Stus-List bilge hose thu hull
I just checked my bilge install and I have a total of 3 bilge pumps and 2 of them go to the same thu hull. 1) is a manual Whale style hand pump with a 2 ID corrugated hose which is looped and terminates in a 1.5 thu hull 2) is an automatic Rule Pump with a 1 ID smooth wall hose which terminates in a T-fitting into the 2 hose 3) 3/4 hose feeding an electric diaghramme pump which goes out a fitting on the port side only Now for my question; A. Shouldn\t the thru hull be a 2 B. Shouldn't the hose from the automatic pump be likewise looped? c. What is the purpose of the 3rd pumo? Is this required by some building code? When on Stbd tack, it can be useless... ALEX GIANNELIA CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006 Toronto Ontario ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List bilge hose thu hull
A. Could reduce flow but the pump or hose could be changed from original and cutting a new hole was undesirable. B. Depends on if the t is before or after the loop C. A lot of backup pumps are there just as a back up. If you need it - it will work while level. Alternatively you could probably extend the suction. Diaphragm pumps tend to have pretty good lift. Josh -- When privacy matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com On Aug 21, 2013 4:34 AM, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com wrote: I just checked my bilge install and I have a total of 3 bilge pumps and 2 of them go to the same thu hull. 1) is a manual Whale style hand pump with a 2 ID corrugated hose which is looped and terminates in a 1.5 thu hull 2) is an automatic Rule Pump with a 1 ID smooth wall hose which terminates in a T-fitting into the 2 hose 3) 3/4 hose feeding an electric diaghramme pump which goes out a fitting on the port side only Now for my question; A. Shouldn\t the thru hull be a 2 B. Shouldn't the hose from the automatic pump be likewise looped? c. What is the purpose of the 3rd pumo? Is this required by some building code? When on Stbd tack, it can be useless... ALEX GIANNELIA CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006 Toronto Ontario ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List moving from a CC??
Bob Yes but the Bristol was a beautiful boat! I was on board that boat at RNSYS as well as on board Mirage 24s in the past. I prefer the Bristol Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:00 PM To: Richard Walter; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List moving from a CC?? Richard: I have absolutely no experience with Bristol yachts...but I will share this one storya few weeks back there was a Bristol 41 (I believe it was a 41) here boat now sold and moved out of Halifax. In light to medium to air, a Mirage 24 out sailed the Bristol 41. That's all I have to say! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/08/20 10:59 AM, Richard Walter wrote: Greetings, After almost 10 years aboard INDIGO, our 1978 36-footer, we are considering moving to a different boat. We would like a heavier coastal/bluewater cruiser with more comfort, better tracking, more convenient sail-handling (in-mast or in-boom) and a master stateroom with a centerline berth (which pretty much requires we buy a center cockpit boat). We are looking closely at Bristol yachts; they seem to meet all of our criteria, especially the 43.3 and the 47.7. Does anyone have any experience with Bristols, especially the 43.3 and 47.7? Any other Bristols we should consider? Any other boat brands we should consider? Feel free to contact me off-list so as to not burden Stu'sList with a non-CC topic. sailind...@yahoo.com Thank you, Richard ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Broken Main Sail Slugs
Hi, I have replaced several slugs already, and they are very easy to do.Watch the video on Sailrite for installing an outhaul slug it will show you the proper proceedure which is the same for any sail slug. Go to the link below, and then select the Video tab on the bottom. http://www.sailrite.com/Slug-Coated-Outhaul-15-32 - Paul E. 1979 CC 29 Mk1 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL On Aug 20, 2013, at 9:50 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: From: Knowles Rich r...@sailpower.ca To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:55:24 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Broken Main Sail Slugs Nylon tie wraps work well. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-08-20, at 10:44, OldSteveH oldste...@sympatico.ca wrote: On our recent sailing trip two of the plastic/nylon slugs broke and need to be replaced. I would appreciate comments from others on the possibility of doing this ones self. The slugs are wrapped through their slots with a piece of webbing material which is stitched to the sail and is also melted or 'welded' to itself to attach slug to sail luff. The sail is older but still has good shape (kevlar). I am reluctant to keep spending money on an old sail but it is worth repairing if there is a good DIY solution for a non-sailmaker. I have watched some Youtube video on this but would appreciate comments from the list group. Thanks, Steve Hood S/V Diamond Girl CC 34 Lions Head ON ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Barient 23 ST winches for sale
A friend has a pair of Barient 23 2-speed self tailing winches that he has asked me to sell for him on EBay. I picked them up yesterday, and they seem to be in good condition. Data on I-36.com shows they have a power ratio of 39, and are equivalent to Lewmar or Harken 40s. Before I list them on EBay (he is hoping to get $450 plus shipping for the pair), I thought I would see if anyone on the list can use them. Contact me off list and I can send pictures and particulars. Rick Brass Washington, NC rickbr...@earthlink.net for those of you that get the digest version of the list ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List moving from a CC??
