Re: Stus-List sail question
Joe, That matches my thinking also. I'd consider a 125% or 130% sail designed to be reefed to 100 or 110%. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:53:53 AM Subject: Stus-List sail question My furling jib is utterly beat. I think a bedsheet would have more shape. So what size say you all for a replacement? I am thinking going a little small, say 130%, and flying the chute asym style for light air off the wind. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question
Well looks like PSS finally listened to Compass Marine: http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/pss_shaft_seal The point being I expect the shaft collar he uses is orders of magnitude cheaper than the one PSS supplies. I would consider relying on zincs and retention rings and just the worn key ... to secure the shaft together to be a temporary measure only. You know it’s going to shear at the worst possible moment! Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet CC 27 MkIII From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 7:46 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question You can always put a retention ring (http://www.pyiinc.com/index.php?section=src ) on the inside (between the coupling and the packing gland). Much better than the zinc. Marek From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Brad Crawford via CnC-List Sent: June-05-15 14:48 To: 'Brent Driedger'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Brad Crawford Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question Yes I have the same feelings. I also have zincs on the shaft in front of the strut, I guess it eases the feeling of losing the shaft, provided the zinc stays put? Thanks, Brad From: Brent Driedger [mailto:bren...@highspeedcrow.ca] Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 11:35 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Brad Crawford Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question I have been dealing with exactly that issue since I bought my boat 7 years ago. It hasn't been an issue and as a backup I have a zinc anode on the shaft about 3/8 from the packing nut just in case it lets loose. I'm sure the keyway is wearing out as a result but I haven't noticed any increase in play. It's just on my mind as one of those not quite right things Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Brad Crawford via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I recently had my transmission out for a rebuild and upon putting it back in and the boat back together discovered that the propeller shaft coupling is a little loose on the shaft, maybe 1/8” of rotational movement on the shaft, like possibly the keyway is worn?. Have tried tightening the set screws, which secures the coupling but eventually they work loose and again there is movement of the coupling on the shaft. It’s been recommended that I have the boat hauled, the coupling removed, the shaft pulled out and provided the shaft is ok, a new coupling fitted and faced to the shaft, and then reinstalled for a final alignment. My question to the group is has anyone else been running around with a loose coupling and is this something I should be immediately concerned about? Thanks, Brad Crawford CnC 36 Seattle ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question
running with a loose key in the coupler, or even bolts that lost their wire, can cause coupler or shaft wear and lead to expensive coupler replacement. Don't ask me how I know Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Lake St. Croix, Hudson WI and to be named 1994 Tartan 31 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You can always put a retention ring ( http://www.pyiinc.com/index.php?section=src ) on the inside (between the coupling and the packing gland). Much better than the zinc. Marek *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Brad Crawford via CnC-List *Sent:* June-05-15 14:48 *To:* 'Brent Driedger'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Brad Crawford *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question Yes I have the same feelings. I also have zincs on the shaft in front of the strut, I guess it eases the feeling of losing the shaft, provided the zinc stays put? Thanks, Brad *From:* Brent Driedger [mailto:bren...@highspeedcrow.ca bren...@highspeedcrow.ca] *Sent:* Friday, June 5, 2015 11:35 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Brad Crawford *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question I have been dealing with exactly that issue since I bought my boat 7 years ago. It hasn't been an issue and as a backup I have a zinc anode on the shaft about 3/8 from the packing nut just in case it lets loose. I'm sure the keyway is wearing out as a result but I haven't noticed any increase in play. It's just on my mind as one of those not quite right things Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Brad Crawford via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I recently had my transmission out for a rebuild and upon putting it back in and the boat back together discovered that the propeller shaft coupling is a little loose on the shaft, maybe 1/8” of rotational movement on the shaft, like possibly the keyway is worn?. Have tried tightening the set screws, which secures the coupling but eventually they work loose and again there is movement of the coupling on the shaft. It’s been recommended that I have the boat hauled, the coupling removed, the shaft pulled out and provided the shaft is ok, a new coupling fitted and faced to the shaft, and then reinstalled for a final alignment. My question to the group is has anyone else been running around with a loose coupling and is this something I should be immediately concerned about? Thanks, Brad Crawford CnC 36 Seattle ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question
