Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org
Am Mittwoch, 24. April 2013, 17:53:28 schrieb David Cole: > Sure, but this is in web page text only meant to be read by human beings, > not in some parse-able data that’s actually important for anything. The confusion probably comes from the fact, that U.S. date format is usually separated by '/' and not by '.', so 7/9/2012 instead of 7.9.2012. If it's meant for humans, writing "July 9, 2012" usually also solves that problem. HS -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:53:28 +, David Cole said: >Sure, but this is in web page text only meant to be read by human >beings, not in some parse-able data that’s actually important for anything. But human beings are confused by ambiguous dates, not just computers. ISO dates are the way to go! Cheers, -- Sean McBride, B. Eng s...@rogue-research.com Rogue Researchwww.rogue-research.com Mac Software Developer Montréal, Québec, Canada -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org
On Wednesday 24 April 2013, David Cole wrote: > Sure, but this is in web page text only meant to be read by human beings, > not in some parse-able data that’s actually important for anything. writing the name of the month usually also helps :-) Alex -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org
Sure, but this is in web page text only meant to be read by human beings, not in some parse-able data that’s actually important for anything. From: Alan W. Irwin Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:20 AM To: David Cole Cc: cmake@cmake.org; Rolf Eike Beer On 2013-04-24 12:02- David Cole wrote: > Hey, hey, now. > > > Both orderings are reasonable translations of spoken word conventions into a > numerical representation. Just because we say “April 24th” rather than “24th > of April” doesn’t make it idiotic... > > > Be nice. We’re sensitive over here. Hi David: My own feeling is civil dates are way too idiosyncratic to be used in conjunction with anything (such as software releases) that are to be used internationally. Fortunately there is an alternative which almost everybody understands at first glance which are ISO dates (-MM-DD, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_dates). For this reason I always use ISO dates whenever possible. For example, my alpine mailer (and most software that expresses dates) has a configurable option to use ISO dates (see the date/time above just before David's name which was generated automatically in ISO form by alpine). I assume Kitware already uses ISO dates in a lot of places so when Kitware users find an exception as now, I hope Kitware fixes that issue. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net); the Time Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net); PLplot scientific plotting software package (plplot.sf.net); the libLASi project (unifont.org/lasi); the Loads of Linux Links project (loll.sf.net); and the Linux Brochure Project (lbproject.sf.net). __ Linux-powered Science __-- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org
On 2013-04-24 08:31-0400 Zack Galbreath wrote: Relevant xkcd: http://xkcd.com/1179/ Hi Zack: I got a big chuckle out of that, and it is a great response concerning ISO versus non-ISO dates! Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net); the Time Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net); PLplot scientific plotting software package (plplot.sf.net); the libLASi project (unifont.org/lasi); the Loads of Linux Links project (loll.sf.net); and the Linux Brochure Project (lbproject.sf.net). __ Linux-powered Science __ -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org
On 2013-04-24 12:02- David Cole wrote: Hey, hey, now. Both orderings are reasonable translations of spoken word conventions into a numerical representation. Just because we say “April 24th” rather than “24th of April” doesn’t make it idiotic... Be nice. We’re sensitive over here. Hi David: My own feeling is civil dates are way too idiosyncratic to be used in conjunction with anything (such as software releases) that are to be used internationally. Fortunately there is an alternative which almost everybody understands at first glance which are ISO dates (-MM-DD, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_dates). For this reason I always use ISO dates whenever possible. For example, my alpine mailer (and most software that expresses dates) has a configurable option to use ISO dates (see the date/time above just before David's name which was generated automatically in ISO form by alpine). I assume Kitware already uses ISO dates in a lot of places so when Kitware users find an exception as now, I hope Kitware fixes that issue. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net); the Time Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net); PLplot scientific plotting software package (plplot.sf.net); the libLASi project (unifont.org/lasi); the Loads of Linux Links project (loll.sf.net); and the Linux Brochure Project (lbproject.sf.net). __ Linux-powered Science __ -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org
Relevant xkcd: http://xkcd.com/1179/ -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org
Hey, hey, now. Both orderings are reasonable translations of spoken word conventions into a numerical representation. Just because we say “April 24th” rather than “24th of April” doesn’t make it idiotic... Be nice. We’re sensitive over here. 😉 From: Rolf Eike Beer Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:19 AM To: cmake@cmake.org Am 24.04.2013 11:49, schrieb Hendrik Sattler: > Hi, > > seems the time string in the news section need a fix: > 11.07.2012 CMake 2.8.10 Just Released > 08.09.2012 CMake 2.8.9 is Now Available! > 07.18.2012 Kitware Announces New Fall Courses > 04.19.2012 CMake 2.8.8 is Now Available > 03.02.2012 CDash 2.0.2 Now Available > > The dotted date notation with the year at the end indicates the format > DD.MM. > but there are only 12 month ;-) This is the idiotic American date format which changes the direction in the middle of the date. It's MM.DD.. Eike -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake-- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org
Am 24.04.2013 11:49, schrieb Hendrik Sattler: Hi, seems the time string in the news section need a fix: 11.07.2012 CMake 2.8.10 Just Released 08.09.2012 CMake 2.8.9 is Now Available! 07.18.2012 Kitware Announces New Fall Courses 04.19.2012 CMake 2.8.8 is Now Available 03.02.2012 CDash 2.0.2 Now Available The dotted date notation with the year at the end indicates the format DD.MM. but there are only 12 month ;-) This is the idiotic American date format which changes the direction in the middle of the date. It's MM.DD.. Eike -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
[CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org
Hi, seems the time string in the news section need a fix: 11.07.2012 CMake 2.8.10 Just Released 08.09.2012 CMake 2.8.9 is Now Available! 07.18.2012 Kitware Announces New Fall Courses 04.19.2012 CMake 2.8.8 is Now Available 03.02.2012 CDash 2.0.2 Now Available The dotted date notation with the year at the end indicates the format DD.MM. but there are only 12 month ;-) Regards, HS -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake