Re: Success Stories w/US Government Projects

2014-08-09 Thread Dylan Butman
We've had a software product in congress for a while now. The version there 
isn't clojure, but we've had a number of talks about integrating our newer 
versions that do contain heavy amounts of clojure. We recently did a 
complete rewrite of cosponsor.gov (which we had previously written in 
ruby/js) in clojure for a congressman. It's down at the moment due to 
changes in the political climate (the guy who paid for it is now out of 
office). I'm not as familiar with the intricacies of the process as our 
other developer who worked on the original project. 

I'd be happy to try to set up a call or connect you via email with the 
folks who might be able to answer more specific questions about our 
experience

On Friday, August 8, 2014 8:54:08 PM UTC-4, rcg wrote:
>
> Hello;
>
> We are looking for Clojure success stories within the US Government.
>
> If you have a success story you'd be willing to share, this may counter or 
> help resolve objections to the EPL license that have been raised by 
> Lawyers. Our development group has had much success with Clojure. 
> Unfortunately, we may be forced away from Clojure. 
>
> An alternative would be to have the license modified (we understand that 
> is probably a non-starter) or have a dual license setup for Clojure (with 
> acceptable license).
>
> However, if there are other groups out there that have survived "US Govt 
> Lawyer Scrutiny" of the EPL, that may be very useful.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help!
>

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Re: Success Stories w/US Government Projects

2014-08-09 Thread rcg
was there any lawyerly review of the EPL as part of your project?

On Saturday, August 9, 2014 2:30:10 PM UTC-10, Dylan Butman wrote:
>
> We've had a software product in congress for a while now. The version 
> there isn't clojure, but we've had a number of talks about integrating our 
> newer versions that do contain heavy amounts of clojure. We recently did a 
> complete rewrite of cosponsor.gov (which we had previously written in 
> ruby/js) in clojure for a congressman. It's down at the moment due to 
> changes in the political climate (the guy who paid for it is now out of 
> office). I'm not as familiar with the intricacies of the process as our 
> other developer who worked on the original project. 
>
> I'd be happy to try to set up a call or connect you via email with the 
> folks who might be able to answer more specific questions about our 
> experience
>
> On Friday, August 8, 2014 8:54:08 PM UTC-4, rcg wrote:
>>
>> Hello;
>>
>> We are looking for Clojure success stories within the US Government.
>>
>> If you have a success story you'd be willing to share, this may counter 
>> or help resolve objections to the EPL license that have been raised by 
>> Lawyers. Our development group has had much success with Clojure. 
>> Unfortunately, we may be forced away from Clojure. 
>>
>> An alternative would be to have the license modified (we understand that 
>> is probably a non-starter) or have a dual license setup for Clojure (with 
>> acceptable license).
>>
>> However, if there are other groups out there that have survived "US Govt 
>> Lawyer Scrutiny" of the EPL, that may be very useful.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help!
>>
>

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Re: Success Stories w/US Government Projects

2014-08-10 Thread Paul Butcher
Out of interest, which aspect(s) of the EPL are your lawyers objecting to?

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On 9 August 2014 at 01:54:22, rcg (randy.goebb...@gmail.com) wrote:

Hello;

We are looking for Clojure success stories within the US Government.

If you have a success story you'd be willing to share, this may counter or help 
resolve objections to the EPL license that have been raised by Lawyers. Our 
development group has had much success with Clojure. Unfortunately, we may be 
forced away from Clojure. 

An alternative would be to have the license modified (we understand that is 
probably a non-starter) or have a dual license setup for Clojure (with 
acceptable license).

However, if there are other groups out there that have survived "US Govt Lawyer 
Scrutiny" of the EPL, that may be very useful.

Thanks in advance for any help!
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Re: Success Stories w/US Government Projects

2014-08-10 Thread Jozef Wagner
For the context, recent discussion about EPL Vs 
Government https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/clojure/jNEYM04TLiU

Jozef

On Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:19:48 PM UTC+2, Paul Butcher wrote:
>
> Out of interest, which aspect(s) of the EPL are your lawyers objecting to?
>
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> Silverstone, Brands Hatch, Donington Park...
> Who says I have a one track mind?
>
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> Skype: paulrabutcher
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>
> On 9 August 2014 at 01:54:22, rcg (randy.g...@gmail.com ) 
> wrote:
>
> Hello; 
>
> We are looking for Clojure success stories within the US Government.
>
> If you have a success story you'd be willing to share, this may counter or 
> help resolve objections to the EPL license that have been raised by 
> Lawyers. Our development group has had much success with Clojure. 
> Unfortunately, we may be forced away from Clojure. 
>
> An alternative would be to have the license modified (we understand that 
> is probably a non-starter) or have a dual license setup for Clojure (with 
> acceptable license).
>
> However, if there are other groups out there that have survived "US Govt 
> Lawyer Scrutiny" of the EPL, that may be very useful.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help!
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Re: Success Stories w/US Government Projects

2014-08-10 Thread Alex Miller
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has done some visible Clojure 
work. 

http://cfpb.github.io/articles/seeking-clojure-developers-to-work-on-qu/
https://github.com/cfpb/qu

Alex


On Friday, August 8, 2014 7:54:08 PM UTC-5, rcg wrote:
>
> Hello;
>
> We are looking for Clojure success stories within the US Government.
>
> If you have a success story you'd be willing to share, this may counter or 
> help resolve objections to the EPL license that have been raised by 
> Lawyers. Our development group has had much success with Clojure. 
> Unfortunately, we may be forced away from Clojure. 
>
> An alternative would be to have the license modified (we understand that 
> is probably a non-starter) or have a dual license setup for Clojure (with 
> acceptable license).
>
> However, if there are other groups out there that have survived "US Govt 
> Lawyer Scrutiny" of the EPL, that may be very useful.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help!
>

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Re: Success Stories w/US Government Projects

2014-08-11 Thread rcg
These are the specific objections- BTW we are using clojure as part of 
Server side code for website...

1. "This Agreement is governed by the laws of the State of New York". Not 
acceptable: The federal government cannot agree to be bound by state law.

2. "Each party waives its rights to a jury trial in any 
resulting litigation". Not acceptable: Only DOJ can control litigation.

On Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:19:48 AM UTC-10, Paul Butcher wrote:
>
> Out of interest, which aspect(s) of the EPL are your lawyers objecting to?
>
> --
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>
> Silverstone, Brands Hatch, Donington Park...
> Who says I have a one track mind?
>
> http://www.paulbutcher.com/
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulbutcher
> Skype: paulrabutcher
>
> Author of Seven Concurrency Models in Seven Weeks: When Threads Unravel
> http://pragprog.com/book/pb7con
>
> On 9 August 2014 at 01:54:22, rcg (randy.g...@gmail.com ) 
> wrote:
>
> Hello; 
>
> We are looking for Clojure success stories within the US Government.
>
> If you have a success story you'd be willing to share, this may counter or 
> help resolve objections to the EPL license that have been raised by 
> Lawyers. Our development group has had much success with Clojure. 
> Unfortunately, we may be forced away from Clojure. 
>
> An alternative would be to have the license modified (we understand that 
> is probably a non-starter) or have a dual license setup for Clojure (with 
> acceptable license).
>
> However, if there are other groups out there that have survived "US Govt 
> Lawyer Scrutiny" of the EPL, that may be very useful.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help!
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