Re: EC2 cloud image size

2015-01-30 Thread David Gay
- Original Message -
 From: Dmitry Makovey dmi...@athabascau.ca
 To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:50:52 AM
 Subject: Re: EC2 cloud image size
 
 On 01/02/2015 05:46 PM, David Gay wrote:
  Hey -- I actually solved this problem during the holidays. Lowered
  the size to 3 GB as suggested. There just haven't been any new builds
  that have gone through, and I haven't cut a new version just yet
  anyway (due to the holidays). It's no problem for me to send someone
  a list of fresh AMIs of the F21 cloud build with the lowered size
  tomorrow, if someone can toss them on the official website, as well.
  But yeah, this is all done. Just had to tweak two numbers is all.
  
 
 OK, So David's part is done, however AWS still shows old AMI's. Does it
 mean we have to nudge/bump someone to push new images over?

The AMIs need to be updated on the web team's side. I'm told I'd probably have 
to send a patch in rather than get commit access. I'd like to provide them with 
a list of entirely fresh AMIs with the smaller volume size, including the new 
base HVM images. Do we have someone who's looped in with the web team (maybe 
robyduck?) who can manage this? I could write a patch myself, but I've looked 
at the code and I'm unfamiliar with the particular templating language and JS 
used on that area of the page, and also, we need a new 
button/selector/something so that users can choose paravirtual or HVM when they 
select Fedora Cloud base. I figured the implementation of that new 
button/selector/whatever should be left up to the web team.

All that being said, if someone can connect us to the web team on this one, I 
can send out a fresh, signed list of AMIs to this list. From there, the web 
team can update the page with the new AMI IDs however they see fit.

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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2015-01-29 Thread Dmitry Makovey
On 01/02/2015 05:46 PM, David Gay wrote:
 Hey -- I actually solved this problem during the holidays. Lowered
 the size to 3 GB as suggested. There just haven't been any new builds
 that have gone through, and I haven't cut a new version just yet
 anyway (due to the holidays). It's no problem for me to send someone
 a list of fresh AMIs of the F21 cloud build with the lowered size
 tomorrow, if someone can toss them on the official website, as well.
 But yeah, this is all done. Just had to tweak two numbers is all.
 

OK, So David's part is done, however AWS still shows old AMI's. Does it
mean we have to nudge/bump someone to push new images over?

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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2015-01-08 Thread David Gay
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 From: David Gay d...@redhat.com
 To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 4:46:44 PM
 Subject: Re: EC2 cloud image size
 
 - Original Message -
  From: Dmitry Makovey dmi...@athabascau.ca
  To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org
  Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 3:02:20 PM
  Subject: Re: EC2 cloud image size
  
  On 12/17/2014 02:09 PM, David Gay wrote:
   On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 03:07:12PM -0700, Dmitry Makovey wrote:
   Does it mean that soon enough we'll see an updated AMI with
   moderate disk demands?
   
   For some value of soon enough, yeah. Sorry about that -- I'm
   checking with David Gay, who wrote the uploader.
   
   Yeah, this was my oversight. Seems the cloud base image is only 425
   MB. I can produce new AMIs right now. Do you think a 1 GB or 500 MB
   drive would be best, or something else?
  
  /gentle/ bump?
  
  Is any help required to get F21 smaller images to AWS? I'd love to
  help (if I can) since I'm interested in the outcome myself.
  
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 Hey -- I actually solved this problem during the holidays. Lowered the size
 to 3 GB as suggested. There just haven't been any new builds that have gone
 through, and I haven't cut a new version just yet anyway (due to the
 holidays). It's no problem for me to send someone a list of fresh AMIs of
 the F21 cloud build with the lowered size tomorrow, if someone can toss them
 on the official website, as well. But yeah, this is all done. Just had to
 tweak two numbers is all.
 
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Regarding this, I've published a list of new F21 cloud x86_64 base AMIs -- in 
both HVM and PV -- to this list[1]. These AMIs have been registered with our 
minimum size requirement, 3 GB. Much smaller than the previous 12 GB 
registrations. Hopefully, this solves everyone's issues for now. If desired, I 
can send out a list of fresh Atomic AMIs with the lower 3 GB requirement, too. 
That email was mostly an announcement that base images are now available in 
HVM, though.

[1]: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/cloud/2015-January/004831.html

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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2015-01-05 Thread Dmitry Makovey
On 01/02/2015 05:46 PM, David Gay wrote:
 Hey -- I actually solved this problem during the holidays. Lowered
 the size to 3 GB as suggested. There just haven't been any new builds
 that have gone through, and I haven't cut a new version just yet
 anyway (due to the holidays). It's no problem for me to send someone
 a list of fresh AMIs of the F21 cloud build with the lowered size
 tomorrow, if someone can toss them on the official website, as well.
 But yeah, this is all done. Just had to tweak two numbers is all.

Yay David! :)


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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2015-01-02 Thread Dmitry Makovey
On 12/17/2014 02:09 PM, David Gay wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 03:07:12PM -0700, Dmitry Makovey wrote:
 Does it mean that soon enough we'll see an updated AMI with
 moderate disk demands?
 
 For some value of soon enough, yeah. Sorry about that -- I'm
 checking with David Gay, who wrote the uploader.
 
 Yeah, this was my oversight. Seems the cloud base image is only 425
 MB. I can produce new AMIs right now. Do you think a 1 GB or 500 MB
 drive would be best, or something else?

/gentle/ bump?

Is any help required to get F21 smaller images to AWS? I'd love to
help (if I can) since I'm interested in the outcome myself.

