Re: The Joy of Closure

2011-02-07 Thread Bill Robertson
 Programming Clojure is also a good book, but it is now
 somewhat dated as to what is happening in the language.

In what ways?

I am reading the book now, and I would like to know if there are any
sections that might be superseded by newer language features.

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Re: The Joy of Closure

2011-02-07 Thread Sean Corfield
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Bill Robertson
billrobertso...@gmail.com wrote:
 Programming Clojure is also a good book, but it is now
 somewhat dated as to what is happening in the language.
 I am reading the book now, and I would like to know if there are any
 sections that might be superseded by newer language features.

My understanding is that Programming Clojure came out in May 2009 and
covers Clojure 1.1 - and lots of new features were added in Clojure
1.2:

https://github.com/clojure/clojure/blob/1.2.x/changes.txt
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Re: The Joy of Closure

2011-02-07 Thread Ken Wesson
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Bill Robertson
 billrobertso...@gmail.com wrote:
 Programming Clojure is also a good book, but it is now
 somewhat dated as to what is happening in the language.
 I am reading the book now, and I would like to know if there are any
 sections that might be superseded by newer language features.

 My understanding is that Programming Clojure came out in May 2009 and
 covers Clojure 1.1 - and lots of new features were added in Clojure
 1.2:

 https://github.com/clojure/clojure/blob/1.2.x/changes.txt

Practical Clojure covers 1.2 features, including defrecord and defprotocol.

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Re: The Joy of Closure

2011-01-18 Thread Alex Ott
Hi

From my point of view, it's better to take 'Clojure in Action' first,
and only after it to take 'The Joy of Clojure' - it about more
advanced techniques (I reviewed it in my blog, if you interested -
http://alexott.blogspot.com/2010/10/readings-digest-september-2010.html)

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:49 PM, flebber flebber.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was looking at the title on amazon, after recently discovering
 clojure recently. The product description on aamazon is somewhat
 brief. There are no reviews as the book is released in a few days.

 I have been learning and progressing via HTDP.org with Racket. I want
 to learn clojure, is this book appopriate for a new clojure user with
 limited programming skills?



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Re: The Joy of Closure

2011-01-18 Thread Base
I really enjoyed 'Programming Clojure'.  I thought it was written at
an appropriate level for a beginner (which I most certainly am).  It
explained a lot of the concepts like laziness and recursion in a way
that helped out with these concepts at a basic level while still
giving some non-trivial examples.

I think the 'Joy of Clojure' is fantastic (I am working through it
now) but is a little higher level for an intro unless you are somewhat
advanced in Racket.

http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Clojure-Pragmatic-Programmers-Halloway/dp/1934356336


On Jan 18, 8:49 am, flebber flebber.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was looking at the title on amazon, after recently discovering
 clojure recently. The product description on aamazon is somewhat
 brief. There are no reviews as the book is released in a few days.

 I have been learning and progressing via HTDP.org with Racket. I want
 to learn clojure, is this book appopriate for a new clojure user with
 limited programming skills?

 sayth

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Re: The Joy of Closure

2011-01-18 Thread cej38
I have read large chunks of all of the (English language) Clojure
books.  I think The Joy of Clojure is the most well written of the
books.  It is true that I didn't start reading it until I was already
familiar with Clojure, but I think that this is the one to start
with.  Programming Clojure is also a good book, but it is now
somewhat dated as to what is happening in the language.  The authors
of Clojure in Action definitely know their stuff, but if you have
only limited programming skills (like I do) it is at too high a level.





On Jan 18, 9:49 am, flebber flebber.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was looking at the title on amazon, after recently discovering
 clojure recently. The product description on aamazon is somewhat
 brief. There are no reviews as the book is released in a few days.

 I have been learning and progressing via HTDP.org with Racket. I want
 to learn clojure, is this book appopriate for a new clojure user with
 limited programming skills?

 sayth

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Re: The Joy of Closure

2011-01-18 Thread faenvie

not to forget practical clojure from apress:

http://apress.com/book/view/1430272317

which gives a good introduction too
and mark volkmanns article:

http://java.ociweb.com/mark/clojure/article.html

which is free and also gives an excellent
introduction.

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Re: The Joy of Closure

2011-01-18 Thread flebber


On Jan 19, 5:21 am, faenvie fanny.aen...@gmx.de wrote:
 not to forget practical clojure from apress:

 http://apress.com/book/view/1430272317

 which gives a good introduction too
 and mark volkmanns article:

 http://java.ociweb.com/mark/clojure/article.html

 which is free and also gives an excellent
 introduction.

Thank you for the link to mark volkmanns article. It may be a good
starting point. I have concerns with the books printed back in 2009 as
it appears there has been a lot of development and advancement since
then with datatypes and other structures appearing in 1.2 in October
2010.

I might look at practical clojure and the joy of closure after reading
volkmann. there are a few used practical clojure books on amazon so it
wont break the budget.

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Re: The Joy of Closure

2011-01-18 Thread rob levy
This may be a typo, but since I saw it more than once, it could be worth
noting (maybe save you some trouble) that clo[jsz]ure is not an equivalence
class.  Closure with a capital C can either be Google's JS library, or a
Common Lisp web browser (and some of its associated component libraries like
Closure XML).  Clozure is a consulting company in Somerville, MA that
develops Macintosh Common Lisp, also known as... Clozure! :)

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:02 PM, flebber flebber.c...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Jan 19, 5:21 am, faenvie fanny.aen...@gmx.de wrote:
  not to forget practical clojure from apress:
 
  http://apress.com/book/view/1430272317
 
  which gives a good introduction too
  and mark volkmanns article:
 
  http://java.ociweb.com/mark/clojure/article.html
 
  which is free and also gives an excellent
  introduction.

 Thank you for the link to mark volkmanns article. It may be a good
 starting point. I have concerns with the books printed back in 2009 as
 it appears there has been a lot of development and advancement since
 then with datatypes and other structures appearing in 1.2 in October
 2010.

 I might look at practical clojure and the joy of closure after reading
 volkmann. there are a few used practical clojure books on amazon so it
 wont break the budget.

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