On 2013/08/21 9:21 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote: Mike, I can't believe you would take 'Cisco', with its furling main in the boom, fireplace, luxurious interior, state-of-the-art electronics, etc. over any Mirage 24. Come on, now, tell the truth! Bob Bob Yes but the Bristol was a beautiful boat! I was on board that boat at RNSYS as well as on board Mirage 24s in the past. I prefer the Bristol Mike *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Robert Abbott *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:00 PM *To:* Richard Walter; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List moving from a CC?? Richard: I have absolutely no experience with Bristol yachts...but I will share this one storya few weeks back there was a Bristol 41 (I believe it was a 41) here boat now sold and moved out of Halifax. In light to medium to air, a Mirage 24 out sailed the Bristol 41. That's all I have to say! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List moving from a CC??
We have a Viper in our fleets. The Chesapeake Bay PHRF is 111. In flat water and real light wind, 750 pounds and a big chute is hard to beat. In anything over 12, it planes - a couple of weeks ago in about 15, it was going 15. But, when we had a slightly longer race in choppier water and non planing wind, the Cal 40 was the winner, followed by a J-105, a J-80, a J-30, another J-80 and the Viper. Waves are a problem for the little boat. The Cal and J-80's rate 120 and the J-105 is 87 - 144 for the J-30, which beat the second J-80 by three seconds. It was a straight spinnaker run for four miles for the 'regular' chute guys while the asym folks were jibing all over the place. I don't think I would like to camp in a Viper. Gary 30-1 and J-80 crew - Original Message - From: Chuck S To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:50 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List moving from a CC?? In light wind, a 21 ft Viper 640 led the fleet and beat a CC 33 MkII, my 34R, a 37+, and a fleet of other boats. They advertise Vipers as 35 ft speed in 21 ft trailerable boat. The Bristol 43.3 has a PHRF of 117 while the Bristol 47.7 has a PHRF of 111, not bad for centerboard cruisers. Ted Hood also designed for Gulfstar and Little Harbor. My favorite cruising offshore designs are Hanse for their self tacking jib and maybe Oyster for there breathtaking lines Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ -- From: Robert Abbott robertabb...@eastlink.ca To: Richard Walter sailind...@yahoo.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:00:13 PM Subject: Stus-List moving from a CC?? Richard: I have absolutely no experience with Bristol yachts...but I will share this one storya few weeks back there was a Bristol 41 (I believe it was a 41) here boat now sold and moved out of Halifax. In light to medium to air, a Mirage 24 out sailed the Bristol 41. That's all I have to say! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/08/20 10:59 AM, Richard Walter wrote: Greetings, After almost 10 years aboard INDIGO, our 1978 36-footer, we are considering moving to a different boat. We would like a heavier coastal/bluewater cruiser with more comfort, better tracking, more convenient sail-handling (in-mast or in-boom) and a master stateroom with a centerline berth (which pretty much requires we buy a center cockpit boat). We are looking closely at Bristol yachts; they seem to meet all of our criteria, especially the 43.3 and the 47.7. Does anyone have any experience with Bristols, especially the 43.3 and 47.7? Any other Bristols we should consider? Any other boat brands we should consider? Feel free to contact me off-list so as to not burden Stu'sList with a non-CC topic. sailind...@yahoo.com Thank you, Richard ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List moving from a CC?? - small boat
One of the better small boats you can camp in is a Left Coast Dart. http://cruisingboatdesigns.blogspot.com/2012/09/left-coast-dart_21.html http://www.eskimo.com/~leftcst/iWeb/Left_Coast/The_Dart.html Very nice small boat. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA From: Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I don't think I would like to camp in a Viper. Gary ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List moving from a CC??
Last week a Hylas 70 hit some rocks off close in Maine at about 6 or 7 kts, brought the whole rig down. Seems like something the designers should factor in. It doesn't seem like that should happen either. http://www.penbaypilot.com/article/coast-guard-investigates-penobscot-bay-ya cht-rock-crash/18669 Altho, I would rather have the bottom third gone than the whole rudder gone or bound up. If they are looking at that like a shear pin or something. Bill Coleman CC 39 -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:45 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List moving from a CC?? In the 2006 Caribbean 1500 and ARC rallies, 3 Hylas 54's suffered rudder failure at sea. A buddy of mine was on one of them and got to practice his emergency steering skills all the way to Tortola. No fun in that. Google Hylas 54 Rudder Failure and you'll see lots of info on it. Then make your own decision as to whether that's a boat you want to own I'll stick to my skeg hung rudder. Cheers Colin st.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List moving from a CC??
