Re: [CMLHope] The wounded Soldier

[Marty Gartenberg]

Funny you should mention insecticides. Gets me wondering about defoliants
specially agent orange. When I was in Vietnam they were spraying it all
over the place and I was really exposed to it. Gets me thinking about all
of the other guys that were there and now are not survivors because all of
the problems they encountered and we all were lied to...

18's,

Marty

On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 10:18 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <
cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Yes great news!!! The only thing I was doing different was donating blood
> and getting tooth X-rays and dental work.  I did live by a farm that
> sprayed insecticides a lot. I had taken a plane trip on which I thought the
> coffee tasted terrible.
> We were very free with insecticides in the 50s.  Who knows???
> We were all exposed but only I got CML.
> What a great warrior you are Marty!!!
> Love ya!!!
>
>
>
> On May 21, 2016, at 9:37 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>
> Hi Kathy,
>
> I actually have had 96 blood transfusions as well as dozens of platelet
> infusions not mention about a dozen Gamagloblin infusions while I was
> having my bone marrow transfusion. Let me explain why. I was born with
> type O+ blood. Since my donor (my sister) was B+ and also a perfect HLA
> match but the only problem was our different blood types. I had to become
> what is called a Chimera. And unlike a solid organ transplant where the
> blood typing must be the same between the donor and that have to be
> reciprocal of each other.
> That is why I had to have so many blood transfusions.
>
> Now it is over twenty seven years later and I had to have a kidney
> transplant and the donor was also a perfect HLA match and even our blood
> types matched. Now one more piece of information. If my Kidney came from a
> living donor then it would be okay to have a blood type of O+ but not from
> a deceased donor.
>
> They are making some progress in mis-matched organ transplants.
>
> So in my case I didn't acquire CML because I didn't have to have all of
> those blood transfusions, I got CML before I got all of the transfusions.
>
> Kathy, I would love to put you into the zero Zavie's list but even though
> I am number 1 on it I am unable to do it unfortunately Zavie is no longer
> with us.
>
> However I am so glad to hear about your progress in getting rid of those
> nasty cells is working so well.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:43 PM, kathy walls 
> wrote:
>
>> Marty
>> Have you heard about one have had mega blood transfusions getting CML?
>> Since 2005 I have over 25 transfusions due to sever blood loss during
>> sugeries? Happy to say now I'm at 0.04 Can I get a Zevia ###
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 21, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Jeanie,
>>
>> It all comes down to something that I wrote about the why's...
>>
>> Why me? or Why not me.
>>
>> You asked since no one in your family ever had Leukemia then why did you?
>> Also why me? Believe me I have tons of information that I have collected
>> for over 27 years and I have stumbled into some of them.
>>
>> Since I have been an Electrical Engineer for most of my life I had to
>> work on many projects concerning very high voltages that also included high
>> amounts of radio frequencies especially from some of the power stations
>> that feed radio and television transmitters.
>>
>> I had some friends that used to work for Con Edison in one of the power
>> sub stations which I had to be involved with from time to time. Whenever I
>> would enter the felicity the hair on my head and arms would stand on edge
>> even though some of those high voltage tunnels required everyone in those
>> high voltage areas had to wear something called a Faraday shield and some
>> of the power coming into that felicity from the main generating station was
>> around 500,000 volts.
>>
>> As it turned out there were six people working in the facility but not
>> every time in those high voltage tunnels, but I guess enough for everyone
>> to have acquired cancer of different kinds, mostly Leukemia AML but also
>> brain, lung and Myelodysplastic Syndrome which proved fatal to all of them
>> except for the one with Myelodysplastic Syndrome which had no cure.
>>
>> Amazingly he seemed to have beaten it without any explanation from the
>> doctor, and I actually recommended him to that doctor because I knew one of
>> the doctors at the time that I had my bone marrow transplant 26 years ago
>> that specialized in Myelodysplastic Syndrome so I asked him does
>> this ever happen? He told me that every once in a while it does happen.
>>
>> That man never returned to working with anything to do with high voltage
>> electricity. Eventually when I moved to Florida we lost contact with each
>> other.
>>
>> There was another article that I read about power lines that ran through
>> the back yards of peoples homes and it was found that a small percentage of

Re: [CMLHope] The wounded Soldier

['Icandoallttc' via CMLHope]

