Re: JavaScript is Assembly Language for the Web
>From an historic perspective it's absolutely right. It happened in the past already. When you end up writing thousands of lines of code to achieve what should be a simple objective and you need assistance from sophisticated tools to get the task done, it means that the language used is at a very low level in the language stack. That's what motivated the emergence of high level (at the time) languages like Fortran, Cobol, Pascal, ... to get away from the metal and assemblers. It's exactly the same today, a search for more concise expressiveness to achieve more complex goals. Java and C/C++ have attained their apogee in terms of expressing today's problems. They are a better than assemblers but they will get confined to the bottom of the language stack as better alternatives emerge. It does not mean they are not useful anymore, assemblers were widely used in the 1980s/90s in low level libraries and in resource constrained environments (bank tellers, ...) Being able to use Java libs from Clojure in the same fashion is valuable. No one would like to rewrite all the Java libs in Clojure or any other of today's high level language. It's simply unrealistic. Luc P. On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:16:11 +0200 Lars Heidieker wrote: > Except for the fact that it is categorically wrong, it's some > intuition behind the statement that might be valid. > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Frank Gerhardt > wrote: > > Yes. And somebody said that Java is the assembly language of the > > JVM. So true. > > Frank. > > > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Jimmy > > wrote: > >> > >> With clojurescript just launched, I thought there might be some > >> interest in this podcast by Scott Hanselman. > >> JavaScript is Assembly Language for the Web - > >> http://www.hanselminutes.com/default.aspx?showID=294 > >> > >> Some discussion regarding the podcast. > >> > >> http://www.hanselman.com/blog/JavaScriptIsAssemblyLanguageForTheWebPart2MadnessOrJustInsanity.aspx > >> > >> Regards, > >> Jimmy > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "Clojure" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient > >> with your first post. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient > > with your first post. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > -- Luc P. The rabid Muppet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: JavaScript is Assembly Language for the Web
Except for the fact that it is categorically wrong, it's some intuition behind the statement that might be valid. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Frank Gerhardt wrote: > Yes. And somebody said that Java is the assembly language of the JVM. So > true. > Frank. > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Jimmy wrote: >> >> With clojurescript just launched, I thought there might be some >> interest in this podcast by Scott Hanselman. >> JavaScript is Assembly Language for the Web - >> http://www.hanselminutes.com/default.aspx?showID=294 >> >> Some discussion regarding the podcast. >> >> http://www.hanselman.com/blog/JavaScriptIsAssemblyLanguageForTheWebPart2MadnessOrJustInsanity.aspx >> >> Regards, >> Jimmy >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- Mystische Erklärungen: Die mystischen Erklärungen gelten für tief; die Wahrheit ist, dass sie noch nicht einmal oberflächlich sind. -- Friedrich Nietzsche [ Die Fröhliche Wissenschaft Buch 3, 126 ] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: JavaScript is Assembly Language for the Web
Yes. And somebody said that Java is the assembly language of the JVM. So true. Frank. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Jimmy wrote: > > With clojurescript just launched, I thought there might be some > interest in this podcast by Scott Hanselman. > JavaScript is Assembly Language for the Web - > http://www.hanselminutes.com/default.aspx?showID=294 > > Some discussion regarding the podcast. > > http://www.hanselman.com/blog/JavaScriptIsAssemblyLanguageForTheWebPart2MadnessOrJustInsanity.aspx > > Regards, > Jimmy > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
JavaScript is Assembly Language for the Web
With clojurescript just launched, I thought there might be some interest in this podcast by Scott Hanselman. JavaScript is Assembly Language for the Web - http://www.hanselminutes.com/default.aspx?showID=294 Some discussion regarding the podcast. http://www.hanselman.com/blog/JavaScriptIsAssemblyLanguageForTheWebPart2MadnessOrJustInsanity.aspx Regards, Jimmy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