Gary; Are you talking about a Viper 640? At only 21 feet long I would not be surprised if chop would kill the speed. We have a Viper 830 locally (Built by Thompson, the designer, not by the builders of the 640). NC PHRF is 78, so Chessie PHRF would be around 81. Fast and sleek sportboat, but still not much of a boat for camping. Now if I were looking for a sleek, fast, camp-able, trailerable sportboat, I’d look at a Thompson 30. Chessie PHRF is 30 on Wairre, the boat that races up there. Only 2 feet longer than the 830 but with a workable interior. Lifting deep keel with a bulb, and outboard in a well under the cockpit that comes up out of the water so the well can have a solid floor to fair the hull. Slick boat. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:46 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List moving from a CC?? We have a Viper in our fleets. The Chesapeake Bay PHRF is 111. In flat water and real light wind, 750 pounds and a big chute is hard to beat. In anything over 12, it planes - a couple of weeks ago in about 15, it was going 15. But, when we had a slightly longer race in choppier water and non planing wind, the Cal 40 was the winner, followed by a J-105, a J-80, a J-30, another J-80 and the Viper. Waves are a problem for the little boat. The Cal and J-80's rate 120 and the J-105 is 87 - 144 for the J-30, which beat the second J-80 by three seconds. It was a straight spinnaker run for four miles for the 'regular' chute guys while the asym folks were jibing all over the place. I don't think I would like to camp in a Viper. Gary 30-1 and J-80 crew ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List moving from a CC??
Rick, I was just commenting on the diversity of the PHRF boats that are allowed. A Viper or J-29 with the same 111 handicap? The sportboats are tough to beat in our little flat water venue. I find a 30-1 is just fine as a camper. Gary - Original Message - From: Rick Brass To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List moving from a CC?? Gary; Are you talking about a Viper 640? At only 21 feet long I would not be surprised if chop would kill the speed. We have a Viper 830 locally (Built by Thompson, the designer, not by the builders of the 640). NC PHRF is 78, so Chessie PHRF would be around 81. Fast and sleek sportboat, but still not much of a boat for camping. Now if I were looking for a sleek, fast, camp-able, trailerable sportboat, I’d look at a Thompson 30. Chessie PHRF is 30 on Wairre, the boat that races up there. Only 2 feet longer than the 830 but with a workable interior. Lifting deep keel with a bulb, and outboard in a well under the cockpit that comes up out of the water so the well can have a solid floor to fair the hull. Slick boat. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:46 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List moving from a CC?? We have a Viper in our fleets. The Chesapeake Bay PHRF is 111. In flat water and real light wind, 750 pounds and a big chute is hard to beat. In anything over 12, it planes - a couple of weeks ago in about 15, it was going 15. But, when we had a slightly longer race in choppier water and non planing wind, the Cal 40 was the winner, followed by a J-105, a J-80, a J-30, another J-80 and the Viper. Waves are a problem for the little boat. The Cal and J-80's rate 120 and the J-105 is 87 - 144 for the J-30, which beat the second J-80 by three seconds. It was a straight spinnaker run for four miles for the 'regular' chute guys while the asym folks were jibing all over the place. I don't think I would like to camp in a Viper. Gary 30-1 and J-80 crew -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List moving from a CC??
That's one of the reasons a Caliber 40LRC is on my short wish list. I love the pullman arrangement, and having a head right at the bottom of the companionway. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Aug 20, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Dave Godwin dave.god...@me.com wrote: I'd put in my vote for a Pullman berth boat but they don't seem to be very widely available. Works pretty well underway and very well at anchor. The two boats that I've spent offshore time on that had them were a Passport 43 and interestingly, an Oyster 48 Lightwave (Carl Schumacher design) center cockpit that had a Pullman berth in the aft/stateroom cabin. If I were upgrading I would be looking for that setup. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List CC 40 in Florida
Looking to move up? Go for it! Looks in nice condition. http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1981-C-%26amp%3B-C-Centerboard-sloop-102074080 Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List 37+ Backstay
Hi would you post this? Thanks! This list is very helpful. We are recent owners of a 1990 37+. I put some backstay on while motorsailing this weekend and managed to partially pull the ridiculously poorly engineered mount.I have some ideas on repair-grind off the bulge, big backing plate and a proper chain plate tang- but I was wondering what others have done. Thanks Richard H. Hulit, Jr. CC37+ Kindred Greenwich, CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 37+ Backstay
On Aug 21, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Rhhulit rhhu...@optonline.net wrote: Hi would you post this? Thanks! This list is very helpful. We are recent owners of a 1990 37+. I put some backstay on while motorsailing this weekend and managed to partially pull the ridiculously poorly engineered mount.I have some ideas on repair-grind off the bulge, big backing plate and a proper chain plate tang- but I was wondering what others have done. Thanks Richard H. Hulit, Jr. CC37+ Kindred Greenwich, CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 37+ Backstay
