheatsheet with many individual Java methods, though. As for why there are not Clojure equivalents of particular Java API methods, I think the reasoning might be similar (it has likely been discussed publicly, but I don't have a link handy) -- don't create a large number of Clojure functions that do nothing more than what the equivalent Java APIs do. Andy On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Pierre Masci mas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, just nit picking about Clojure's String API. I've been comparing it with Java's, and I noticed that (not surprisingly) they are very similar. There are just 2-3 functions that exist in Java but don't have an equivalent in Clojure. I was wondering if they could be worth adding to clojure.string : (.indexOf s c) and (.lastIndexOf c) (.startsWith s danc) and (.endsWith s ing) (.charAt s 5) same as (get s 5) but expresses a clearer intent. It's less general than (get) though as it only applies to Strings, so that might be unnecessary sugar. .indexOf and .lastIndexOf are indicated in the Clojure Cheatsheet, maybe .startsWith and .endsWith also deserve to be mentioned there? I've been wondering why some functions have been ported, like (lower-case) for (.toLowerCase), but not the ones mentioned above. I told you it was nit picking (^c^) Clojure's API is awesome as it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- @otfrom | CTO co-founder @MastodonC | mastodonc.com See recent coverage of us in the Economist http://econ.st/WeTd2i and the Financial Times http://on.ft.com/T154BA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A few String functions we could implement in Clojure?
I would have to defer that question to someone who makes decisions regarding what goes into Clojure/ClojureScript, and what does not. Of course, anyone else is free to create libraries that try to make portability between those two platforms easier. Perhaps someone has already taken a go at creating such a thing? I haven't used ClojureScript myself yet, so haven't looked for anything in that area. Andy On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Bruce Durling b...@otfrom.com wrote: Andy, How much of this reasoning do you think changes when we starting thinking about being hosted on multiple platforms (I'm thinking specifically clojure/clojurescript and cljx)? cheers, Bruce On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Andy Fingerhut andy.finger...@gmail.com wrote: Pierre: I maintain the cheatsheet, and I put .indexOf and .lastIndexOf on there since they are probably the most common thing I saw asked about that is in the Java API but not the Clojure API, for strings. There are also links to whole Java classes and their entire API, e.g. for file I/O, for which there is no Clojure equivalent, since file I/O is a common need. Clojure is meant to be a hosted language, not hiding its host platform, but making it easily callable. If there are entire Java classes that meet very common needs that aren't mentioned on the cheatsheet, I would consider adding links to their documentation pages. I don't want to fill up the cheatsheet with many individual Java methods, though. As for why there are not Clojure equivalents of particular Java API methods, I think the reasoning might be similar (it has likely been discussed publicly, but I don't have a link handy) -- don't create a large number of Clojure functions that do nothing more than what the equivalent Java APIs do. Andy On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Pierre Masci mas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, just nit picking about Clojure's String API. I've been comparing it with Java's, and I noticed that (not surprisingly) they are very similar. There are just 2-3 functions that exist in Java but don't have an equivalent in Clojure. I was wondering if they could be worth adding to clojure.string : (.indexOf s c) and (.lastIndexOf c) (.startsWith s danc) and (.endsWith s ing) (.charAt s 5) same as (get s 5) but expresses a clearer intent. It's less general than (get) though as it only applies to Strings, so that might be unnecessary sugar. .indexOf and .lastIndexOf are indicated in the Clojure Cheatsheet, maybe .startsWith and .endsWith also deserve to be mentioned there? I've been wondering why some functions have been ported, like (lower-case) for (.toLowerCase), but not the ones mentioned above. I told you it was nit picking (^c^) Clojure's API is awesome as it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- @otfrom | CTO co-founder @MastodonC | mastodonc.com See recent coverage of us in the Economist http://econ.st/WeTd2i and the Financial Times http://on.ft.com/T154BA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure
Re: A few String functions we could implement in Clojure?
Thank you for your insight Andy :-) Interesting question Bruce. -- Pierre Masci On 19 July 2014 16:49, Andy Fingerhut andy.finger...@gmail.com wrote: I would have to defer that question to someone who makes decisions regarding what goes into Clojure/ClojureScript, and what does not. Of course, anyone else is free to create libraries that try to make portability between those two platforms easier. Perhaps someone has already taken a go at creating such a thing? I haven't used ClojureScript myself yet, so haven't looked for anything in that area. Andy On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Bruce Durling b...@otfrom.com wrote: Andy, How much of this reasoning do you think changes when we starting thinking about being hosted on multiple platforms (I'm thinking specifically clojure/clojurescript and cljx)? cheers, Bruce On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Andy Fingerhut andy.finger...@gmail.com wrote: Pierre: I maintain the cheatsheet, and I put .indexOf and .lastIndexOf on there since they are probably the most common thing I saw asked about that is in the Java API but not the Clojure API, for strings. There are also links to whole Java classes and their entire API, e.g. for file I/O, for which there is no Clojure equivalent, since file I/O is a common need. Clojure is meant to be a hosted language, not hiding its host platform, but making it easily callable. If there are entire Java classes that meet very common needs that aren't mentioned on the cheatsheet, I would consider adding links to their documentation pages. I don't want to fill up the cheatsheet with many individual Java methods, though. As for why there are not Clojure equivalents of particular Java API methods, I think the reasoning might be similar (it has likely been discussed publicly, but I don't have a link handy) -- don't create a large number of Clojure functions that do nothing more than what the equivalent Java APIs do. Andy On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Pierre Masci mas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, just nit picking about Clojure's String API. I've been comparing it with Java's, and I noticed that (not surprisingly) they are very similar. There are just 2-3 functions that exist in Java but don't have an equivalent in Clojure. I was wondering if they could be worth adding to clojure.string : (.indexOf s c) and (.lastIndexOf c) (.startsWith s danc) and (.endsWith s ing) (.charAt s 5) same as (get s 5) but expresses a clearer intent. It's less general than (get) though as it only applies to Strings, so that might be unnecessary sugar. .indexOf and .lastIndexOf are indicated in the Clojure Cheatsheet, maybe .startsWith and .endsWith also deserve to be mentioned there? I've been wondering why some functions have been ported, like (lower-case) for (.toLowerCase), but not the ones mentioned above. I told you it was nit picking (^c^) Clojure's API is awesome as it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- @otfrom | CTO co-founder @MastodonC | mastodonc.com See recent coverage of us in the Economist http://econ.st/WeTd2i and the Financial Times http://on.ft.com/T154BA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more
