Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org

2013-04-25 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 24. April 2013, 17:53:28 schrieb David Cole:
> Sure, but this is in web page text only meant to be read by human beings,
> not in some parse-able data that’s actually important for anything.

The confusion probably comes from the fact, that U.S. date format is usually 
separated by '/' and not by '.', so 7/9/2012 instead of 7.9.2012. If it's 
meant for humans, writing "July 9, 2012" usually also solves that problem.

HS
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Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org

2013-04-24 Thread Sean McBride
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:53:28 +, David Cole said:

>Sure, but this is in web page text only meant to be read by human
>beings, not in some parse-able data that’s actually important for anything.

But human beings are confused by ambiguous dates, not just computers.  ISO 
dates are the way to go!

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Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org

2013-04-24 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Wednesday 24 April 2013, David Cole wrote:
> Sure, but this is in web page text only meant to be read by human beings,
> not in some parse-able data that’s actually important for anything.


writing the name of the month usually also helps :-)

Alex
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Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org

2013-04-24 Thread David Cole
Sure, but this is in web page text only meant to be read by human beings, not 
in some parse-able data that’s actually important for anything.




From: Alan W. Irwin
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎April‎ ‎24‎, ‎2013 ‎11‎:‎20‎ ‎AM
To: David Cole
Cc: cmake@cmake.org; Rolf Eike Beer

On 2013-04-24 12:02- David Cole wrote:

> Hey, hey, now.
>
>
> Both orderings are reasonable translations of spoken word conventions into a 
> numerical representation. Just because we say “April 24th” rather than “24th 
> of April” doesn’t make it idiotic...
>
>
> Be nice. We’re sensitive over here.

Hi David:

My own feeling is civil dates are way too idiosyncratic to be
used in conjunction with anything (such as software releases)
that are to be used internationally.

Fortunately there is an alternative which almost everybody understands
at first glance which are ISO dates (-MM-DD, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_dates).  For this reason I always use
ISO dates whenever possible.  For example, my alpine mailer (and most
software that expresses dates) has a configurable option to use ISO
dates (see the date/time above just before David's name which was
generated automatically in ISO form by alpine).  I assume Kitware
already uses ISO dates in a lot of places so when Kitware users find
an exception as now, I hope Kitware fixes that issue.

Alan
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Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org

2013-04-24 Thread Alan W. Irwin

On 2013-04-24 08:31-0400 Zack Galbreath wrote:


Relevant xkcd:
http://xkcd.com/1179/


Hi Zack:

I got a big chuckle out of that, and it is a great
response concerning ISO versus non-ISO dates!

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Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net); PLplot scientific plotting
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Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org

2013-04-24 Thread Alan W. Irwin

On 2013-04-24 12:02- David Cole wrote:


Hey, hey, now.


Both orderings are reasonable translations of spoken word conventions into a 
numerical representation. Just because we say “April 24th” rather than “24th of 
April” doesn’t make it idiotic...


Be nice. We’re sensitive over here.


Hi David:

My own feeling is civil dates are way too idiosyncratic to be
used in conjunction with anything (such as software releases)
that are to be used internationally.

Fortunately there is an alternative which almost everybody understands
at first glance which are ISO dates (-MM-DD, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_dates).  For this reason I always use
ISO dates whenever possible.  For example, my alpine mailer (and most
software that expresses dates) has a configurable option to use ISO
dates (see the date/time above just before David's name which was
generated automatically in ISO form by alpine).  I assume Kitware
already uses ISO dates in a lot of places so when Kitware users find
an exception as now, I hope Kitware fixes that issue.

Alan
__
Alan W. Irwin

Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy,
University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca).

Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state
implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net); the Time
Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net); PLplot scientific plotting
software package (plplot.sf.net); the libLASi project
(unifont.org/lasi); the Loads of Linux Links project (loll.sf.net);
and the Linux Brochure Project (lbproject.sf.net).
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Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org

2013-04-24 Thread Zack Galbreath

Relevant xkcd:
http://xkcd.com/1179/
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Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org

2013-04-24 Thread David Cole
Hey, hey, now.


Both orderings are reasonable translations of spoken word conventions into a 
numerical representation. Just because we say “April 24th” rather than “24th of 
April” doesn’t make it idiotic...


Be nice. We’re sensitive over here.



😉





From: Rolf Eike Beer
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎April‎ ‎24‎, ‎2013 ‎6‎:‎19‎ ‎AM
To: cmake@cmake.org

Am 24.04.2013 11:49, schrieb Hendrik Sattler:
> Hi,
> 
> seems the time string in the news section need a fix:
> 11.07.2012 CMake 2.8.10 Just Released
> 08.09.2012 CMake 2.8.9 is Now Available!
> 07.18.2012 Kitware Announces New Fall Courses
> 04.19.2012 CMake 2.8.8 is Now Available
> 03.02.2012 CDash 2.0.2 Now Available
> 
> The dotted date notation with the year at the end indicates the format
> DD.MM.
> but there are only 12 month ;-)

This is the idiotic American date format which changes the direction in 
the middle of the date. It's MM.DD..

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Re: [CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org

2013-04-24 Thread Rolf Eike Beer

Am 24.04.2013 11:49, schrieb Hendrik Sattler:

Hi,

seems the time string in the news section need a fix:
11.07.2012 CMake 2.8.10 Just Released
08.09.2012 CMake 2.8.9 is Now Available!
07.18.2012 Kitware Announces New Fall Courses
04.19.2012 CMake 2.8.8 is Now Available
03.02.2012 CDash 2.0.2 Now Available

The dotted date notation with the year at the end indicates the format
DD.MM.
but there are only 12 month ;-)


This is the idiotic American date format which changes the direction in 
the middle of the date. It's MM.DD..


Eike
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[CMake] Date issue on www.cmake.org

2013-04-24 Thread Hendrik Sattler

Hi,

seems the time string in the news section need a fix:
11.07.2012 CMake 2.8.10 Just Released
08.09.2012 CMake 2.8.9 is Now Available!
07.18.2012 Kitware Announces New Fall Courses
04.19.2012 CMake 2.8.8 is Now Available
03.02.2012 CDash 2.0.2 Now Available

The dotted date notation with the year at the end indicates the format
DD.MM.
but there are only 12 month ;-)

Regards,

HS

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