Re: [cloud] #105: Missing Cockpit RPMs in Fedora Atomic 22

2015-06-01 Thread Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets
#105: Missing Cockpit RPMs in Fedora Atomic 22
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 Reporter:  jzb|   Owner:
 Type:  defect |  Status:  new
 Priority:  blocker|   Milestone:  Fedora 22
Component:  Docker Host Image  |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  meeting|
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Comment (by mattdm):

 +1 to focusing on moving forward. I have great confidence that everyone
 here wants to do the right thing; there's just a lot up in the air all at
 once.

 I'm told that [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ttomecek Tomas Tomecek]
 is working on something w.r.t. layered image building. Dennis, is that
 what you're referring to, or something else? If we land this for F23
 (ideally, as I know you like to do, before alpha), can we also turn it on
 for F22?

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Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-01 Thread Kushal Das
Hi,

Thank you everyone for a great Fedora 22 release. Things are stable now,
before we can understand we will be in the alpha freeze for Fedora 23.
So this is a good time to start working on the new features list for Fedora
23. 23rd June is the last date to submit a new system wide change
for Fedora 23, 11th August is the alpha release for Fedora 23.

Below I have written few points which came up in different discussions.
Please feel free to comment/add/delete in this thread.

* Better user documentation for cloud. We need something better than
  wiki.
* Notification of pending updates in the base image. After login the
  user should get a motd message saying which all updates are pending (I
  have worked on this part time before).
* Reduce the base cloud image size (we also have
  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/378 )
* testCloud (pushed back from Fedora 22 change list).
* https://github.com/vmware/tdnf this might help us to go another step
  closer to remove Python stack from the cloud image.* Having a better
* workstation to cloud story (came up in the last week's meeting).

Kushal
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CPython Core Developer
Director @ Python Software Foundation
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Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-01 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Kushal Das kushal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Thank you everyone for a great Fedora 22 release. Things are stable now,
 before we can understand we will be in the alpha freeze for Fedora 23.
 So this is a good time to start working on the new features list for Fedora
 23. 23rd June is the last date to submit a new system wide change
 for Fedora 23, 11th August is the alpha release for Fedora 23.

 Below I have written few points which came up in different discussions.
 Please feel free to comment/add/delete in this thread.

 * Better user documentation for cloud. We need something better than
   wiki.

For a volunteer-run documentation project, I'm extremely impressed
with the Mozilla Developer Network's site. The underlying CMS is
something they built after struggling with some commercial offerings.
It's called Kuma and it's open source. Here's the link:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/MDN/Kuma

So I'd say:

1. Reach out to Mozilla
2. Package Kuma for Fedora
3. 
4. Profit! ;-)

[snip]

My other long-standing wishlist item (one which I hack on myself
sporadically) is a Boot2Docker-like point and click user interface for
Windows 8.1+ Professional using Client Hyper-V as the hosting
mechanism and Project Atomic (any of RHEL/CentOS/Fedora incarnations)
as the Docker host. I've been able to make Atomic virtual machines via
the bare metal Fedora Atomic ISO and run containers, but there's no
point-and-click installer or documentation, both of which are
mandatory for this use case. There's also no market research that
indicates anyone but me would use it. ;-)

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Cloud Workgroup

2015-06-01 Thread dusty
Dear all,

You are kindly invited to the meeting:
   Fedora Cloud Workgroup on 2015-06-03 from 19:00:00 to 20:00:00 UTC
   At fedora-meet...@irc.freenode.net

The meeting will be about:
Standing meeting for the Fedora Cloud Workgroup


Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/1999/

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Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-01 Thread Rickard von Essen
I think there is one good (nearly) point and click installer that we could
use (more): vagrant. Currently there is only boxes for VirtualBox and
libvirt, maybe it would be possible to provide boxes for VMware, Parallels,
KVM etc. It would also be great to publish the meta-info on
https://atlas.hashicorp.com to allow something like vagrant init
fedora/atomic-23.

If we are looking for a more boot2docker like solution it is good to know
that boot2docker (cli) is being deprecated by docker machine which actually
(soon) have a decent number of drivers (VirtualBox, VMware etc). Docker
machine just downloads and uses the boot2docker.iso. It should be possible
to use another iso as long as it follows some expectations by docker
machine. In the near future there will also be a GUI for docker machine
called https://kitematic.com/ .

