[CMake] cmake analogue - syncProj visual studio generation tool

2018-03-31 Thread Tarmo Pikaro via CMake
Hi !
On my own free time I've managed to create tool similar to cmake - command line 
tool called syncProj.
Currently syncProj is aiming also for portability, but it currently has 
narrower list of supported platforms - supported platforms are at this moment 
only Windows and Android, butonly Visual studio based.
Where cmake is using special kind of language, syncProj uses C# programming 
language as a base, and because of this allows full support forsyncProj C# 
script code syntax highlighting, intellisense and full debug support.
Documentation:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C1YrbFUVpTBXajbtrC62aXru2om6dy5rClyknBj5zHU/edit#
Source code:https://sourceforge.net/projects/syncproj

syncProj is something that was just born on the way of making another project, 
and I suspect that it's far from supporting all visual studio project 
parameters and configurations, but it provides solid code base for future 
development.
So if you're familiar with C# or not familiar, but willing to learn, feel free 
to contact me, I can guide in syncProj code baseand teach you how to improve 
syncProj.
Currently syncProj supports C++, but not C#, as a platform base runs only on 
Windows, and limited to Windows / Android platforms.
What I have checked through Visual studio even currently start to support Linux 
based platforms, so if you want to or need that platform, I can guide you 
through how to add that support into syncProj.
Current code coverage level is 83.23% and I plan to increase that value with 
each future change.
--- Future considerations --
Currently I see syncProj as intermediate solution or a tool - I think in future 
syncProj could actually become built-in into Visual studio itself,as base class 
hierachy - something similar Microsoft guys are trying to achieve right now by 
integrating cmake initial support into Visual studio.
cmake scripting language dialect is more difficult to learn than C#, but of 
course ideal world would be if C++ project would be configured using C++ 
"script" syntax.
But at the moment C# allows on-fly compiling of C# code, but not C++. I think 
that through making C++ modules possible + allowing to compile C++ immediately 
- this would permit to make new variation of syncProj, which would be coded in 
C++ fully, but this is somethingto consider later on, after C++ modules starts 
working in full scale on multiple compilers.

-- Have a nice day!     Tarmo.-- 

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Re: [CMake] cmake analogue - syncProj visual studio generation tool

2018-03-31 Thread Cornelis Bockemühl
Hello Tarmo,

Reading this on the CMake mailing list I am first of all asking myself:
Why should I go for such a certainly nice alternative if I already have
CMake?

At the same time I think that _answering_ this question is probably not
a subject that fits into the CMake mailing list because it is obviously
for CMake issues, not ads for alternatives. So in this sense my
question is rhetoric only... ;-) Providing a link to further
documentation (like you are doing!) is certainly enough here - and I
can see that there is the one or other function that CMake does not
offer.

I am not asking _why_ you are writing this at all! If you are doing
this in your free time I understand 100% the fun it is to re-invent the
one or other wheel: I did that many times in the past, so I assume that
I understand pretty well...

On the other hand: Just think about the fact that CMake is indeed Open
Source! It means not more and not less than that nobody is constrained
to the functionality that some "gods" are offering (like it is the case
with the MS Visual Studio - mostly), but you would be able to add the
things that you are missing and build on the many available features
that others have implemented so far - and which you will have to
rewrite for your project from scratch.

In other words: Standing on the shoulders of a giant gives you a
phantastic view and lets you feel like you are a giant yourself! ;-)

So in short: Thanks for the free offer, but I don't need it because I
have CMake!

Regards,
Cornelis

Am Samstag, den 31.03.2018, 08:19 + schrieb Tarmo Pikaro via CMake:
> Hi !
> 
> 
> > On my own free time I've managed to create tool similar to cmake -
command line tool called syncProj.
> 
> 
> > > Currently syncProj is aiming also for portability, but it currently
has narrower list of supported platforms - supported platforms are at
this moment only Windows and Android, but
> only Visual studio based.
> 
> > > Where cmake is using special kind of language, syncProj uses C#
programming language as a base, and because of this allows full
support for
> > syncProj C# script code syntax highlighting, intellisense and full
debug support.
> 
> Documentation:
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C1YrbFUVpTBXajbtrC62aXru2om6dy5rC
lyknBj5zHU/edit#
> 
> 
> Source code:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/syncproj
> 
> > syncProj is something that was just born on the way of making another
project, and I suspect that it's far from supporting 
> > all visual studio project parameters and configurations, but it
provides solid code base for future development.
> 
> > So if you're familiar with C# or not familiar, but willing to learn,
feel free to contact me, I can guide in syncProj code base
> and teach you how to improve syncProj.
> 
> > Currently syncProj supports C++, but not C#, as a platform base runs
only on Windows, and limited to Windows / Android platforms.
> 
> > > What I have checked through Visual studio even currently start to
support Linux based platforms, so if you want to or need that
platform, 
> I can guide you through how to add that support into syncProj.
> 
> > Current code coverage level is 83.23% and I plan to increase that
value with each future change.
> 
> --- Future considerations --
> 
> > > Currently I see syncProj as intermediate solution or a tool - I think
in future syncProj could actually become built-in into Visual studio
itself,
> > > as base class hierachy - something similar Microsoft guys are trying
to achieve right now by integrating cmake initial support into Visual
studio.
> 
> > > cmake scripting language dialect is more difficult to learn than C#,
but of course ideal world would be if C++ project would be
configured 
> using C++ "script" syntax.
> 
> > But at the moment C# allows on-fly compiling of C# code, but not C++.
I think that through making C++ modules possible + 
> > > allowing to compile C++ immediately - this would permit to make new
variation of syncProj, which would be coded in C++ fully, but this is
something
> > to consider later on, after C++ modules starts working in full scale
on multiple compilers.
> 
> 
> --Have a nice day!     Tarmo.
> 
> 
-- 

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Re: [CMake] cmake analogue - syncProj visual studio generation tool

2018-03-31 Thread Tarmo Pikaro via CMake
Hi !
> Reading this on the CMake mailing list I am first of all asking myself: Why 
>should I go for such a certainly nice alternative if I already have CMake?
Basically once new tool is created,  tool establish it's own community around 
it - and like with religion, it's difficult to turn religious people around or 
convince them to use other tool. 
Key advantage of syncProj, is that as scripting language youwill use full 
dialect of C# - that means you can read / write files using normal C# language, 
you can probe anything you want,from files or from registry, and you have 
built-in RegEx if you need to parse or extract anything what is needed.Also any 
version file generation, or any file generation is also relatively simple - use 
StringBuilder (C#, built-in).Xml or Json parsing is also simple, also built in.
But I think main key advantage over cmake is ability to debug project 
generation script itself, and having full supportfor intellisense (offered by 
Visual studio).
> On the other hand: Just think about the fact that CMake is indeed Open Source!
Also syncProj is fully open source code - I haven't placed any license, but I 
will add MIT license later on.
> In other words: Standing on the shoulders of a giant gives you a phantastic 
> view and lets you feel like you are a giant yourself! ;-)> So in short: 
> Thanks for the free offer, but I don't need it because I have CMake!

I would prefer to avoid using different associations or getting emotional in 
this chat. syncProj is a small tool, my own prototype.Even thus it's small, it 
can do much more already what cmake cannot do.
Want to use it - use it, don't want to use it - then don't use it. It's a 
simple like that.
I would prefer not to fight against cmake, but maybe check what we could have 
in common (maybe unit / integration testing ?).My vision is to have C++ as a 
base code in syncProj, but I will probably need C++ 2018 - ... features. 
-- Have a nice day!     Tarmo.

  From: Cornelis Bockemühl 
 To: Tarmo Pikaro ; "cmake@cmake.org"  
 Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [CMake] cmake analogue - syncProj visual studio generation tool
   
Hello Tarmo,
Reading this on the CMake mailing list I am first of all asking myself: Why 
should I go for such a certainly nice alternative if I already have CMake?
At the same time I think that _answering_ this question is probably not a 
subject that fits into the CMake mailing list because it is obviously for CMake 
issues, not ads for alternatives. So in this sense my question is rhetoric 
only... ;-) Providing a link to further documentation (like you are doing!) is 
certainly enough here - and I can see that there is the one or other function 
that CMake does not offer.
I am not asking _why_ you are writing this at all! If you are doing this in 
your free time I understand 100% the fun it is to re-invent the one or other 
wheel: I did that many times in the past, so I assume that I understand pretty 
well...
On the other hand: Just think about the fact that CMake is indeed Open Source! 
It means not more and not less than that nobody is constrained to the 
functionality that some "gods" are offering (like it is the case with the MS 
Visual Studio - mostly), but you would be able to add the things that you are 
missing and build on the many available features that others have implemented 
so far - and which you will have to rewrite for your project from scratch.
In other words: Standing on the shoulders of a giant gives you a phantastic 
view and lets you feel like you are a giant yourself! ;-)
So in short: Thanks for the free offer, but I don't need it because I have 
CMake!
Regards,Cornelis
Am Samstag, den 31.03.2018, 08:19 + schrieb Tarmo Pikaro via CMake:
Hi !
On my own free time I've managed to create tool similar to cmake - command line 
tool called syncProj.
Currently syncProj is aiming also for portability, but it currently has 
narrower list of supported platforms - supported platforms are at this moment 
only Windows and Android, butonly Visual studio based.
Where cmake is using special kind of language, syncProj uses C# programming 
language as a base, and because of this allows full support forsyncProj C# 
script code syntax highlighting, intellisense and full debug support.
Documentation:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C1YrbFUVpTBXajbtrC62aXru2om6dy5rClyknBj5zHU/edit#
Source code:https://sourceforge.net/projects/syncproj

syncProj is something that was just born on the way of making another project, 
and I suspect that it's far from supporting all visual studio project 
parameters and configurations, but it provides solid code base for future 
development.
So if you're familiar with C# or not familiar, but willing to learn, feel free 
to contact me, I can guide in syncProj code baseand teach you how to improve 
syncProj.
Currently syncProj supports C++, but not C#, as a platform base runs only on 
Windows, and limited to Windows / Android platforms.
What I h