Re: ease of use

2012-11-22 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:39 PM, atucker  wrote:

> Thanks all!  Sounds like I need to install some more stuff.


I'll +1 what some of the others have said: I too started with Aquamacs and
was told "don't do that" and later learned they were right! Emacs 24.x from
the emacsformacosx.com site will be a better start. Add the marmalade repo,
install the starter-kit package and the various nrepl packages and you
should be mostly good to go.


> One more question if anyone knows: didn't it use to be possible to make
> parallel connections to the same server?  Can't seem to do it with the new
> set-up...
>

I just started up a lein repl in one window and then in Emacs did M-x nrepl
to connect to it, then M-x nrepl again to create a second connection to the
same server and it seems to work (I hadn't tried that before).
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Re: ease of use

2012-11-22 Thread atucker
Thanks all!  Sounds like I need to install some more stuff.
One more question if anyone knows: didn't it use to be possible to make 
parallel connections to the same server?  Can't seem to do it with the new 
set-up...
A



On Friday, November 23, 2012 12:37:33 AM UTC, Las wrote:
>
> Alternatively, 
>
> do as Moritz suggested, except don't install packages manually via M-x 
> package-list-packages, but rather
>
> go and get https://github.com/overtone/emacs-live
>
> then nrepl.el keybindings are documented at 
> https://github.com/kingtim/nrepl.el
>
> Good luck!
>
> Las
>
> 2012/11/23 Moritz Ulrich >
>
>> Don't use Aquamacs. I don't know of the current state, but some time
>> ago experienced the same stuff. It "somehow doesn't work" when using
>> Aquamacs.
>>
>> I recommend Emacs.app from http://emacsformacosx.com or installation
>> via homebrew (brew install emacs --cocoa && brew linkapps). M-x
>> package-list-packages, select nrepl and clojure-mode, hit x, setup
>> finished. Leiningen2 is the perfect companion for this setup.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:24 AM, atucker > 
>> wrote:
>> > On the Mac, I got it kinda working, but can't work out how to break on a
>> > misjudged command, and the namespaces are permanently misaligned (in-ns
>> > doesn't work, C-c M-n doesn't work).  It feels like nothing really 
>> works,
>> > perhaps it didn't install properly (M-x install-package just hung).
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Re: ease of use

2012-11-22 Thread László Török
Alternatively,

do as Moritz suggested, except don't install packages manually via M-x
package-list-packages, but rather

go and get https://github.com/overtone/emacs-live

then nrepl.el keybindings are documented at
https://github.com/kingtim/nrepl.el

Good luck!

Las

2012/11/23 Moritz Ulrich 

> Don't use Aquamacs. I don't know of the current state, but some time
> ago experienced the same stuff. It "somehow doesn't work" when using
> Aquamacs.
>
> I recommend Emacs.app from http://emacsformacosx.com or installation
> via homebrew (brew install emacs --cocoa && brew linkapps). M-x
> package-list-packages, select nrepl and clojure-mode, hit x, setup
> finished. Leiningen2 is the perfect companion for this setup.
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:24 AM, atucker  wrote:
> > On the Mac, I got it kinda working, but can't work out how to break on a
> > misjudged command, and the namespaces are permanently misaligned (in-ns
> > doesn't work, C-c M-n doesn't work).  It feels like nothing really works,
> > perhaps it didn't install properly (M-x install-package just hung).
>
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Re: ease of use

2012-11-22 Thread Moritz Ulrich
Don't use Aquamacs. I don't know of the current state, but some time
ago experienced the same stuff. It "somehow doesn't work" when using
Aquamacs.

I recommend Emacs.app from http://emacsformacosx.com or installation
via homebrew (brew install emacs --cocoa && brew linkapps). M-x
package-list-packages, select nrepl and clojure-mode, hit x, setup
finished. Leiningen2 is the perfect companion for this setup.

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:24 AM, atucker  wrote:
> On the Mac, I got it kinda working, but can't work out how to break on a
> misjudged command, and the namespaces are permanently misaligned (in-ns
> doesn't work, C-c M-n doesn't work).  It feels like nothing really works,
> perhaps it didn't install properly (M-x install-package just hung).

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Re: ease of use

2012-11-22 Thread atucker
Happy Thanksgiving!  You're right of course.
  I guess my problem is with the emacs set-up, I should make a proper 
report on the dedicated mailing lists.
In general terms, I just find it surprising that it's getting harder not 
easier.  I've tried with emacs on linux but apparently version 22 is too 
old, even with Tromey's ELPA file, and I don't have the privileges to 
update it.  On the Mac, I got it kinda working, but can't work out how to 
break on a misjudged command, and the namespaces are permanently misaligned 
(in-ns doesn't work, C-c M-n doesn't work).  It feels like nothing really 
works, perhaps it didn't install properly (M-x install-package just hung).
  A

On Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:54:59 PM UTC, Aaron Cohen wrote:
>
> Reports like this are only as valuable as the information they provide. 
> While we're sympathetic with your frustration, you haven't even begun to 
> give us anything to go on in terms of 1) helping you with your problem or 
> even 2) improving Clojure.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving!
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:47 PM, atucker 
> > wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I'm in a bad mood.  For context, after hours of struggling with 
>> Aquamacs and the new nrepl, I find it's overwritten my last two days' work.
>> I guess it's likely my fault, I probably clicked the wrong key in my 
>> frustrated eightieth attempt to restart the repl.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:37:22 PM UTC, atucker wrote:
>>>
>>> K guys,
>>>   I honestly don't want to piss on Clojure, I know how hard a lot of 
>>> people have worked for a long time in order to make this a viable language. 
>>>  I respect and am grateful for your dedication.
>>>   But you should know this: every time I come back to use Clojure I find 
>>> that it's become harder.  Maybe it's my mind that's going (quite possible). 
>>>  Or maybe it's something you should worry about.
>>>   A
>>>
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Re: ease of use

2012-11-22 Thread Aaron Cohen
Reports like this are only as valuable as the information they provide.
While we're sympathetic with your frustration, you haven't even begun to
give us anything to go on in terms of 1) helping you with your problem or
even 2) improving Clojure.

Happy Thanksgiving!


On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:47 PM, atucker  wrote:

> Sorry, I'm in a bad mood.  For context, after hours of struggling with
> Aquamacs and the new nrepl, I find it's overwritten my last two days' work.
> I guess it's likely my fault, I probably clicked the wrong key in my
> frustrated eightieth attempt to restart the repl.
>
> On Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:37:22 PM UTC, atucker wrote:
>>
>> K guys,
>>   I honestly don't want to piss on Clojure, I know how hard a lot of
>> people have worked for a long time in order to make this a viable language.
>>  I respect and am grateful for your dedication.
>>   But you should know this: every time I come back to use Clojure I find
>> that it's become harder.  Maybe it's my mind that's going (quite possible).
>>  Or maybe it's something you should worry about.
>>   A
>>
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Re: ease of use

2012-11-22 Thread atucker
Sorry, I'm in a bad mood.  For context, after hours of struggling with 
Aquamacs and the new nrepl, I find it's overwritten my last two days' work.
I guess it's likely my fault, I probably clicked the wrong key in my 
frustrated eightieth attempt to restart the repl.

On Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:37:22 PM UTC, atucker wrote:
>
> K guys,
>   I honestly don't want to piss on Clojure, I know how hard a lot of 
> people have worked for a long time in order to make this a viable language. 
>  I respect and am grateful for your dedication.
>   But you should know this: every time I come back to use Clojure I find 
> that it's become harder.  Maybe it's my mind that's going (quite possible). 
>  Or maybe it's something you should worry about.
>   A
>

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