Re: glibc fix to allow instlangs to really work -- too late for f22?

2015-03-18 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 The glibc team has a fix for a longstanding issue, which is that
 instlangs hasn't worked in the installer. This means that in a
 minimal image of about 400MB, 100MB is translation information. (Of
 course we want Fedora to be international, but there are many cases
 like Docker containers where no human is really even looking inside, so
 it's just overhead.)

 In the cloud and docker images, we've been carrying horribly hacks
 (really, horrible) to strip this out ofter the fact. The new fix would
 let us get the same effect the right way. I'm told that this is a
 low-risk change and does not affect the rest of glibc. So, the question
 -- I guess mostly for FESCo, but in general -- is: should we get this
 in before the beta, or should it wait for F23?

How long has it been in F-23?
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glibc fix to allow instlangs to really work -- too late for f22?

2015-03-18 Thread Matthew Miller
The glibc team has a fix for a longstanding issue, which is that
instlangs hasn't worked in the installer. This means that in a
minimal image of about 400MB, 100MB is translation information. (Of
course we want Fedora to be international, but there are many cases
like Docker containers where no human is really even looking inside, so
it's just overhead.)

In the cloud and docker images, we've been carrying horribly hacks
(really, horrible) to strip this out ofter the fact. The new fix would
let us get the same effect the right way. I'm told that this is a
low-risk change and does not affect the rest of glibc. So, the question
-- I guess mostly for FESCo, but in general -- is: should we get this
in before the beta, or should it wait for F23?

-- 
Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org
Fedora Project Leader
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Re: glibc fix to allow instlangs to really work -- too late for f22?

2015-03-18 Thread Haïkel
My 2cts as Cloud SIG member is that we shouldn't wait for F23 as long as
it's ready for beta or even shortly before.

This is not just an annoyance, this is an huge impediment toward successful
cloud product.

I kindly ask fesco to take this into consideration

Regards,
H.
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Re: glibc fix to allow instlangs to really work -- too late for f22?

2015-03-18 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 The glibc team has a fix for a longstanding issue, which is that
 instlangs hasn't worked in the installer. This means that in a
 minimal image of about 400MB, 100MB is translation information. (Of
 course we want Fedora to be international, but there are many cases
 like Docker containers where no human is really even looking inside, so
 it's just overhead.)

 In the cloud and docker images, we've been carrying horribly hacks
 (really, horrible) to strip this out ofter the fact. The new fix would
 let us get the same effect the right way. I'm told that this is a
 low-risk change and does not affect the rest of glibc. So, the question
 -- I guess mostly for FESCo, but in general -- is: should we get this
 in before the beta, or should it wait for F23?

Isn't this causing RPM dependency issues when trying to create rawhide
chroots on RHEL6 hosts via mock?  I am fairly sure it's the reason
COPR rawhide chroots are failing.  If so, then I don't think we want
it in f22 until that is fixed.

josh
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