Funny, but it works the other way around. PYI collar is $25 (their website) and similar collar from McMaster-Carr is $32 (both for 1 shaft). I am not surprised that they cost as much as this is a solid piece of 316 SS. Btw. I don't have any interest in the company (other than I have the shaft seal and the collar installed). Marek 1994 C270 Legato Ottawa From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Peter Fell via CnC-List Sent: June-06-15 12:43 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Peter Fell Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question Well looks like PSS finally listened to Compass Marine: http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/pss_shaft_seal The point being I expect the shaft collar he uses is orders of magnitude cheaper than the one PSS supplies. I would consider relying on zincs and retention rings and just the worn key ... to secure the shaft together to be a temporary measure only. You know it’s going to shear at the worst possible moment! Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet CC 27 MkIII From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 7:46 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question You can always put a retention ring (http://www.pyiinc.com/index.php?section=src ) on the inside (between the coupling and the packing gland). Much better than the zinc. Marek From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Brad Crawford via CnC-List Sent: June-05-15 14:48 To: 'Brent Driedger'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Brad Crawford Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question Yes I have the same feelings. I also have zincs on the shaft in front of the strut, I guess it eases the feeling of losing the shaft, provided the zinc stays put? Thanks, Brad From: Brent Driedger [mailto:bren...@highspeedcrow.ca] Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 11:35 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Brad Crawford Subject: Re: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question I have been dealing with exactly that issue since I bought my boat 7 years ago. It hasn't been an issue and as a backup I have a zinc anode on the shaft about 3/8 from the packing nut just in case it lets loose. I'm sure the keyway is wearing out as a result but I haven't noticed any increase in play. It's just on my mind as one of those not quite right things Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Brad Crawford via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I recently had my transmission out for a rebuild and upon putting it back in and the boat back together discovered that the propeller shaft coupling is a little loose on the shaft, maybe 1/8” of rotational movement on the shaft, like possibly the keyway is worn?. Have tried tightening the set screws, which secures the coupling but eventually they work loose and again there is movement of the coupling on the shaft. It’s been recommended that I have the boat hauled, the coupling removed, the shaft pulled out and provided the shaft is ok, a new coupling fitted and faced to the shaft, and then reinstalled for a final alignment. My question to the group is has anyone else been running around with a loose coupling and is this something I should be immediately concerned about? Thanks, Brad Crawford CnC 36 Seattle ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC30-1 climb to top of mast?
Jay, I regularly do mast work. Your 30 shouldn't be any problem. Just be safe. Use a good chair. Use a bowline knot. Don't use a snap shackle. Use a second halyard as a safety. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Kirkpatrick, Jay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'd like to replace my windex with a new one, but don't want to drop the mast to do it. On larger boats we send someone up the mast to retrieve halyards etc, but has anyone done this on a 30-1? I wonder if 200lbs at the top to install a new windex is too much of a risk of damage or injury. Has anyone lived to tell the story? Cheers, Jay ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List CC30-1 climb to top of mast?
I'd like to replace my windex with a new one, but don't want to drop the mast to do it. On larger boats we send someone up the mast to retrieve halyards etc, but has anyone done this on a 30-1? I wonder if 200lbs at the top to install a new windex is too much of a risk of damage or injury. Has anyone lived to tell the story? Cheers, Jay ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC30-1 climb to top of mast?
Jay, I'm around 225 and just did it on my CC34. And years ago was the go-to guy on a J30. Scary that on that crew, I was both youngest and lightest... Yikes. Not a bad ride, just have a good chair, and good guys in the winch. Good luck, Chuck B CC34 Elusive Somerset, MA Sent from my iPad On Jun 6, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Kirkpatrick, Jay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'd like to replace my windex with a new one, but don't want to drop the mast to do it. On larger boats we send someone up the mast to retrieve halyards etc, but has anyone done this on a 30-1? I wonder if 200lbs at the top to install a new windex is too much of a risk of damage or injury. Has anyone lived to tell the story? Cheers, Jay ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC30-1 climb to top of mast?