I do recall seeing something about this on a 37+ owners individual web site. Do a search and you may find it. If not, hopefully he is still on this list. John Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Rhhulit rhhu...@optonline.net wrote: Hi would you post this? Thanks! This list is very helpful. We are recent owners of a 1990 37+. I put some backstay on while motorsailing this weekend and managed to partially pull the ridiculously poorly engineered mount.I have some ideas on repair-grind off the bulge, big backing plate and a proper chain plate tang- but I was wondering what others have done. Thanks Richard H. Hulit, Jr. CC37+ Kindred Greenwich, CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 37+ Backstay
Its not Blue Pearl is it? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD -- When privacy matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com On Aug 21, 2013 6:44 PM, Rhhulit rhhu...@optonline.net wrote: Hi would you post this? Thanks! This list is very helpful. We are recent owners of a 1990 37+. I put some backstay on while motorsailing this weekend and managed to partially pull the ridiculously poorly engineered mount.I have some ideas on repair-grind off the bulge, big backing plate and a proper chain plate tang- but I was wondering what others have done. Thanks Richard H. Hulit, Jr. CC37+ Kindred Greenwich, CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 37+ Backstay
PO did some pretty creative reinforcements. I'll try to remember to take pictures. I do think backstay tangs extending down the transom is a good solution. Josh -- When privacy matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com On Aug 21, 2013 6:44 PM, Rhhulit rhhu...@optonline.net wrote: Hi would you post this? Thanks! This list is very helpful. We are recent owners of a 1990 37+. I put some backstay on while motorsailing this weekend and managed to partially pull the ridiculously poorly engineered mount.I have some ideas on repair-grind off the bulge, big backing plate and a proper chain plate tang- but I was wondering what others have done. Thanks Richard H. Hulit, Jr. CC37+ Kindred Greenwich, CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List moving from a CC??
The Viper is a different experience. It's a three man windsurfer. And I doubt any have ever sailed from Annapolis to Newport. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:45:37 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List moving from a CC?? We have a Viper in our fleets. The Chesapeake Bay PHRF is 111. In flat water and real light wind, 750 pounds and a big chute is hard to beat. In anything over 12, it planes - a couple of weeks ago in about 15, it was going 15. But, when we had a slightly longer race in choppier water and non planing wind, the Cal 40 was the winner, followed by a J-105, a J-80, a J-30, another J-80 and the Viper. Waves are a problem for the little boat. The Cal and J-80's rate 120 and the J-105 is 87 - 144 for the J-30, which beat the second J-80 by three seconds. It was a straight spinnaker run for four miles for the 'regular' chute guys while the asym folks were jibing all over the place. I don't think I would like to camp in a Viper. Gary 30-1 and J-80 crew - Original Message - From: Chuck S To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:50 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List moving from a CC?? In light wind , a 21 ft Viper 640 led the fleet and beat a CC 33 MkII, my 34R, a 37+, and a fleet of other boats. They advertise Vipers as 35 ft speed in 21 ft trailerable boat. The Bristol 43.3 has a PHRF of 117 while the Bristol 47.7 has a PHRF of 111, not bad for centerboard cruisers. Ted Hood also designed for Gulfstar and Little Harbor . My favorite cruising offshore designs are Hanse for their self tacking jib and maybe Oyster for there breathtaking lines Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: Robert Abbott robertabb...@eastlink.ca To: Richard Walter sailind...@yahoo.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:00:13 PM Subject: Stus-List moving from a CC?? Richard: I have absolutely no experience with Bristol yachts...but I will share this one storya few weeks back there was a Bristol 41 (I believe it was a 41) here boat now sold and moved out of Halifax. In light to medium to air, a Mirage 24 out sailed the Bristol 41. That's all I have to say! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/08/20 10:59 AM, Richard Walter wrote: blockquote Greetings, After almost 10 years aboard INDIGO, our 1978 36-footer, we are considering moving to a different boat. We would like a heavier coastal/bluewater cruiser with more comfort, better tracking, more convenient sail-handling (in-mast or in-boom) and a master stateroom with a centerline berth (which pretty much requires we buy a center cockpit boat). We are looking closely at Bristol yachts; they seem to meet all of our criteria, especially the 43.3 and the 47.7. Does anyone have any experience with Bristols, especially the 43.3 and 47.7? Any other Bristols we should consider? Any other boat brands we should consider? Feel free to contact me off-list so as to not burden Stu'sList with a non-CC topic. sailind...@yahoo.com Thank you, Richard ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com /blockquote ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
