Re: [CMake] VC2010 Express crashing
From: cmake-boun...@cmake.org [mailto:cmake-boun...@cmake.org] On Behalf Of Robert Dailey Sent: Dienstag, 22. November 2011 14:33 To: David Cole Cc: CMake ML Subject: Re: [CMake] VC2010 Express crashing No problem. I'll send a crash report to MS and see what I can figure out. I assume I need to report the crash on the MSDN forums? Never reported a MS bug before so not sure. You can report bugs here <https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/CreateFeedback.aspx> https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/CreateFeedback.aspx You may need to register/login to submit the bug. Currently there are 2 different forms where you can submit it , use "Visual Studio, .NET and Silverlight" form, not "Roslyn CTP" one. Vladislav -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] VC2010 Express crashing
No problem. I'll send a crash report to MS and see what I can figure out. I assume I need to report the crash on the MSDN forums? Never reported a MS bug before so not sure. Thanks for the help everyone. - Robert Dailey On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:52 AM, David Cole wrote: > I'm sorry if that sounded flippant... but I'm 100% serious. I used to > work there, and they take the crash reports very seriously, and they > actually do get the majority of them fixed eventually. But if you > don't send them in, then they don't know about them. > > Also: I've simply never heard this complaint before, so I'd be > surprised if it was CMake's fault. > > Having said all of this, though, please do send us steps so that we > can reproduce the problem, or possibly, figure out if there's > something wrong with the generated files that can be changed. If we > can incorporate a work-around into CMake, then we are happy to do so. > We have work-arounds in there for far less serious bugs than > complete/100% reproducible crashing bugs... > > > Thanks, > David > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Robert Dailey wrote: > > Yes it is 100% reproducible. > > I don't know if telling someone to send reports to Microsoft and have > them > > fix the problem is the most reasonable solution. > > > > - > > Robert Dailey > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:18 PM, David Cole > wrote: > >> > >> Submit/send your crash reports to Microsoft so they can fix it... > >> > >> I haven't heard of a problem like this. Is it 100% reproducible? (i.e. > >> does it happen every time you do this?) > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Robert Dailey > wrote: > >> > Unfortunately I don't have a whole lot of details to share here, so > I'm > >> > hoping someone can tell me what steps I can take to debug this issue. > >> > I generated about 120 projects in a VC2010 Express solution and opened > >> > it. > >> > Everything opened fine. I pick any project in the solution, > right-click > >> > it, > >> > and select "Build"... Visual Studio crashes. > >> > I'm running Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and CMake 2.8.6. > >> > If I generate for VS7.1 and VS9 using the same scripts, visual studio > >> > does > >> > not crash in those versions and builds just fine. Note however that I > am > >> > not > >> > using the express versions in those cases. > >> > > >> > - > >> > Robert Dailey > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Powered by www.kitware.com > >> > > >> > Visit other Kitware open-source projects at > >> > http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html > >> > > >> > Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: > >> > http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ > >> > > >> > Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: > >> > http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake > >> > > > > > > -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] VC2010 Express crashing
I'm sorry if that sounded flippant... but I'm 100% serious. I used to work there, and they take the crash reports very seriously, and they actually do get the majority of them fixed eventually. But if you don't send them in, then they don't know about them. Also: I've simply never heard this complaint before, so I'd be surprised if it was CMake's fault. Having said all of this, though, please do send us steps so that we can reproduce the problem, or possibly, figure out if there's something wrong with the generated files that can be changed. If we can incorporate a work-around into CMake, then we are happy to do so. We have work-arounds in there for far less serious bugs than complete/100% reproducible crashing bugs... Thanks, David On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Robert Dailey wrote: > Yes it is 100% reproducible. > I don't know if telling someone to send reports to Microsoft and have them > fix the problem is the most reasonable solution. > > - > Robert Dailey > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:18 PM, David Cole wrote: >> >> Submit/send your crash reports to Microsoft so they can fix it... >> >> I haven't heard of a problem like this. Is it 100% reproducible? (i.e. >> does it happen every time you do this?) >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Robert Dailey wrote: >> > Unfortunately I don't have a whole lot of details to share here, so I'm >> > hoping someone can tell me what steps I can take to debug this issue. >> > I generated about 120 projects in a VC2010 Express solution and opened >> > it. >> > Everything opened fine. I pick any project in the solution, right-click >> > it, >> > and select "Build"... Visual Studio crashes. >> > I'm running Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and CMake 2.8.6. >> > If I generate for VS7.1 and VS9 using the same scripts, visual studio >> > does >> > not crash in those versions and builds just fine. Note however that I am >> > not >> > using the express versions in those cases. >> > >> > - >> > Robert Dailey >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Powered by www.kitware.com >> > >> > Visit other Kitware open-source projects at >> > http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html >> > >> > Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: >> > http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ >> > >> > Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: >> > http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake >> > > > -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] VC2010 Express crashing