And to repeat what previously have been said, there is a desperate need of
better documentation.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:15 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky zn...@znmeb.net
wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Kushal Das kushal...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Thank you everyone for a great Fedora 22 release. Things are stable now,
  before we can understand we will be in the alpha freeze for Fedora 23.
  So this is a good time to start working on the new features list for
 Fedora
  23. 23rd June is the last date to submit a new system wide change
  for Fedora 23, 11th August is the alpha release for Fedora 23.
 
  Below I have written few points which came up in different discussions.
  Please feel free to comment/add/delete in this thread.
 
  * Better user documentation for cloud. We need something better than
wiki.

 For a volunteer-run documentation project, I'm extremely impressed
 with the Mozilla Developer Network's site. The underlying CMS is
 something they built after struggling with some commercial offerings.
 It's called Kuma and it's open source. Here's the link:
 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/MDN/Kuma

 So I'd say:

 1. Reach out to Mozilla
 2. Package Kuma for Fedora
 3. 
 4. Profit! ;-)

 [snip]

 My other long-standing wishlist item (one which I hack on myself
 sporadically) is a Boot2Docker-like point and click user interface for
 Windows 8.1+ Professional using Client Hyper-V as the hosting
 mechanism and Project Atomic (any of RHEL/CentOS/Fedora incarnations)
 as the Docker host. I've been able to make Atomic virtual machines via
 the bare metal Fedora Atomic ISO and run containers, but there's no
 point-and-click installer or documentation, both of which are
 mandatory for this use case. There's also no market research that
 indicates anyone but me would use it. ;-)

 --
 OSJourno: Robust Power Tools for Digital Journalists

 http://www.znmeb.mobi/stories/osjourno-robust-power-tools-for-digital-journalists

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Re: Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

2015-06-01 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 06/01/2015 06:46 PM, Rickard von Essen wrote:
 I think there is one good (nearly) point and click installer that we
 could use (more): vagrant. Currently there is only boxes for VirtualBox
 and libvirt, maybe it would be possible to provide boxes for VMware,
 Parallels, KVM etc. It would also be great to publish the meta-info
 on https://atlas.hashicorp.com to allow something like vagrant init
 fedora/atomic-23.

we should add this to the PRD / features for F23. Note that it's not
always trivial to add support for new box types. (Note, KVM is implied
with libvirt, so we have that covered. Does Vagrant have a Parallels
provider? VMware seems like an important target.)

 If we are looking for a more boot2docker like solution it is good to
 know that boot2docker (cli) is being deprecated by docker machine which
 actually (soon) have a decent number of drivers (VirtualBox, VMware
 etc). Docker machine just downloads and uses the boot2docker.iso. It
 should be possible to use another iso as long as it follows some
 expectations by docker machine. In the near future there will also be a
 GUI for docker machine called https://kitematic.com/ .

I haven't tried docker machine, we should look into this...

Best,

jzb
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j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/
Twitter: @jzb  | http://projectatomic.io/



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Re: Fedora.next PRD refresh

2015-06-01 Thread Truong Anh Tuan

- Original Message -
 From: Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com
 To: Server SIG ser...@lists.fedoraproject.org, 
 desk...@lists.fedoraproject.org,
 devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org, cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 2:03:44 AM
 Subject: Fedora.next PRD refresh

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 == Future PRD Refreshes ==
 Starting at Flock 2016 (yes, *next* calendar year), each working group
 will have a workshop scheduled at Flock to go over its PRD and plan for
 the following year. Note: because Flock generally falls between Alpha
 and Beta of a Fedora release, all PRD planning is presumed to be a
 directive for Fedora N+1 and N+2 at that time, not retroactively
 applied to the current release.
 
 The workshops are expected to cover the majority of the update, and
 then they will be brought back to the respective mailing lists for
 further review before being due to the Council one month after Flock
 concludes.

+1. This is a good idea and it is important to push products toward on
the right way.
I am just curious why it would not be held from this year? because of
time constrains?

Rgds,
Tuan
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