Someone is doing zavie numbers on a Facebook page. I never could find it. Can 
someone post again



> On May 21, 2016, at 1:43 PM, kathy walls  wrote:
> 
> Marty
> Have you heard about one have had mega blood transfusions getting CML? Since 
> 2005 I have over 25 transfusions due to sever blood loss during sugeries? 
> Happy to say now I'm at 0.04 Can I get a Zevia ###
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Jeanie,
>> 
>> It all comes down to something that I wrote about the why's...
>> 
>> Why me? or Why not me.
>> 
>> You asked since no one in your family ever had Leukemia then why did you? 
>> Also why me? Believe me I have tons of information that I have collected for 
>> over 27 years and I have stumbled into some of them.
>> 
>> Since I have been an Electrical Engineer for most of my life I had to work 
>> on many projects concerning very high voltages that also included high 
>> amounts of radio frequencies especially from some of the power stations that 
>> feed radio and television transmitters.
>> 
>> I had some friends that used to work for Con Edison in one of the power sub 
>> stations which I had to be involved with from time to time. Whenever I would 
>> enter the felicity the hair on my head and arms would stand on edge even 
>> though some of those high voltage tunnels required everyone in those high 
>> voltage areas had to wear something called a Faraday shield and some of the 
>> power coming into that felicity from the main generating station was around 
>> 500,000 volts.
>> 
>> As it turned out there were six people working in the facility but not every 
>> time in those high voltage tunnels, but I guess enough for everyone to have 
>> acquired cancer of different kinds, mostly Leukemia AML but also brain, lung 
>> and Myelodysplastic Syndrome which proved fatal to all of them except for 
>> the one with Myelodysplastic Syndrome which had no cure.
>> 
>> Amazingly he seemed to have beaten it without any explanation from the 
>> doctor, and I actually recommended him to that doctor because I knew one of 
>> the doctors at the time that I had my bone marrow transplant 26 years ago 
>> that specialized in Myelodysplastic Syndrome so I asked him does
>> this ever happen? He told me that every once in a while it does happen.
>>  
>> That man never returned to working with anything to do with high voltage 
>> electricity. Eventually when I moved to Florida we lost contact with each 
>> other.
>> 
>> There was another article that I read about power lines that ran through the 
>> back yards of peoples homes and it was found that a small percentage of 
>> those people that lived near any power lines that had about 13,000 volts did 
>> in fact have a higher chance of them getting cancer then those that did not 
>> live near ant power lines.
>> 
>> Also how about what is in the our water or air or the food that we eat and 
>> drink? So let's say that if you are not the one that has the then it May not
>> happen to you. Who knows? Only time may tell?
>> 
>> 18's,
>> 
>> Marty
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 10:49 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Yes Marty I've always wondered why I got leukemia.  I am the youngest of 11 
>>> children and no cancer in family except lung cancer and 1 breast cancer in 
>>> my older sister.  
>>> I didn't even know much about leukemia when I was dx.  
>>> Even with fighting cml for 12 years I have had a full rich life. 
>>> I got to go to the mountains with my daughters and granddaughter.  We 
>>> stayed in a beautiful cabin high in the mountains.  
>>> We toured the Great Smoky Mountains and they are beautiful.  
>>> I am now spending a week with my daughters and we are enjoying our visit. 
>>> Yes we are born and then we die but sickness teaches us to live each day as 
>>> it comes love each other with the time God gives us.  
>>> Blessings to all 
>>> ❤️❤️
>>> 
>>> My Motto: Faith and Pills❤️
>>> With Jeanie 18,s Chi
>>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>> 
 On May 20, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
 
 I was thinking about most of us that have been through a mirage of 
 illnesses, myself included, and in thinking about it I have come to the 
 conclusion  "why me" syndrome. However rather saying this, even though we 
 may be suffering in our own ways why not say "why not me"?.
 In effect anyone that has had any health disturbance/s in their lives are 
 in fact a wounded solider, however, it has also become that wounds heal 
 and this makes us go on.
 I remember two movies that put an impression on me. One was the Shawshank 
 Redemption. One of the characters, Morgan Freeman told an inmate 

Re: [CMLHope] The wounded Soldier

['Icandoallttc' via CMLHope]

Yes great news!!! The only thing I was doing different was donating blood and 
getting tooth X-rays and dental work.  I did live by a farm that sprayed 
insecticides a lot. I had taken a plane trip on which I thought the coffee 
tasted terrible.  
We were very free with insecticides in the 50s.  Who knows???
We were all exposed but only I got CML.  
What a great warrior you are Marty!!! 
Love ya!!!