You won't have a problem. Remember how much the keel weighs. 4000#? I've seen guys bosun chair up the mast of a J24. Stop over thinking it. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Jay via CnC-List Kirkpatrick cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jay Kirkpatrick jkirkpatr...@purolator.com Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 8:57:22 PM Subject: Stus-List CC30-1 climb to top of mast? I'd like to replace my windex with a new one, but don't want to drop the mast to do it. On larger boats we send someone up the mast to retrieve halyards etc, but has anyone done this on a 30-1? I wonder if 200lbs at the top to install a new windex is too much of a risk of damage or injury. Has anyone lived to tell the story? Cheers, Jay ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 37 and 34 +/XL/R cabin-side plates
I have the stainless steel ones but was not able to learn where they came from. They were on the boat when I bought it. I did ask one of the former owners but they were put on after his time. I suspect someone with a CNC mill in a machine shop made them. Ken H. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3LFGI2UZmQc/U3RTvtiSGpI/OUA/9kV0Aeja3Ok/w1407-h1055-n-o/Summer%2B2010%2B538.jpg On 6 June 2015 at 23:23, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, I think this was covered a couple of years ago, but can't find it. I'm looking to replace the broken plates that are on the sides of the cabin. They are long, rectangular, with curved corners and they had a raised CC 37+ on it. I seem to remember someone getting a steel version somewhere. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC30-1 climb to top of mast?
Bowlines don't work so good with wire, but I have followed the same procedure otherwise. Bought an ascender based Mast Climber at a boat show last year, but have not tried it out yet. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Mike Casey via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Mike Casey Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 21:39 Subject: Re: Stus-List CC30-1 climb to top of mast? You use two halyards; you go up on the main; the jib is used as a spare. Don't use the clips; tie bowlines. On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Jay, I'm around 225 and just did it on my CC34. And years ago was the go-to guy on a J30. Scary that on that crew, I was both youngest and lightest... Yikes. Not a bad ride, just have a good chair, and good guys in the winch. Good luck, Chuck B CC34 Elusive Somerset, MA Sent from my iPad On Jun 6, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Kirkpatrick, Jay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'd like to replace my windex with a new one, but don't want to drop the mast to do it. On larger boats we send someone up the mast to retrieve halyards etc, but has anyone done this on a 30-1? I wonder if 200lbs at the top to install a new windex is too much of a risk of damage or injury. Has anyone lived to tell the story? Cheers, Jay ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 37 and 34 +/XL/R cabin-side plates
I too am looking for these metal plaques. I've been canvasing the internet for a manufacture. Unfortunately it looks like cheap and easy are out of the question. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Jun 6, 2015 10:23 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, I think this was covered a couple of years ago, but can't find it. I'm looking to replace the broken plates that are on the sides of the cabin. They are long, rectangular, with curved corners and they had a raised CC 37+ on it. I seem to remember someone getting a steel version somewhere. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC30-1 climb to top of mast?
You use two halyards; you go up on the main; the jib is used as a spare. Don't use the clips; tie bowlines. On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Jay, I'm around 225 and just did it on my CC34. And years ago was the go-to guy on a J30. Scary that on that crew, I was both youngest and lightest... Yikes. Not a bad ride, just have a good chair, and good guys in the winch. Good luck, Chuck B CC34 Elusive Somerset, MA Sent from my iPad On Jun 6, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Kirkpatrick, Jay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'd like to replace my windex with a new one, but don't want to drop the mast to do it. On larger boats we send someone up the mast to retrieve halyards etc, but has anyone done this on a 30-1? I wonder if 200lbs at the top to install a new windex is too much of a risk of damage or injury. Has anyone lived to tell the story? Cheers, Jay ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List 37 and 34 +/XL/R cabin-side plates
Listers, I think this was covered a couple of years ago, but can't find it. I'm looking to replace the broken plates that are on the sides of the cabin. They are long, rectangular, with curved corners and they had a raised CC 37+ on it. I seem to remember someone getting a steel version somewhere. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC30-1 climb to top of mast?
Jay — I went up the mast of my 30-1 several times; both by being hoisted and by myself with my ATN Top-Climber. No issues; those masts are plenty sturdy. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 6, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Kirkpatrick, Jay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'd like to replace my windex with a new one, but don't want to drop the mast to do it. On larger boats we send someone up the mast to retrieve halyards etc, but has anyone done this on a 30-1? I wonder if 200lbs at the top to install a new windex is too much of a risk of damage or injury. Has anyone lived to tell the story? Cheers, Jay ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