-- 
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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2015-01-02 Thread David Gay
- Original Message -
 From: Dmitry Makovey dmi...@athabascau.ca
 To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 3:02:20 PM
 Subject: Re: EC2 cloud image size
 
 On 12/17/2014 02:09 PM, David Gay wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 03:07:12PM -0700, Dmitry Makovey wrote:
  Does it mean that soon enough we'll see an updated AMI with
  moderate disk demands?
  
  For some value of soon enough, yeah. Sorry about that -- I'm
  checking with David Gay, who wrote the uploader.
  
  Yeah, this was my oversight. Seems the cloud base image is only 425
  MB. I can produce new AMIs right now. Do you think a 1 GB or 500 MB
  drive would be best, or something else?
 
 /gentle/ bump?
 
 Is any help required to get F21 smaller images to AWS? I'd love to
 help (if I can) since I'm interested in the outcome myself.
 
 --
 Dmitry Makovey
 Web Systems Administrator
 Athabasca University
 (780) 675-6245
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Hey -- I actually solved this problem during the holidays. Lowered the size to 
3 GB as suggested. There just haven't been any new builds that have gone 
through, and I haven't cut a new version just yet anyway (due to the holidays). 
It's no problem for me to send someone a list of fresh AMIs of the F21 cloud 
build with the lowered size tomorrow, if someone can toss them on the official 
website, as well. But yeah, this is all done. Just had to tweak two numbers is 
all.

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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2014-12-18 Thread Dmitry Makovey
On 12/17/2014 10:32 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 Anaconda requires at least a 3G disk to install so the disk image
 backing the cloud image is 3G you need to be at least that

are you saying that this has been introduced in F21? I have just spun up
F20 on a 2G disk with no issues.

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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2014-12-18 Thread Dmitry Makovey
On 12/17/2014 02:09 PM, David Gay wrote:
 Yeah, this was my oversight. Seems the cloud base image is only 425
 MB. I can produce new AMIs right now. Do you think a 1 GB or 500 MB
 drive would be best, or something else?

A bit of a side-track: is there a documentation on workflow you use for
creating/uploading those? I haven't seen any detailed step-by-step
guides for creation and upload of Fedora images so far...

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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2014-12-18 Thread Dennis Gilmore
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:03:12 -0700
Dmitry Makovey dmi...@athabascau.ca wrote:

 On 12/17/2014 10:32 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
  Anaconda requires at least a 3G disk to install so the disk image
  backing the cloud image is 3G you need to be at least that
 
 are you saying that this has been introduced in F21? I have just spun
 up F20 on a 2G disk with no issues.
 

yes, we changed how we made disk images in f21 and as a result we had
to make the minimal disk image bigger. it could be made smaller again
with changes to anaconda

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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2014-12-17 Thread Garrett Holmstrom

On 2014-12-17 13:09, David Gay wrote:

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 03:07:12PM -0700, Dmitry Makovey wrote:

Does it mean that soon enough we'll see an updated AMI with moderate
disk demands?


For some value of soon enough, yeah. Sorry about that -- I'm checking
with David Gay, who wrote the uploader.


Yeah, this was my oversight. Seems the cloud base image is only 425 MB. I can 
produce new AMIs right now. Do you think a 1 GB or 500 MB drive would be best, 
or something else?


EBS images can only use 1 GB size increments, and FWIW, the stock images 
that AWS produce come in 2 GB and 8 GB variants.  How does 2 GB sound?


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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2014-12-17 Thread Dennis Gilmore
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:09:03 -0500 (EST)
David Gay d...@redhat.com wrote:

  On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 03:07:12PM -0700, Dmitry Makovey wrote:
   Does it mean that soon enough we'll see an updated AMI with
   moderate disk demands?
  
  For some value of soon enough, yeah. Sorry about that -- I'm
  checking with David Gay, who wrote the uploader.
 
 Yeah, this was my oversight. Seems the cloud base image is only 425
 MB. I can produce new AMIs right now. Do you think a 1 GB or 500 MB
 drive would be best, or something else?

Anaconda requires at least a 3G disk to install so the disk image
backing the cloud image is 3G you need to be at least that

Dennis
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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2014-12-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 02:40:46PM -0700, Dmitry Makovey wrote:
 I just tried to spin up cloud instance of F21 on EC2 only to discover
 it's requirements for 12G volume (???). Am I doing something wrong or
 did F21 jumped from moderate 2-3G (F20) over to 12G overnight. I
 assumed cloud image would be a tiny set of packages with very little
 requirements to fit into all flavors offered by EC2 and alike. Was this
 done to accommodate Docker?

This is something in the upload process — it was supposed to be fixed
in the final and maybe that got overlooked.

It is in fact actually quite small — under 400MB on disk.

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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2014-12-16 Thread Dmitry Makovey
On 12/16/2014 03:00 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 02:40:46PM -0700, Dmitry Makovey wrote:
 I just tried to spin up cloud instance of F21 on EC2 only to discover
 it's requirements for 12G volume (???). Am I doing something wrong or
 did F21 jumped from moderate 2-3G (F20) over to 12G overnight. I
 assumed cloud image would be a tiny set of packages with very little
 requirements to fit into all flavors offered by EC2 and alike. Was this
 done to accommodate Docker?
 
 This is something in the upload process — it was supposed to be fixed
 in the final and maybe that got overlooked.
 
 It is in fact actually quite small — under 400MB on disk.
 

that is what I thought - looking inside the instance not much space was
utilized, however lots got reserved.

Does it mean that soon enough we'll see an updated AMI with moderate
disk demands?

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Re: EC2 cloud image size

2014-12-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 03:07:12PM -0700, Dmitry Makovey wrote:
 Does it mean that soon enough we'll see an updated AMI with moderate
 disk demands?

For some value of soon enough, yeah. Sorry about that -- I'm checking
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