> On May 21, 2016, at 9:37 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kathy,
> 
> I actually have had 96 blood transfusions as well as dozens of platelet 
> infusions not mention about a dozen Gamagloblin infusions while I was having 
> my bone marrow transfusion. Let me explain why. I was born with type O+ 
> blood. Since my donor (my sister) was B+ and also a perfect HLA match but the 
> only problem was our different blood types. I had to become what is called a 
> Chimera. And unlike a solid organ transplant where the blood typing must be 
> the same between the donor and that have to be reciprocal of each other.
> That is why I had to have so many blood transfusions.  
> 
> Now it is over twenty seven years later and I had to have a kidney transplant 
> and the donor was also a perfect HLA match and even our blood types matched. 
> Now one more piece of information. If my Kidney came from a living donor then 
> it would be okay to have a blood type of O+ but not from a deceased donor.
> 
> They are making some progress in mis-matched organ transplants.
> 
> So in my case I didn't acquire CML because I didn't have to have all of those 
> blood transfusions, I got CML before I got all of the transfusions.
> 
> Kathy, I would love to put you into the zero Zavie's list but even though I 
> am number 1 on it I am unable to do it unfortunately Zavie is no longer with 
> us.  
> 
> However I am so glad to hear about your progress in getting rid of those 
> nasty cells is working so well.
> 
> 18's,
> 
> Marty
> 
>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:43 PM, kathy walls  
>> wrote:
>> Marty
>> Have you heard about one have had mega blood transfusions getting CML? Since 
>> 2005 I have over 25 transfusions due to sever blood loss during sugeries? 
>> Happy to say now I'm at 0.04 Can I get a Zevia ###
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Marty Gartenberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jeanie,
>>> 
>>> It all comes down to something that I wrote about the why's...
>>> 
>>> Why me? or Why not me.
>>> 
>>> You asked since no one in your family ever had Leukemia then why did you? 
>>> Also why me? Believe me I have tons of information that I have collected 
>>> for over 27 years and I have stumbled into some of them.
>>> 
>>> Since I have been an Electrical Engineer for most of my life I had to work 
>>> on many projects concerning very high voltages that also included high 
>>> amounts of radio frequencies especially from some of the power stations 
>>> that feed radio and television transmitters.
>>> 
>>> I had some friends that used to work for Con Edison in one of the power sub 
>>> stations which I had to be involved with from time to time. Whenever I 
>>> would enter the felicity the hair on my head and arms would stand on edge 
>>> even though some of those high voltage tunnels required everyone in those 
>>> high voltage areas had to wear something called a Faraday shield and some 
>>> of the power coming into that felicity from the main generating station was 
>>> around 500,000 volts.
>>> 
>>> As it turned out there were six people working in the facility but not 
>>> every time in those high voltage tunnels, but I guess enough for everyone 
>>> to have acquired cancer of different kinds, mostly Leukemia AML but also 
>>> brain, lung and Myelodysplastic Syndrome which proved fatal to all of them 
>>> except for the one with Myelodysplastic Syndrome which had no cure.
>>> 
>>> Amazingly he seemed to have beaten it without any explanation from the 
>>> doctor, and I actually recommended him to that doctor because I knew one of 
>>> the doctors at the time that I had my bone marrow transplant 26 years ago 
>>> that specialized in Myelodysplastic Syndrome so I asked him does
>>> this ever happen? He told me that every once in a while it does happen.
>>>  
>>> That man never returned to working with anything to do with high voltage 
>>> electricity. Eventually when I moved to Florida we lost contact with each 
>>> other.
>>> 
>>> There was another article that I read about power lines that ran through 
>>> the back yards of peoples homes and it was found that a small percentage of 
>>> those people that lived near any power lines that had about 13,000 volts 
>>> did in fact have a higher chance of them getting cancer then those that did 
>>> not live near ant power lines.
>>> 
>>> Also how about what is in the our water or air or the food that we eat and 
>>> drink? So let's say that if you are not the one that has the then it May not
>>> happen