Re: [ldnclj] Clojure & Java 8 Compact Profiles

2014-05-11 Thread Bruce Durling
Ben,

We've done a few hack days on Incanter and ring/compojure in the past
and I presume that there is some clojure hacking that goes on at Hack
the Tower. I think sorting out the contributors' agreements and
hacking on this would be a great idea.

cheers,
Bruce

On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Julian Birch  wrote:
> Indeed.  My personal advice would be get a Contributor's Agreement signed
> off first.  I never have... It's a genuinely interesting idea, but London
> Clojurians doesn't really do any communal dev (well, there's plenty of
> ad-hoc stuff.)
>
> J
>
>
> On 7 May 2014 15:55, Nathan Fisher  wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if this is something worth bumping to the main clojure dev list?
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 7 May 2014, Ben Evans  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I mostly only lurk here, but I recently was running a small experiment
>>> with Java 8 Compact Profiles (essentially, restricted versions of the
>>> JRE designed for serverside deployments that only ship a subset of
>>> rt.jar) and thought it might be of interest.
>>>
>>> Clojure appears to depend on the full JRE, but this seems to be due to
>>> only a few packages. From my initial investigations, it seems that it
>>> wouldn't be too hard to persuade the main parts of Clojure (basically,
>>> everything which doesn't do Swing/GUI stuff) to only need compact1
>>> (the most restrictive profile) instead.
>>>
>>> The benefits would be reduced disk footprint, better security and
>>> possible startup time and memory footprint improvements for the
>>> majority of Clojure users, at a cost of needing to subdivide the
>>> clojure jars.
>>>
>>> Is this something that the community would be interested in
>>> investigating, and if so, are there people who have cycles to
>>> contribute? Or has someone tried this already?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
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Clojure & Java 8 Compact Profiles

2014-05-07 Thread Ben Evans
Hello,

I mostly only lurk here, but I recently was running a small experiment
with Java 8 Compact Profiles (essentially, restricted versions of the
JRE designed for serverside deployments that only ship a subset of
rt.jar) and thought it might be of interest.

Clojure appears to depend on the full JRE, but this seems to be due to
only a few packages. From my initial investigations, it seems that it
wouldn't be too hard to persuade the main parts of Clojure (basically,
everything which doesn't do Swing/GUI stuff) to only need compact1
(the most restrictive profile) instead.

The benefits would be reduced disk footprint, better security and
possible startup time and memory footprint improvements for the
majority of Clojure users, at a cost of needing to subdivide the
clojure jars.

Is this something that the community would be interested in
investigating, and if so, are there people who have cycles to
contribute? Or has someone tried this already?

Thanks,

Ben

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