On 21.11.11 17:37:14, Robert Dailey wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:32 PM, John Drescher wrote: > > > > Yes it is 100% reproducible. > > > I don't know if telling someone to send reports to Microsoft and have > > them > > > fix the problem is the most reasonable solution. > > > > > > > Isn't it a Microsoft bug? I mean even if the sln file was somehow > > wrong Visual Studio should not crash when using it. > > > I agree but if there is a workaround that can be used, I prefer that in the > meantime since obviously whatever is causing the problem probably won't be > fixed in the next 6 months, if at all. > > For example, if CMake is generating something that doesn't mix well with VC > 2010 Express, it would be nice to know what that is so maybe I can work > around the issue. > > I can't think of any way to debug this problem though. You could try disabling some of your 120 projects if they don't have too many interdependencies and see wether the resulting solution file still crashes VS. This would maybe allow you to find out which cmake commands lead to the solution that crashes VS. Andreas -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] VC2010 Express crashing
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:32 PM, John Drescher wrote: > > Yes it is 100% reproducible. > > I don't know if telling someone to send reports to Microsoft and have > them > > fix the problem is the most reasonable solution. > > > > Isn't it a Microsoft bug? I mean even if the sln file was somehow > wrong Visual Studio should not crash when using it. I agree but if there is a workaround that can be used, I prefer that in the meantime since obviously whatever is causing the problem probably won't be fixed in the next 6 months, if at all. For example, if CMake is generating something that doesn't mix well with VC 2010 Express, it would be nice to know what that is so maybe I can work around the issue. I can't think of any way to debug this problem though. -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] VC2010 Express crashing
> Yes it is 100% reproducible. > I don't know if telling someone to send reports to Microsoft and have them > fix the problem is the most reasonable solution. > Isn't it a Microsoft bug? I mean even if the sln file was somehow wrong Visual Studio should not crash when using it. John -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] VC2010 Express crashing
Yes it is 100% reproducible. I don't know if telling someone to send reports to Microsoft and have them fix the problem is the most reasonable solution. - Robert Dailey On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:18 PM, David Cole wrote: > Submit/send your crash reports to Microsoft so they can fix it... > > I haven't heard of a problem like this. Is it 100% reproducible? (i.e. > does it happen every time you do this?) > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Robert Dailey wrote: > > Unfortunately I don't have a whole lot of details to share here, so I'm > > hoping someone can tell me what steps I can take to debug this issue. > > I generated about 120 projects in a VC2010 Express solution and opened > it. > > Everything opened fine. I pick any project in the solution, right-click > it, > > and select "Build"... Visual Studio crashes. > > I'm running Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and CMake 2.8.6. > > If I generate for VS7.1 and VS9 using the same scripts, visual studio > does > > not crash in those versions and builds just fine. Note however that I am > not > > using the express versions in those cases. > > > > - > > Robert Dailey > > > > -- > > > > Powered by www.kitware.com > > > > Visit other Kitware open-source projects at > > http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html > > > > Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: > > http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ > > > > Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: > > http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake > > > -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
Re: [CMake] VC2010 Express crashing
Submit/send your crash reports to Microsoft so they can fix it... I haven't heard of a problem like this. Is it 100% reproducible? (i.e. does it happen every time you do this?) On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Robert Dailey wrote: > Unfortunately I don't have a whole lot of details to share here, so I'm > hoping someone can tell me what steps I can take to debug this issue. > I generated about 120 projects in a VC2010 Express solution and opened it. > Everything opened fine. I pick any project in the solution, right-click it, > and select "Build"... Visual Studio crashes. > I'm running Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and CMake 2.8.6. > If I generate for VS7.1 and VS9 using the same scripts, visual studio does > not crash in those versions and builds just fine. Note however that I am not > using the express versions in those cases. > > - > Robert Dailey > > -- > > Powered by www.kitware.com > > Visit other Kitware open-source projects at > http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html > > Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: > http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ > > Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: > http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake > -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.cmake.org/mailman/listinfo/cmake
